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  • D Dario Solera

    I happen to have a degree (Information Technology Engineering) since today. Just returned from university where I discussed my final project.

    If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki

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    Daniel Vaughan
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    Congratulations Dario!


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    • D Dario Solera

      I happen to have a degree (Information Technology Engineering) since today. Just returned from university where I discussed my final project.

      If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki

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      Matthew Faithfull
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      Congrats, I hope you're lined up for a well paid and fulfilling job, perhaps even one that uses what you learned in the degree. Even more so I hope you had as much fun getting one as I did ;)

      Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.

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      • D Dario Solera

        I happen to have a degree (Information Technology Engineering) since today. Just returned from university where I discussed my final project.

        If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki

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        Sam_c
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        well done :) have you got a job lined up or are you going for further study (masters) :cool:

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        • D Dario Solera

          I happen to have a degree (Information Technology Engineering) since today. Just returned from university where I discussed my final project.

          If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki

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          Marc Clifton
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          Dario Solera wrote:

          I happen to have a degree (Information Technology Engineering) since today.

          Congrats! Now welcome to the real world, where degrees are worthless except for their appearances. ;P Marc

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            well done :) have you got a job lined up or are you going for further study (masters) :cool:

            Code Project Lounge 101 by John Cardinal

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            Dario Solera
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            sonsam wrote:

            have you got a job lined up

            Actually, I worked for months now... :-D

            If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki

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            • D Dario Solera

              Marc Clifton wrote:

              degrees are worthless except for their appearances.

              Why would I ever take a degree if not for the appearance? :-D

              If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki

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              Marc Clifton
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              Dario Solera wrote:

              Why would I ever take a degree if not for the appearance?

              :laugh: Marc

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                Dario Solera wrote:

                I happen to have a degree (Information Technology Engineering) since today.

                Congrats! Now welcome to the real world, where degrees are worthless except for their appearances. ;P Marc

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                Dario Solera
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                Marc Clifton wrote:

                degrees are worthless except for their appearances.

                Why would I ever take a degree if not for the appearance? :-D

                If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki

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                  Dario Solera wrote:

                  I happen to have a degree (Information Technology Engineering) since today.

                  Congrats! Now welcome to the real world, where degrees are worthless except for their appearances. ;P Marc

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                  Gary Wheeler
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                  From what I've seen, a degree is simply a statement that the person has had exposure to a certain minimum background. Note the word 'exposure'; it doesn't say anything about how much they gained by it. A lot of self-taught programmers (in other words, non-degreed) tend to be of the 'every problem is a nail, and I've got this nifty hammer' variety. I've worked with my share of them. Some are flexible, some not. A degree is not a guarantee of competence or ability. Neither is any amount of experience. The only proof is to get the person in place, and see what they can do.


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                  • S szukuro

                    Congratulations! I too would have gotten mine today hadn't I failed an exam last semester. Well, there's still next year...

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                    Dario Solera
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                    szukuro wrote:

                    I too would have gotten mine today hadn't I failed an exam last semester.

                    That happened to me too. Very... annoying. :)

                    If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki

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                    • R Rage

                      Congratulations Dario ! :jig: and :beer: or :java: I had some troubles with the head department of my schools, so I did not go to the ceremony when diplomas were handed out (even if I graduated with the best notes in my option and should have got some special price). It was sad to end up 20 years in school that way (even if I could not help it that these guys were morons), so enjoy the moment !

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                      Dario Solera
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                      Rage wrote:

                      I had some troubles with the head department of my schools, so I did not go to the ceremony when diplomas were handed out

                      Why? In my case, there is no a "ceremony". Easy, fast. :-D

                      If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki

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                      • D Dario Solera

                        I happen to have a degree (Information Technology Engineering) since today. Just returned from university where I discussed my final project.

                        If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki

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                        Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                        Welcome to the club! (I'm in the CS dept.) What degree did you acquire? Bachelor's, Master's, PhD?

                        -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                          From what I've seen, a degree is simply a statement that the person has had exposure to a certain minimum background. Note the word 'exposure'; it doesn't say anything about how much they gained by it. A lot of self-taught programmers (in other words, non-degreed) tend to be of the 'every problem is a nail, and I've got this nifty hammer' variety. I've worked with my share of them. Some are flexible, some not. A degree is not a guarantee of competence or ability. Neither is any amount of experience. The only proof is to get the person in place, and see what they can do.


                          Software Zen: delete this;

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                          Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                          I agree with you 99% percent. A degree shows that you have at least dedicated yourself to finish a long term task (at least 3 years, depending a little on how much minor subjects you have to study). That's a little bit more than just background. If I was hiring, I would also make sure that the person in question has had some experience with a wide variety of technologies, and not just the latest buzzwords found on MSDN's front page.

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                            Welcome to the club! (I'm in the CS dept.) What degree did you acquire? Bachelor's, Master's, PhD?

                            -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                            Dario Solera
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                            Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

                            What degree did you acquire? Bachelor's, Master's, PhD?

                            Actually, I don't know which is the "international" definition. I think it's Bachelor's (3 years, right?). Maybe you can help me. :)

                            If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki

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                            • D Dario Solera

                              sonsam wrote:

                              have you got a job lined up

                              Actually, I worked for months now... :-D

                              If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki

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                              Sam_c
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                              :-D in the money then, will you be getting a raise as you now have a degree or was that already part of your contract? if you get a raise its doubles the reasons to party :cool::cool:

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                                Rage wrote:

                                I had some troubles with the head department of my schools, so I did not go to the ceremony when diplomas were handed out

                                Why? In my case, there is no a "ceremony". Easy, fast. :-D

                                If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki

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                                Rage
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                                Dario Solera wrote:

                                Why?

                                Well, I studied both in France and Germany, and during the exchange year when I was in Germany, people from my school literally "dropped" us in Germany with no assistance. No mail to ask how things were going. Nothing during 8 months, but for getting the cash to pay the school. So I told them about how crappy the organization were, and they did not really like it.

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                                  Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

                                  What degree did you acquire? Bachelor's, Master's, PhD?

                                  Actually, I don't know which is the "international" definition. I think it's Bachelor's (3 years, right?). Maybe you can help me. :)

                                  If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki

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                                  Gary Wheeler
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                                  Dario Solera wrote:

                                  If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker

                                  :cool: sig.


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                                    :-D in the money then, will you be getting a raise as you now have a degree or was that already part of your contract? if you get a raise its doubles the reasons to party :cool::cool:

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                                    Dario Solera
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                                    sonsam wrote:

                                    in the money then, will you be getting a raise as you now have a degree or was that already part of your contract?

                                    I've never discussed about that. I might try. :-D

                                    If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki

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                                    • D Dario Solera

                                      I happen to have a degree (Information Technology Engineering) since today. Just returned from university where I discussed my final project.

                                      If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki

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                                      MatthysDT
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                                      Congrats Dario! And today happens to be beer-day! [|_|

                                      Dario Solera wrote:

                                      (Information Technology Engineering)

                                      Tell me, does this include any hardware? (Digital Electronics like microprocessors & pics etc etc)

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                                        Congrats Dario! And today happens to be beer-day! [|_|

                                        Dario Solera wrote:

                                        (Information Technology Engineering)

                                        Tell me, does this include any hardware? (Digital Electronics like microprocessors & pics etc etc)

                                        _______________________________________________________________________ http://www.readytogiveup.com/[^] "you can't forget something you never knew..." M. Du Toit

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                                        Dario Solera
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                                        evilnoodle wrote:

                                        (Digital Electronics like microprocessors & pics etc etc)

                                        Yes, in the form of analog and digital electronics, signal processing and logical (binary) networks design. I almost never touched a physical device, though...

                                        If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki

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                                        • D Dario Solera

                                          Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

                                          What degree did you acquire? Bachelor's, Master's, PhD?

                                          Actually, I don't know which is the "international" definition. I think it's Bachelor's (3 years, right?). Maybe you can help me. :)

                                          If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki

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                                          Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                          European Bachelor's are often 3 years, IIRC. American Bachelor's are 4 years if I recall correctly, due to required minor subjects. So, how does it feel to be free? :-D I got a job right before the dot com bubble burst, and got back to the university when it burst. I got hired as a teacher, and studied for my master's as a went along. Took me 2 years to finish that last fourth year. On the other hand, I got full pay, so I'm not complaining. And when I got "back out in the wild", I had a "real" job waiting for me.

                                          -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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