Degree?

Marc Clifton

Dario Solera wrote:

Why would I ever take a degree if not for the appearance?

:laugh: Marc

Gary Wheeler

From what I've seen, a degree is simply a statement that the person has had exposure to a certain minimum background. Note the word 'exposure'; it doesn't say anything about how much they gained by it. A lot of self-taught programmers (in other words, non-degreed) tend to be of the 'every problem is a nail, and I've got this nifty hammer' variety. I've worked with my share of them. Some are flexible, some not. A degree is not a guarantee of competence or ability. Neither is any amount of experience. The only proof is to get the person in place, and see what they can do.

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Dario Solera

szukuro wrote:

I too would have gotten mine today hadn't I failed an exam last semester.

That happened to me too. Very... annoying. :)

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Dario Solera

Rage wrote:

I had some troubles with the head department of my schools, so I did not go to the ceremony when diplomas were handed out

Why? In my case, there is no a "ceremony". Easy, fast. :-D

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Jorgen Sigvardsson

Welcome to the club! (I'm in the CS dept.) What degree did you acquire? Bachelor's, Master's, PhD?

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Jorgen Sigvardsson

I agree with you 99% percent. A degree shows that you have at least dedicated yourself to finish a long term task (at least 3 years, depending a little on how much minor subjects you have to study). That's a little bit more than just background. If I was hiring, I would also make sure that the person in question has had some experience with a wide variety of technologies, and not just the latest buzzwords found on MSDN's front page.

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Dario Solera

Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

What degree did you acquire? Bachelor's, Master's, PhD?

Actually, I don't know which is the "international" definition. I think it's Bachelor's (3 years, right?). Maybe you can help me. :)

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Sam_c

:-D in the money then, will you be getting a raise as you now have a degree or was that already part of your contract? if you get a raise its doubles the reasons to party :cool::cool:

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Rage

Dario Solera wrote:

Why?

Well, I studied both in France and Germany, and during the exchange year when I was in Germany, people from my school literally "dropped" us in Germany with no assistance. No mail to ask how things were going. Nothing during 8 months, but for getting the cash to pay the school. So I told them about how crappy the organization were, and they did not really like it.

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Gary Wheeler

Dario Solera wrote:

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:cool: sig.

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Dario Solera

sonsam wrote:

in the money then, will you be getting a raise as you now have a degree or was that already part of your contract?

I've never discussed about that. I might try. :-D

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MatthysDT

Congrats Dario! And today happens to be beer-day! [|_|

Dario Solera wrote:

(Information Technology Engineering)

Tell me, does this include any hardware? (Digital Electronics like microprocessors & pics etc etc)

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Dario Solera

evilnoodle wrote:

(Digital Electronics like microprocessors & pics etc etc)

Yes, in the form of analog and digital electronics, signal processing and logical (binary) networks design. I almost never touched a physical device, though...

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Jorgen Sigvardsson

European Bachelor's are often 3 years, IIRC. American Bachelor's are 4 years if I recall correctly, due to required minor subjects. So, how does it feel to be free? :-D I got a job right before the dot com bubble burst, and got back to the university when it burst. I got hired as a teacher, and studied for my master's as a went along. Took me 2 years to finish that last fourth year. On the other hand, I got full pay, so I'm not complaining. And when I got "back out in the wild", I had a "real" job waiting for me.

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Dario Solera

Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

how does it feel to be free?

I don't know yet. I already have a job, at least until December. Me and a friend of mine are planning to open a small software company.

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Jim Crafton

Congrats! :)

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Nemanja Trifunovic

Marc Clifton wrote:

where degrees are worthless except for their appearances

:) A degree (or "appearance") really helps with finding the first job.

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MatthysDT

I'm doing Computer System's Engineering and if all goes well :rolleyes: I should have my degree by the end of this year. My last two subjects are going to be mountains, only had my first class lastnight, but our final project for the semester is to design and build a working pic using VHDL. This course is very hands-on because this University used to be a Technicon back in the day... Congrats once again!! Now it's time to make some money!!

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MatthysDT

Jim Crafton wrote:

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Jorgen Sigvardsson

Dario Solera wrote:

Me and a friend of mine are planning to open a small software company.

Best wishes!

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