How many languages do you use, and do you mess them up?
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Rohde wrote:
although Borland (or CodeGear as the developer tools section has been renamed as) seems to be a non-player these days.
No Anders, no fun :)
"Throughout human history, we have been dependent on machines to survive. Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony. " - Morpheus "Real men use mspaint for writing code and notepad for designing graphics." - Anna-Jayne Metcalfe
I don't know how big an impact Anders leaving had back then, but it did result in some of their other big profiles leaving and then it all went downhill. Meanwhile the mothership (Borland) pretty much forgot their developer section and focused on the application life cycle market (or whatever it's called) instead resulting in a "Borland who?"-attitude among developers. Too bad since competition for Microsoft in their own market was good. Nowadays CodeGear still releases a .NET IDE, but they are always a version behind Microsoft; why anyone would opt for that is beyond me (save for companies already in the Borland CodeGear camp).
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
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Your brain should carry a "Heavy Load" sticker! :-D
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
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How many languages/technologies do you use at work? I use C# .NET/ASP.NET with some JavaScript and MySQL as a database and hence some SQL. Since it's web dev I also need to fudge some CSS and (X)HTML around. Besides that WPF, Silverlight and WCF are on the horizon and seems interesting. At my spare time I sometimes do some C++/Qt......and it's all just too much. [shouting]I wanna be a postman[/shouting]. So what about you guys - also getting information overload? (yes, I'm mainly kidding - I love programming, but the pace is really fast!)
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
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It's not that bad, C#, SQL, (X)HTML, CSS (oh and XSLT) in one project. ASP.NET & SQL in another. Then JavaScript, C, (X)HTML and CSS in another.
Ed.Poore wrote:
Then JavaScript, C, (X)HTML and CSS in another.
Now that's not a combination I hear about everyday (I'm referring to the C part as you probably have guessed).
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
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Ed.Poore wrote:
Then JavaScript, C, (X)HTML and CSS in another.
Now that's not a combination I hear about everyday (I'm referring to the C part as you probably have guessed).
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
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Yeah, I like these two. Even though I'm more productive with C# I just really like C++. It's like the Ferrari among BMWs - it requie a lot work but you feel really cool when it works....ok sucky analogy but I'm sure you get my meaning.
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
-Atlas Shrugged, Ayn RandRohde wrote:
I just really like C++
C++ is OK when you're writing it yourself. It's a pain when you have to maintain someone else's mess. Yes, I know maintenance is a pain in general but it's a lot worse in C++.
Kevin
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How many languages/technologies do you use at work? I use C# .NET/ASP.NET with some JavaScript and MySQL as a database and hence some SQL. Since it's web dev I also need to fudge some CSS and (X)HTML around. Besides that WPF, Silverlight and WCF are on the horizon and seems interesting. At my spare time I sometimes do some C++/Qt......and it's all just too much. [shouting]I wanna be a postman[/shouting]. So what about you guys - also getting information overload? (yes, I'm mainly kidding - I love programming, but the pace is really fast!)
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
-Atlas Shrugged, Ayn RandC++, C#, VB, Javascript, T-SQL are the main ones I use, and yeah I mess them up when I flip back and forth, things like semi-colons and {} in VB. I find it's not necessarily the languages that are overwhelming, it's all the different frameworks that you have to learn and keep track of. Makes my head spin!
- S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on!
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Your brain should carry a "Heavy Load" sticker! :-D
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
-Atlas Shrugged, Ayn RandOh forgot the second part of your question, so far I haven't got them mixed up. I think it's down to the fact I'm largely doing completely different things in them so can change mindsets. Sometimes I wish I had one feature another doesn't have but apart from that don't get messed up.
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How many languages/technologies do you use at work? I use C# .NET/ASP.NET with some JavaScript and MySQL as a database and hence some SQL. Since it's web dev I also need to fudge some CSS and (X)HTML around. Besides that WPF, Silverlight and WCF are on the horizon and seems interesting. At my spare time I sometimes do some C++/Qt......and it's all just too much. [shouting]I wanna be a postman[/shouting]. So what about you guys - also getting information overload? (yes, I'm mainly kidding - I love programming, but the pace is really fast!)
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
-Atlas Shrugged, Ayn RandToo few. I'm just getting exposure to only Javascript, and normally exclusively use C#. I can still keep my head above water in VB6, without drugs, well enough. I've always had an interest in other languages, and suspect I have encountered too many, paralysing my motivation to actually learn and work with any of all the other languages currently on show.
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dnh wrote:
[...] but very little CSS/HTML - I am more focused on data and logic, there are (fortunately) others for presentation.
I hear you. Unfortunately I'm the sole developer on a web app at the moment. Luckily we got the design from outside but I still have to nudge it a bit. God, CSS and XHTML is not my definition of fun: I'd much rate write a business and data layer (and fortunately that is what I do most of the time).
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
-Atlas Shrugged, Ayn RandParameterise your UI elements and write a data and business layer to manage them.
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what about us poor saps that stil have to play around with assembly or other embedded languages? I have been known to dabble with .NET in the morning and assembly/C for embedded in the afternoon.... some VB in between:)
Yeah, I'll mess around with assembler, VB, maybe even C++ on any given day.
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
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How many languages/technologies do you use at work? I use C# .NET/ASP.NET with some JavaScript and MySQL as a database and hence some SQL. Since it's web dev I also need to fudge some CSS and (X)HTML around. Besides that WPF, Silverlight and WCF are on the horizon and seems interesting. At my spare time I sometimes do some C++/Qt......and it's all just too much. [shouting]I wanna be a postman[/shouting]. So what about you guys - also getting information overload? (yes, I'm mainly kidding - I love programming, but the pace is really fast!)
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
-Atlas Shrugged, Ayn RandC#
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C#, javascript, jsp, actionscript, css :sigh:
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Hmmm C#, VB.NET, VB6, C++, javascript, python and learning WPF;)
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How many languages/technologies do you use at work? I use C# .NET/ASP.NET with some JavaScript and MySQL as a database and hence some SQL. Since it's web dev I also need to fudge some CSS and (X)HTML around. Besides that WPF, Silverlight and WCF are on the horizon and seems interesting. At my spare time I sometimes do some C++/Qt......and it's all just too much. [shouting]I wanna be a postman[/shouting]. So what about you guys - also getting information overload? (yes, I'm mainly kidding - I love programming, but the pace is really fast!)
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
-Atlas Shrugged, Ayn RandC++, Ada and some assembly language at work Haskell, some shell scripting, bit of Ruby at home. They're all sufficiently different that I don't really get confused between them.
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C++, Ada and some assembly language at work Haskell, some shell scripting, bit of Ruby at home. They're all sufficiently different that I don't really get confused between them.
Stuart Dootson wrote:
C++, Ada and some assembly language at work
Ada at work you say; do you work in the defense or aviation industry?
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
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Why the " X| "? Was Delphi awful? I've heard some good praises on it's native Win32 abilities, although Borland (or CodeGear as the developer tools section has been renamed as) seems to be a non-player these days.
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
-Atlas Shrugged, Ayn Rand -
How many languages/technologies do you use at work? I use C# .NET/ASP.NET with some JavaScript and MySQL as a database and hence some SQL. Since it's web dev I also need to fudge some CSS and (X)HTML around. Besides that WPF, Silverlight and WCF are on the horizon and seems interesting. At my spare time I sometimes do some C++/Qt......and it's all just too much. [shouting]I wanna be a postman[/shouting]. So what about you guys - also getting information overload? (yes, I'm mainly kidding - I love programming, but the pace is really fast!)
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
-Atlas Shrugged, Ayn RandMainly VB.NET but also some VB6 (going back to VB6 gets a bit confusing), more and more C# these days also which is good, TSQL and PLSQL (swapping between those two really messes me up). I can also do XHTML and CSS but i am not very artsy so whatever i do in XHTML might be technically correct but it still looks like crap.:^) Jon
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How many languages/technologies do you use at work? I use C# .NET/ASP.NET with some JavaScript and MySQL as a database and hence some SQL. Since it's web dev I also need to fudge some CSS and (X)HTML around. Besides that WPF, Silverlight and WCF are on the horizon and seems interesting. At my spare time I sometimes do some C++/Qt......and it's all just too much. [shouting]I wanna be a postman[/shouting]. So what about you guys - also getting information overload? (yes, I'm mainly kidding - I love programming, but the pace is really fast!)
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
-Atlas Shrugged, Ayn RandI use AJAX, ASP.NET, MS-SQL at work, and AJAX/PHP/MySQL at home. Even though my work is a "3-tier" shop (I'm on the user interface team), I end up at least designing the DBRL table structure and by and large, I dictate what stored procedures and views are made. I don't know what the mid-tier guys do, because either they jack up the interface design we give them, or we have to break their code in the process of making accessible user-freindly interfaces. Of course, we have project managers (think pointy-haired) that wander around aimlessly, read up on the new "buzz words" and occasionally create pathetic spreadsheets for us to track our time with.
Bart A. Edgerton www.ewebdev.net
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I use AJAX, ASP.NET, MS-SQL at work, and AJAX/PHP/MySQL at home. Even though my work is a "3-tier" shop (I'm on the user interface team), I end up at least designing the DBRL table structure and by and large, I dictate what stored procedures and views are made. I don't know what the mid-tier guys do, because either they jack up the interface design we give them, or we have to break their code in the process of making accessible user-freindly interfaces. Of course, we have project managers (think pointy-haired) that wander around aimlessly, read up on the new "buzz words" and occasionally create pathetic spreadsheets for us to track our time with.
Bart A. Edgerton www.ewebdev.net
bartedgerton wrote:
Of course, we have project managers (think pointy-haired) that wander around aimlessly, read up on the new "buzz words" and occasionally create pathetic spreadsheets for us to track our time with.
:-D:-D That made me laugh.
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
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Stuart Dootson wrote:
C++, Ada and some assembly language at work
Ada at work you say; do you work in the defense or aviation industry?
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
-Atlas Shrugged, Ayn RandYep - aerospace, safety-critical embedded control systems. I don't really do development of the embedded software any more - I develop support tools, so I don't see much Ada, as C++ is the best choice for the sort of Windows development I do (hint: not much GUI!).
