How many languages do you use, and do you mess them up?
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Your brain should carry a "Heavy Load" sticker! :-D
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
-Atlas Shrugged, Ayn RandOh forgot the second part of your question, so far I haven't got them mixed up. I think it's down to the fact I'm largely doing completely different things in them so can change mindsets. Sometimes I wish I had one feature another doesn't have but apart from that don't get messed up.
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How many languages/technologies do you use at work? I use C# .NET/ASP.NET with some JavaScript and MySQL as a database and hence some SQL. Since it's web dev I also need to fudge some CSS and (X)HTML around. Besides that WPF, Silverlight and WCF are on the horizon and seems interesting. At my spare time I sometimes do some C++/Qt......and it's all just too much. [shouting]I wanna be a postman[/shouting]. So what about you guys - also getting information overload? (yes, I'm mainly kidding - I love programming, but the pace is really fast!)
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
-Atlas Shrugged, Ayn RandToo few. I'm just getting exposure to only Javascript, and normally exclusively use C#. I can still keep my head above water in VB6, without drugs, well enough. I've always had an interest in other languages, and suspect I have encountered too many, paralysing my motivation to actually learn and work with any of all the other languages currently on show.
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dnh wrote:
[...] but very little CSS/HTML - I am more focused on data and logic, there are (fortunately) others for presentation.
I hear you. Unfortunately I'm the sole developer on a web app at the moment. Luckily we got the design from outside but I still have to nudge it a bit. God, CSS and XHTML is not my definition of fun: I'd much rate write a business and data layer (and fortunately that is what I do most of the time).
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
-Atlas Shrugged, Ayn RandParameterise your UI elements and write a data and business layer to manage them.
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what about us poor saps that stil have to play around with assembly or other embedded languages? I have been known to dabble with .NET in the morning and assembly/C for embedded in the afternoon.... some VB in between:)
Yeah, I'll mess around with assembler, VB, maybe even C++ on any given day.
BW
Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand.
Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand.
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How many languages/technologies do you use at work? I use C# .NET/ASP.NET with some JavaScript and MySQL as a database and hence some SQL. Since it's web dev I also need to fudge some CSS and (X)HTML around. Besides that WPF, Silverlight and WCF are on the horizon and seems interesting. At my spare time I sometimes do some C++/Qt......and it's all just too much. [shouting]I wanna be a postman[/shouting]. So what about you guys - also getting information overload? (yes, I'm mainly kidding - I love programming, but the pace is really fast!)
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
-Atlas Shrugged, Ayn RandC#
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C#, javascript, jsp, actionscript, css :sigh:
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Hmmm C#, VB.NET, VB6, C++, javascript, python and learning WPF;)
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How many languages/technologies do you use at work? I use C# .NET/ASP.NET with some JavaScript and MySQL as a database and hence some SQL. Since it's web dev I also need to fudge some CSS and (X)HTML around. Besides that WPF, Silverlight and WCF are on the horizon and seems interesting. At my spare time I sometimes do some C++/Qt......and it's all just too much. [shouting]I wanna be a postman[/shouting]. So what about you guys - also getting information overload? (yes, I'm mainly kidding - I love programming, but the pace is really fast!)
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
-Atlas Shrugged, Ayn RandC++, Ada and some assembly language at work Haskell, some shell scripting, bit of Ruby at home. They're all sufficiently different that I don't really get confused between them.
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C++, Ada and some assembly language at work Haskell, some shell scripting, bit of Ruby at home. They're all sufficiently different that I don't really get confused between them.
Stuart Dootson wrote:
C++, Ada and some assembly language at work
Ada at work you say; do you work in the defense or aviation industry?
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
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Why the " X| "? Was Delphi awful? I've heard some good praises on it's native Win32 abilities, although Borland (or CodeGear as the developer tools section has been renamed as) seems to be a non-player these days.
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
-Atlas Shrugged, Ayn Rand -
How many languages/technologies do you use at work? I use C# .NET/ASP.NET with some JavaScript and MySQL as a database and hence some SQL. Since it's web dev I also need to fudge some CSS and (X)HTML around. Besides that WPF, Silverlight and WCF are on the horizon and seems interesting. At my spare time I sometimes do some C++/Qt......and it's all just too much. [shouting]I wanna be a postman[/shouting]. So what about you guys - also getting information overload? (yes, I'm mainly kidding - I love programming, but the pace is really fast!)
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
-Atlas Shrugged, Ayn RandMainly VB.NET but also some VB6 (going back to VB6 gets a bit confusing), more and more C# these days also which is good, TSQL and PLSQL (swapping between those two really messes me up). I can also do XHTML and CSS but i am not very artsy so whatever i do in XHTML might be technically correct but it still looks like crap.:^) Jon
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How many languages/technologies do you use at work? I use C# .NET/ASP.NET with some JavaScript and MySQL as a database and hence some SQL. Since it's web dev I also need to fudge some CSS and (X)HTML around. Besides that WPF, Silverlight and WCF are on the horizon and seems interesting. At my spare time I sometimes do some C++/Qt......and it's all just too much. [shouting]I wanna be a postman[/shouting]. So what about you guys - also getting information overload? (yes, I'm mainly kidding - I love programming, but the pace is really fast!)
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
-Atlas Shrugged, Ayn RandI use AJAX, ASP.NET, MS-SQL at work, and AJAX/PHP/MySQL at home. Even though my work is a "3-tier" shop (I'm on the user interface team), I end up at least designing the DBRL table structure and by and large, I dictate what stored procedures and views are made. I don't know what the mid-tier guys do, because either they jack up the interface design we give them, or we have to break their code in the process of making accessible user-freindly interfaces. Of course, we have project managers (think pointy-haired) that wander around aimlessly, read up on the new "buzz words" and occasionally create pathetic spreadsheets for us to track our time with.
Bart A. Edgerton www.ewebdev.net
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I use AJAX, ASP.NET, MS-SQL at work, and AJAX/PHP/MySQL at home. Even though my work is a "3-tier" shop (I'm on the user interface team), I end up at least designing the DBRL table structure and by and large, I dictate what stored procedures and views are made. I don't know what the mid-tier guys do, because either they jack up the interface design we give them, or we have to break their code in the process of making accessible user-freindly interfaces. Of course, we have project managers (think pointy-haired) that wander around aimlessly, read up on the new "buzz words" and occasionally create pathetic spreadsheets for us to track our time with.
Bart A. Edgerton www.ewebdev.net
bartedgerton wrote:
Of course, we have project managers (think pointy-haired) that wander around aimlessly, read up on the new "buzz words" and occasionally create pathetic spreadsheets for us to track our time with.
:-D:-D That made me laugh.
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
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Stuart Dootson wrote:
C++, Ada and some assembly language at work
Ada at work you say; do you work in the defense or aviation industry?
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
-Atlas Shrugged, Ayn RandYep - aerospace, safety-critical embedded control systems. I don't really do development of the embedded software any more - I develop support tools, so I don't see much Ada, as C++ is the best choice for the sort of Windows development I do (hint: not much GUI!).
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Yep - aerospace, safety-critical embedded control systems. I don't really do development of the embedded software any more - I develop support tools, so I don't see much Ada, as C++ is the best choice for the sort of Windows development I do (hint: not much GUI!).
Is it as exciting working with such safety-critical systems as I imagine? I've always found it must be great working with software where bugs are not just unacceptable but could spell the difference between life or death....or maybe that's just my God-complex :laugh::-D
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
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Is it as exciting working with such safety-critical systems as I imagine? I've always found it must be great working with software where bugs are not just unacceptable but could spell the difference between life or death....or maybe that's just my God-complex :laugh::-D
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
-Atlas Shrugged, Ayn RandRohde wrote:
exciting
<smothers laughter> no, it's not that exciting - most of the software goes through so much verification (code review, unit testing - and not the excuse for unit testing that TDD entails! - requirements testing, system testing) that you've forgotten you wrote it by the time it gets onto an aeroplane. And I wrote some of the cool stuff on our system :-) However....it does make me feel a bit 'woo-hoo' when I think that my software's flying up on this[^]. The point is - the safety critical stuff gets developed to a very strict process - it's not just about developing software and removing as many bugs as possible - it's about demonstrating that you've done that. And making that easier is where I come in - I develop software tools to automate the software development process - I get to develop (what I think is) some really cool software!
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How many languages/technologies do you use at work? I use C# .NET/ASP.NET with some JavaScript and MySQL as a database and hence some SQL. Since it's web dev I also need to fudge some CSS and (X)HTML around. Besides that WPF, Silverlight and WCF are on the horizon and seems interesting. At my spare time I sometimes do some C++/Qt......and it's all just too much. [shouting]I wanna be a postman[/shouting]. So what about you guys - also getting information overload? (yes, I'm mainly kidding - I love programming, but the pace is really fast!)
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
-Atlas Shrugged, Ayn RandOh my. That's a loaded question. I take on everything they throw at me. So... so far this year... I've been coding in -JScript/Classic ASP -VBScript (though mainly translating to JScript) -PHP -ColdFusion (not sure why it's not more prevailant... every time I pick it up it surprises me with it's power) -XML -XHTML -Flex -JavaScript (server- and client-side) -CSS and -JSON Not much .NET lately (last 18 months) because there hasn't been much of a need and I'm happy to be rid of it. It does take a few minutes to float from one to the other. And I find myself leaving off a semi-colon, or using the wrong function (did you know VBScript's "InStr()" function does something completely different from JavaScript's "InStr()" function... that's one that trips me up all the time) occasionally. But like Trollslayer, a few years ago, I'd be knee-deep in Delphi, C++ and VB all at the same time back when we were doing CD-ROM projects. That was enough to turn your head inside out. I just consider it the price of doing business.
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How many languages/technologies do you use at work? I use C# .NET/ASP.NET with some JavaScript and MySQL as a database and hence some SQL. Since it's web dev I also need to fudge some CSS and (X)HTML around. Besides that WPF, Silverlight and WCF are on the horizon and seems interesting. At my spare time I sometimes do some C++/Qt......and it's all just too much. [shouting]I wanna be a postman[/shouting]. So what about you guys - also getting information overload? (yes, I'm mainly kidding - I love programming, but the pace is really fast!)
"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
-Atlas Shrugged, Ayn RandC#, T SQL, Javascript, (X)HTML, CSS, XML ...So whenever I get caught in a pissing contest I break out the line "Yeah, I use about a half a dozen different computer languages on any given work day, although I'm familar with about a half a dozen more." They'll inevetably ask "How in the world to you keep them straight?!" In reply I'll casually shrug and say "Eh, you get used to it." That usually gets 'em to shut up. ;)