Degree?

Marc Clifton

Dario Solera wrote:

I happen to have a degree (Information Technology Engineering) since today.

Congrats! Now welcome to the real world, where degrees are worthless except for their appearances. ;P Marc

Dario Solera

sonsam wrote:

have you got a job lined up

Actually, I worked for months now... :-D

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Dario Solera

Marc Clifton wrote:

degrees are worthless except for their appearances.

Why would I ever take a degree if not for the appearance? :-D

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Marc Clifton

Dario Solera wrote:

Why would I ever take a degree if not for the appearance?

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Gary Wheeler

From what I've seen, a degree is simply a statement that the person has had exposure to a certain minimum background. Note the word 'exposure'; it doesn't say anything about how much they gained by it. A lot of self-taught programmers (in other words, non-degreed) tend to be of the 'every problem is a nail, and I've got this nifty hammer' variety. I've worked with my share of them. Some are flexible, some not. A degree is not a guarantee of competence or ability. Neither is any amount of experience. The only proof is to get the person in place, and see what they can do.

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Dario Solera

szukuro wrote:

I too would have gotten mine today hadn't I failed an exam last semester.

That happened to me too. Very... annoying. :)

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Dario Solera

Rage wrote:

I had some troubles with the head department of my schools, so I did not go to the ceremony when diplomas were handed out

Why? In my case, there is no a "ceremony". Easy, fast. :-D

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Jorgen Sigvardsson

Welcome to the club! (I'm in the CS dept.) What degree did you acquire? Bachelor's, Master's, PhD?

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Jorgen Sigvardsson

I agree with you 99% percent. A degree shows that you have at least dedicated yourself to finish a long term task (at least 3 years, depending a little on how much minor subjects you have to study). That's a little bit more than just background. If I was hiring, I would also make sure that the person in question has had some experience with a wide variety of technologies, and not just the latest buzzwords found on MSDN's front page.

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Dario Solera

Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

What degree did you acquire? Bachelor's, Master's, PhD?

Actually, I don't know which is the "international" definition. I think it's Bachelor's (3 years, right?). Maybe you can help me. :)

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Sam_c

:-D in the money then, will you be getting a raise as you now have a degree or was that already part of your contract? if you get a raise its doubles the reasons to party :cool::cool:

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Rage

Dario Solera wrote:

Why?

Well, I studied both in France and Germany, and during the exchange year when I was in Germany, people from my school literally "dropped" us in Germany with no assistance. No mail to ask how things were going. Nothing during 8 months, but for getting the cash to pay the school. So I told them about how crappy the organization were, and they did not really like it.

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Gary Wheeler

Dario Solera wrote:

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:cool: sig.

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Dario Solera

sonsam wrote:

in the money then, will you be getting a raise as you now have a degree or was that already part of your contract?

I've never discussed about that. I might try. :-D

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MatthysDT

Congrats Dario! And today happens to be beer-day! [|_|

Dario Solera wrote:

(Information Technology Engineering)

Tell me, does this include any hardware? (Digital Electronics like microprocessors & pics etc etc)

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Dario Solera

evilnoodle wrote:

(Digital Electronics like microprocessors & pics etc etc)

Yes, in the form of analog and digital electronics, signal processing and logical (binary) networks design. I almost never touched a physical device, though...

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Jorgen Sigvardsson

European Bachelor's are often 3 years, IIRC. American Bachelor's are 4 years if I recall correctly, due to required minor subjects. So, how does it feel to be free? :-D I got a job right before the dot com bubble burst, and got back to the university when it burst. I got hired as a teacher, and studied for my master's as a went along. Took me 2 years to finish that last fourth year. On the other hand, I got full pay, so I'm not complaining. And when I got "back out in the wild", I had a "real" job waiting for me.

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Dario Solera

Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

how does it feel to be free?

I don't know yet. I already have a job, at least until December. Me and a friend of mine are planning to open a small software company.

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Jim Crafton

Congrats! :)

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Marc Clifton wrote:

where degrees are worthless except for their appearances

:) A degree (or "appearance") really helps with finding the first job.

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