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  • L Luis Alonso Ramos

    leckey wrote:

    I don't think they can control their kids anywhere

    Two-year old kids are usually dificult to control at any place where they must be quiet (cinema, church), that is not just for Mexicans.

    leckey wrote:

    it was the 'Mexican bravado' of the guy that made him say such a statement to me

    I don't think it comes from being Mexican. I am also, and in that situation, if you told me something about my kid being quiet, I would be terribly ashamed and my reply would have been "I am real sorry, it won't happen again." And if it kept happening I would have left with my kid. That politeness (or rudeness) does not come with the nationality, but from the education you get at home.

    leckey wrote:

    I DO care about immigrants straining American resources and then having the gall to tell me basically to shut up

    Without wanting to start a debate here, how do you know they were illegal? If they are not, they have basically the same rights to American resources as you do. My conclusion here, them being rude on you comes from their own personality and education, and in no way is related to being Mexican. Whether you agree or not with immigration is another thing, but you cannot dislike Mexicans because one was rude to you.

    Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix Chihuahua, Mexico

    Not much here: My CP Blog!

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    Jerry Hammond
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    Hey, Luis, you look French! (snicker) Happy "Cynco Da Mayo"

    "We are all repositories for genetically-encoded information that we're all spreading back and forth amongst each other, all the time. We're just lousy with information." - Neal Stephenson

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      My only positive experience is a few weeks ago when a Mexican immigrant helped me to load top soil bags into the trunk of my car. In this area, they are incredibily far from polite.

      __________________ Bob is my homeboy.

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      Jerry Hammond
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      Are you a troll?

      "We are all repositories for genetically-encoded information that we're all spreading back and forth amongst each other, all the time. We're just lousy with information." - Neal Stephenson

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        I have a high respect for the Lakota and Dakota Sioux of South Dakota, even if they get a bad rap. I took a political science class in college where we discussed the Native Americans and I pointed out that I had a friend with the last name of 'Bad Yellow Hair' and how if caused her problems just because of the pre-concieved notions of Native Americans. I really don't want to blanket any ethnic group being myself part Native American, Jewish, (yeah I know, how can I be Jewish and Native American?) Basque and a few other minority groups. But my introduction to the Mexican immigrant in this area (I truly hope their attitude elsewhere is different) has lead me to my negative reactions. Anyhow, my post was not to put all Mexicans, or all immigrants into one category, but to show the behavior in this particular region. BTW, years ago I had a Mexican penpal that we connected through a sticker magazine because she learned English through the books of Laura Ingalls Wilder who lived in my hometown. I had a very positive look towards Mexicans because of her.

        __________________ Bob is my homeboy.

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        Jerry Hammond
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        leckey wrote:

        (yeah I know, how can I be Jewish and Native American?)

        First, we have to give you a lesson on cultural tolerance, and now we have to give you a lesson on reproductive biology?!

        "We are all repositories for genetically-encoded information that we're all spreading back and forth amongst each other, all the time. We're just lousy with information." - Neal Stephenson

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        • J Jerry Hammond

          Are you a troll?

          "We are all repositories for genetically-encoded information that we're all spreading back and forth amongst each other, all the time. We're just lousy with information." - Neal Stephenson

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          Rajesh R Subramanian
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          I think she aspires to be one and will succeed in her endeavor, if she continues this way. :-D BTW, if I can get some of what she was smoking this past evening, I'd love that.

          [How not to ask a question]

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          • L leckey 0

            ...in the theater without having to scold someone for their behavior. Tonight we went to Spiderman 3. Behind us sat a group of of Mexican immigrants and one had her BABY in her lap. I'm guessing less than 2 years old. He couldn't keep quiet and she left for a bit with him. They came back and gave the kid a large ring of keys to enthrall him. Problem is that said keys were very loud and annoying. So I turned around and said, "Please either get your child to quit making noise or take him outside." Then her macho boyfriend/husband moves out of his seat and tells ME that "If you don't like it you can leave." My husband just about exploded. We went and got a manager and they handled us very professionally. But I loved going back into the theater with the manager and pointing to the group and said, "There they are." I'm not sure what happened next because we left. Since moving to this area my view of Mexican immigrants is very sour, and this just solidifies my negative opinion of them. We had another incident in another theater awhile ago with a guy who would not turn off his cell phone. I left the theater to get someone, he followed me out, said he turned it off and said some nasty words before going back in. I didn't tell my husband until we left because I knew it would not be pretty. Anyhow, it seems like here no one has respect for others in the movie theaters and treat the place like their own living room. I think we're just going to rent from now on.

            __________________ Bob is my homeboy.

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            Michael Dunn
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            I think you'll enjoy this cartoon :) Strong Bad Email: the movies[^]

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            • L leckey 0

              ...in the theater without having to scold someone for their behavior. Tonight we went to Spiderman 3. Behind us sat a group of of Mexican immigrants and one had her BABY in her lap. I'm guessing less than 2 years old. He couldn't keep quiet and she left for a bit with him. They came back and gave the kid a large ring of keys to enthrall him. Problem is that said keys were very loud and annoying. So I turned around and said, "Please either get your child to quit making noise or take him outside." Then her macho boyfriend/husband moves out of his seat and tells ME that "If you don't like it you can leave." My husband just about exploded. We went and got a manager and they handled us very professionally. But I loved going back into the theater with the manager and pointing to the group and said, "There they are." I'm not sure what happened next because we left. Since moving to this area my view of Mexican immigrants is very sour, and this just solidifies my negative opinion of them. We had another incident in another theater awhile ago with a guy who would not turn off his cell phone. I left the theater to get someone, he followed me out, said he turned it off and said some nasty words before going back in. I didn't tell my husband until we left because I knew it would not be pretty. Anyhow, it seems like here no one has respect for others in the movie theaters and treat the place like their own living room. I think we're just going to rent from now on.

              __________________ Bob is my homeboy.

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              Stan Shannon
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              My own encounters with hispanics have been almost universally negative. Frankly, contrary to most of the responses here to your post, I am certain that in most encounters the people who need a lecture in racial tolerance are the Mexicans themselves.

              Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                Uh, actually I am part Native American (Iriquois) so....nah nah nah nah! :-D

                __________________ Bob is my homeboy.

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                Smith
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                leckey wrote:

                Uh, actually I am part Native American (Iriquois) so....nah nah nah nah!

                Dont keep tracing back to the past! You'll end up finding yourself a chimp. This is earth. People are of types of here. Sane and Insane. It's got nothing to do with the nationality or nativity. If you are not able to grasp this, I'm sure you belong to type-II.

                :beer:

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                • S Stan Shannon

                  My own encounters with hispanics have been almost universally negative. Frankly, contrary to most of the responses here to your post, I am certain that in most encounters the people who need a lecture in racial tolerance are the Mexicans themselves.

                  Modern liberalism has never achieved anything other than giving Secularists something to feel morally superior about

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                  Smith
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                  The thread has blasted with enough sound that it's has woken up Stan from the SoapBox. :laugh:

                  :beer:

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                  • J Jerry Hammond

                    Are you a troll?

                    "We are all repositories for genetically-encoded information that we're all spreading back and forth amongst each other, all the time. We're just lousy with information." - Neal Stephenson

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                    Smith
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                    Yeah, and a bit idiotic too.

                    :beer:

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                    • L leckey 0

                      ...in the theater without having to scold someone for their behavior. Tonight we went to Spiderman 3. Behind us sat a group of of Mexican immigrants and one had her BABY in her lap. I'm guessing less than 2 years old. He couldn't keep quiet and she left for a bit with him. They came back and gave the kid a large ring of keys to enthrall him. Problem is that said keys were very loud and annoying. So I turned around and said, "Please either get your child to quit making noise or take him outside." Then her macho boyfriend/husband moves out of his seat and tells ME that "If you don't like it you can leave." My husband just about exploded. We went and got a manager and they handled us very professionally. But I loved going back into the theater with the manager and pointing to the group and said, "There they are." I'm not sure what happened next because we left. Since moving to this area my view of Mexican immigrants is very sour, and this just solidifies my negative opinion of them. We had another incident in another theater awhile ago with a guy who would not turn off his cell phone. I left the theater to get someone, he followed me out, said he turned it off and said some nasty words before going back in. I didn't tell my husband until we left because I knew it would not be pretty. Anyhow, it seems like here no one has respect for others in the movie theaters and treat the place like their own living room. I think we're just going to rent from now on.

                      __________________ Bob is my homeboy.

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                      Eytukan
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                      leckey wrote:

                      "Please either get your child to quit making noise or take him outside."

                      You can't be more rude than this. This in a way equals "Get your son out of this place or put something in his mouth". That's why he's responded like that. If you find someone annoying, first you need to take up a softer route to handle them. You need some patience. If they continue to do the same even after your request, you can blast off. That's natural. [btw, what's the need here to say that he was a mexican?:~ ]


                      Press: 1500 to 2,200 messages in just 6 days? How's that possible sir? **Dr.Brad :**Well,I just replied to everything Graus did and then argued with Negus for a bit.

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                        leckey wrote:

                        "Please either get your child to quit making noise or take him outside."

                        You can't be more rude than this. This in a way equals "Get your son out of this place or put something in his mouth". That's why he's responded like that. If you find someone annoying, first you need to take up a softer route to handle them. You need some patience. If they continue to do the same even after your request, you can blast off. That's natural. [btw, what's the need here to say that he was a mexican?:~ ]


                        Press: 1500 to 2,200 messages in just 6 days? How's that possible sir? **Dr.Brad :**Well,I just replied to everything Graus did and then argued with Negus for a bit.

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                        VuNic wrote:

                        You can't be more rude than this.

                        I agree.

                        VuNic wrote:

                        what's the need here to say that he was a mexican?

                        I think it was pointless to add that detail in the original post. I've seen people be inconsiderate in movie theaters where ethnic background had nothing to do with it at all.

                        VuNic wrote:

                        If they continue to do the same even after your request, you can blast off.

                        You mean rip a fart and clear out half the movie theater :laugh:

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                        • L leckey 0

                          Uh, actually I am part Native American (Iriquois) so....nah nah nah nah! :-D

                          __________________ Bob is my homeboy.

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                          Member 96
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                          Um..not to burst your bubble or anything but "native" north americans are from northern asia and we're all from africa if you go back far enough.


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                          • P Paul Conrad

                            VuNic wrote:

                            You can't be more rude than this.

                            I agree.

                            VuNic wrote:

                            what's the need here to say that he was a mexican?

                            I think it was pointless to add that detail in the original post. I've seen people be inconsiderate in movie theaters where ethnic background had nothing to do with it at all.

                            VuNic wrote:

                            If they continue to do the same even after your request, you can blast off.

                            You mean rip a fart and clear out half the movie theater :laugh:

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                            Eytukan
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                            Paul Conrad wrote:

                            You mean rip a fart and clear out half the movie theater

                            Oh dude, that'd be devastating. Not to touch the Nuke button unless your life is at stake.:laugh:


                            Press: 1500 to 2,200 messages in just 6 days? How's that possible sir? **Dr.Brad :**Well,I just replied to everything Graus did and then argued with Negus for a bit.

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                            • C Christopher Duncan

                              It's worth noting that in America, everyone here is from somewhere else. ;)

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                              Nish Nishant
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                              Christopher Duncan wrote:

                              It's worth noting that in America, everyone here is from somewhere else.

                              Not Leckey - she was genetically moulded from American soil and just started existing one day spontaneously :-)

                              Regards, Nish


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                              • L Luis Alonso Ramos

                                leckey wrote:

                                I don't think they can control their kids anywhere

                                Two-year old kids are usually dificult to control at any place where they must be quiet (cinema, church), that is not just for Mexicans.

                                leckey wrote:

                                it was the 'Mexican bravado' of the guy that made him say such a statement to me

                                I don't think it comes from being Mexican. I am also, and in that situation, if you told me something about my kid being quiet, I would be terribly ashamed and my reply would have been "I am real sorry, it won't happen again." And if it kept happening I would have left with my kid. That politeness (or rudeness) does not come with the nationality, but from the education you get at home.

                                leckey wrote:

                                I DO care about immigrants straining American resources and then having the gall to tell me basically to shut up

                                Without wanting to start a debate here, how do you know they were illegal? If they are not, they have basically the same rights to American resources as you do. My conclusion here, them being rude on you comes from their own personality and education, and in no way is related to being Mexican. Whether you agree or not with immigration is another thing, but you cannot dislike Mexicans because one was rude to you.

                                Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix Chihuahua, Mexico

                                Not much here: My CP Blog!

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                                Nish Nishant
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                                Luis Alonso Ramos wrote:

                                Without wanting to start a debate here, how do you know they were illegal?

                                I don't think she meant that they were illegal. To me it looks as if she hates all immigrants - including legal ones :-)

                                Regards, Nish


                                Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                                My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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                                  Luis Alonso Ramos wrote:

                                  Without wanting to start a debate here, how do you know they were illegal?

                                  I don't think she meant that they were illegal. To me it looks as if she hates all immigrants - including legal ones :-)

                                  Regards, Nish


                                  Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
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                                  leckey 0
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                                  I have absolutely no problem with legal immigrants. The US allows over 2 million legal immigrants a year. If one does it legally, I have no problem.

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                                  • E Eytukan

                                    Paul Conrad wrote:

                                    You mean rip a fart and clear out half the movie theater

                                    Oh dude, that'd be devastating. Not to touch the Nuke button unless your life is at stake.:laugh:


                                    Press: 1500 to 2,200 messages in just 6 days? How's that possible sir? **Dr.Brad :**Well,I just replied to everything Graus did and then argued with Negus for a bit.

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                                    Paul Conrad
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                                    VuNic wrote:

                                    Oh dude, that'd be devastating. Not to touch the Nuke button unless your life is at stake.:laugh:

                                    That's what gas masks are for :->

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                                    • E Eytukan

                                      leckey wrote:

                                      "Please either get your child to quit making noise or take him outside."

                                      You can't be more rude than this. This in a way equals "Get your son out of this place or put something in his mouth". That's why he's responded like that. If you find someone annoying, first you need to take up a softer route to handle them. You need some patience. If they continue to do the same even after your request, you can blast off. That's natural. [btw, what's the need here to say that he was a mexican?:~ ]


                                      Press: 1500 to 2,200 messages in just 6 days? How's that possible sir? **Dr.Brad :**Well,I just replied to everything Graus did and then argued with Negus for a bit.

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                                      Brady Kelly
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                                      I must disagree there. The first, polite, request is impilcit in being inside a movie theatre. People should not have to ask you this at all, and when they have to ask, they impolite party already has continued with the same undesirable behaviour.

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                                        VuNic wrote:

                                        Oh dude, that'd be devastating. Not to touch the Nuke button unless your life is at stake.:laugh:

                                        That's what gas masks are for :->

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                                        Eytukan
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                                        Hey that's a kinda WMD! It can tear off the mass's masks! :laugh: ..OMG! Actually we've been keeping Lecky as the subject here! :omg: if she see these messages, she'd *blast* us off. :laugh: :laugh:


                                        Press: 1500 to 2,200 messages in just 6 days? How's that possible sir? **Dr.Brad :**Well,I just replied to everything Graus did and then argued with Negus for a bit.

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                                        • B Brady Kelly

                                          I must disagree there. The first, polite, request is impilcit in being inside a movie theatre. People should not have to ask you this at all, and when they have to ask, they impolite party already has continued with the same undesirable behaviour.

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                                          Eytukan
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                                          To some extent it's true but to a great extent it's false. Everthing is dependent on the degree. The degree one could stand to another's annoyance, and the degree a person really annoys the other. I think lecky loses nerve very soon. She had mentioned the mexcian was behind her. Why people from both the sides didn't say any thing to them? Why she broke first? So to a great extent it's depenedent on the patience. The annoyance even could've been very little but the still problem brusts, if the neighbour(Leckey) is very Intolerant. But I also agree many people lack etiquette in common place.:sigh:


                                          Press: 1500 to 2,200 messages in just 6 days? How's that possible sir? **Dr.Brad :**Well,I just replied to everything Graus did and then argued with Negus for a bit.

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