Degree?
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I happen to have a degree (Information Technology Engineering) since today. Just returned from university where I discussed my final project.
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki
Congrats, I hope you're lined up for a well paid and fulfilling job, perhaps even one that uses what you learned in the degree. Even more so I hope you had as much fun getting one as I did ;)
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I happen to have a degree (Information Technology Engineering) since today. Just returned from university where I discussed my final project.
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki
well done :) have you got a job lined up or are you going for further study (masters) :cool:
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I happen to have a degree (Information Technology Engineering) since today. Just returned from university where I discussed my final project.
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki
Dario Solera wrote:
I happen to have a degree (Information Technology Engineering) since today.
Congrats! Now welcome to the real world, where degrees are worthless except for their appearances. ;P Marc
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well done :) have you got a job lined up or are you going for further study (masters) :cool:
sonsam wrote:
have you got a job lined up
Actually, I worked for months now... :-D
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki
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Marc Clifton wrote:
degrees are worthless except for their appearances.
Why would I ever take a degree if not for the appearance? :-D
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki
Dario Solera wrote:
Why would I ever take a degree if not for the appearance?
:laugh: Marc
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Dario Solera wrote:
I happen to have a degree (Information Technology Engineering) since today.
Congrats! Now welcome to the real world, where degrees are worthless except for their appearances. ;P Marc
Marc Clifton wrote:
degrees are worthless except for their appearances.
Why would I ever take a degree if not for the appearance? :-D
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki
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Dario Solera wrote:
I happen to have a degree (Information Technology Engineering) since today.
Congrats! Now welcome to the real world, where degrees are worthless except for their appearances. ;P Marc
From what I've seen, a degree is simply a statement that the person has had exposure to a certain minimum background. Note the word 'exposure'; it doesn't say anything about how much they gained by it. A lot of self-taught programmers (in other words, non-degreed) tend to be of the 'every problem is a nail, and I've got this nifty hammer' variety. I've worked with my share of them. Some are flexible, some not. A degree is not a guarantee of competence or ability. Neither is any amount of experience. The only proof is to get the person in place, and see what they can do.
Software Zen:
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Congratulations! I too would have gotten mine today hadn't I failed an exam last semester. Well, there's still next year...
szukuro wrote:
I too would have gotten mine today hadn't I failed an exam last semester.
That happened to me too. Very... annoying. :)
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki
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Congratulations Dario ! :jig: and :beer: or :java: I had some troubles with the head department of my schools, so I did not go to the ceremony when diplomas were handed out (even if I graduated with the best notes in my option and should have got some special price). It was sad to end up 20 years in school that way (even if I could not help it that these guys were morons), so enjoy the moment !
Don't follow any man spiritually, don't do anything that will get you in sh*t if god is real - Bradml[^]
Rage wrote:
I had some troubles with the head department of my schools, so I did not go to the ceremony when diplomas were handed out
Why? In my case, there is no a "ceremony". Easy, fast. :-D
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki
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I happen to have a degree (Information Technology Engineering) since today. Just returned from university where I discussed my final project.
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki
Welcome to the club! (I'm in the CS dept.) What degree did you acquire? Bachelor's, Master's, PhD?
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
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From what I've seen, a degree is simply a statement that the person has had exposure to a certain minimum background. Note the word 'exposure'; it doesn't say anything about how much they gained by it. A lot of self-taught programmers (in other words, non-degreed) tend to be of the 'every problem is a nail, and I've got this nifty hammer' variety. I've worked with my share of them. Some are flexible, some not. A degree is not a guarantee of competence or ability. Neither is any amount of experience. The only proof is to get the person in place, and see what they can do.
Software Zen:
delete this;I agree with you 99% percent. A degree shows that you have at least dedicated yourself to finish a long term task (at least 3 years, depending a little on how much minor subjects you have to study). That's a little bit more than just background. If I was hiring, I would also make sure that the person in question has had some experience with a wide variety of technologies, and not just the latest buzzwords found on MSDN's front page.
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
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Welcome to the club! (I'm in the CS dept.) What degree did you acquire? Bachelor's, Master's, PhD?
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
What degree did you acquire? Bachelor's, Master's, PhD?
Actually, I don't know which is the "international" definition. I think it's Bachelor's (3 years, right?). Maybe you can help me. :)
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki
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sonsam wrote:
have you got a job lined up
Actually, I worked for months now... :-D
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki
:-D in the money then, will you be getting a raise as you now have a degree or was that already part of your contract? if you get a raise its doubles the reasons to party :cool::cool:
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Rage wrote:
I had some troubles with the head department of my schools, so I did not go to the ceremony when diplomas were handed out
Why? In my case, there is no a "ceremony". Easy, fast. :-D
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki
Dario Solera wrote:
Why?
Well, I studied both in France and Germany, and during the exchange year when I was in Germany, people from my school literally "dropped" us in Germany with no assistance. No mail to ask how things were going. Nothing during 8 months, but for getting the cash to pay the school. So I told them about how crappy the organization were, and they did not really like it.
Don't follow any man spiritually, don't do anything that will get you in sh*t if god is real - Bradml[^]
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Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
What degree did you acquire? Bachelor's, Master's, PhD?
Actually, I don't know which is the "international" definition. I think it's Bachelor's (3 years, right?). Maybe you can help me. :)
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki
Dario Solera wrote:
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker
:cool: sig.
Software Zen:
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:-D in the money then, will you be getting a raise as you now have a degree or was that already part of your contract? if you get a raise its doubles the reasons to party :cool::cool:
sonsam wrote:
in the money then, will you be getting a raise as you now have a degree or was that already part of your contract?
I've never discussed about that. I might try. :-D
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki
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I happen to have a degree (Information Technology Engineering) since today. Just returned from university where I discussed my final project.
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki
Congrats Dario! And today happens to be beer-day! [|_|
Dario Solera wrote:
(Information Technology Engineering)
Tell me, does this include any hardware? (Digital Electronics like microprocessors & pics etc etc)
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Congrats Dario! And today happens to be beer-day! [|_|
Dario Solera wrote:
(Information Technology Engineering)
Tell me, does this include any hardware? (Digital Electronics like microprocessors & pics etc etc)
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evilnoodle wrote:
(Digital Electronics like microprocessors & pics etc etc)
Yes, in the form of analog and digital electronics, signal processing and logical (binary) networks design. I almost never touched a physical device, though...
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki
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Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
What degree did you acquire? Bachelor's, Master's, PhD?
Actually, I don't know which is the "international" definition. I think it's Bachelor's (3 years, right?). Maybe you can help me. :)
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki
European Bachelor's are often 3 years, IIRC. American Bachelor's are 4 years if I recall correctly, due to required minor subjects. So, how does it feel to be free? :-D I got a job right before the dot com bubble burst, and got back to the university when it burst. I got hired as a teacher, and studied for my master's as a went along. Took me 2 years to finish that last fourth year. On the other hand, I got full pay, so I'm not complaining. And when I got "back out in the wild", I had a "real" job waiting for me.
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
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European Bachelor's are often 3 years, IIRC. American Bachelor's are 4 years if I recall correctly, due to required minor subjects. So, how does it feel to be free? :-D I got a job right before the dot com bubble burst, and got back to the university when it burst. I got hired as a teacher, and studied for my master's as a went along. Took me 2 years to finish that last fourth year. On the other hand, I got full pay, so I'm not complaining. And when I got "back out in the wild", I had a "real" job waiting for me.
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
how does it feel to be free?
I don't know yet. I already have a job, at least until December. Me and a friend of mine are planning to open a small software company.
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki