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  • V Vikram A Punathambekar

    ARRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH![^] I'm *so* glad my new employer uses Outlook. [relieved emoticon] Heh, anyway, my previous employer only moved from Notes 5 to Notes 6 last year.

    Cheers, Vıkram.


    After all is said and done, much is said and little is done.

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    Nish Nishant
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    I suppose future job interviews featuring you might go like this :- HR Exec : Alright you seem quite alright, let's discuss your salary now. Vikram : No, haven't got there yet. Before that, let's talk about your enterprise mail client. HR Exec : wtf!!!

    Regards, Nish


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      I suppose future job interviews featuring you might go like this :- HR Exec : Alright you seem quite alright, let's discuss your salary now. Vikram : No, haven't got there yet. Before that, let's talk about your enterprise mail client. HR Exec : wtf!!!

      Regards, Nish


      Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
      My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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      Jerry Hammond
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      Phew. I was beginning to worry that I'm the only person who on occasion boils things down to its most simplistic, pendantic terms, ignoring the broader implications of an indicator. Thanks, Nish, for making me feel all warm and fuzzy in the knowledge that others, such as yourself, exhibit that foible. ;P

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      • V Vikram A Punathambekar

        ARRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH![^] I'm *so* glad my new employer uses Outlook. [relieved emoticon] Heh, anyway, my previous employer only moved from Notes 5 to Notes 6 last year.

        Cheers, Vıkram.


        After all is said and done, much is said and little is done.

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        I'll be curious to see what it looks like since it supposed to be based on the Eclipse rich client framework. It would be nice if they could get search to actually work in some fashion more impressive than what an 8 year old might code.

        ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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        • V Vikram A Punathambekar

          ARRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH![^] I'm *so* glad my new employer uses Outlook. [relieved emoticon] Heh, anyway, my previous employer only moved from Notes 5 to Notes 6 last year.

          Cheers, Vıkram.


          After all is said and done, much is said and little is done.

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          Jim Crafton
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          Here's a supposed screenshot if anyone cares: http://blog.agileware.net/images/hannover.jpg[^]

          ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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          • V Vikram A Punathambekar

            ARRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH![^] I'm *so* glad my new employer uses Outlook. [relieved emoticon] Heh, anyway, my previous employer only moved from Notes 5 to Notes 6 last year.

            Cheers, Vıkram.


            After all is said and done, much is said and little is done.

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            Nice to see that the profanity filter is working ;)

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              Nice to see that the profanity filter is working ;)

              --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ

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              Jim Crafton
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              It must be a pre-emptive filter!

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              • J Jim Crafton

                I'll be curious to see what it looks like since it supposed to be based on the Eclipse rich client framework. It would be nice if they could get search to actually work in some fashion more impressive than what an 8 year old might code.

                ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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                It's supposed to be a vast improvement, usability wise, over earlier versions.

                Kevin

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                • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                  ARRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH![^] I'm *so* glad my new employer uses Outlook. [relieved emoticon] Heh, anyway, my previous employer only moved from Notes 5 to Notes 6 last year.

                  Cheers, Vıkram.


                  After all is said and done, much is said and little is done.

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                  Christian Graus
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                  Notes sucks SO bad....

                  Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                  • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                    ARRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH![^] I'm *so* glad my new employer uses Outlook. [relieved emoticon] Heh, anyway, my previous employer only moved from Notes 5 to Notes 6 last year.

                    Cheers, Vıkram.


                    After all is said and done, much is said and little is done.

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                    Colin Angus Mackay
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                    Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                    I'm *so* glad my new employer uses Outlook

                    Really?! Microsoft's new Chief Software Architect designed Lotus Notes. Let's hope he's learned his lesson. Otherwise we're all doomed!


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                    • C Christian Graus

                      Notes sucks SO bad....

                      Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                      Amen.

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                      • C Christian Graus

                        Notes sucks SO bad....

                        Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                        yeah i have it use it...its soo bad thats its indescribable worse than an ocker rugby player on the beer ;) Bryce

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                        • J Jim Crafton

                          Here's a supposed screenshot if anyone cares: http://blog.agileware.net/images/hannover.jpg[^]

                          ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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                          X| All that busy-ness and the only command container you get is a menu. E-mails as sub-tabs? Has kind of a pretty scheme too it. Seems like only the graphics guys did their jobs.

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                            X| All that busy-ness and the only command container you get is a menu. E-mails as sub-tabs? Has kind of a pretty scheme too it. Seems like only the graphics guys did their jobs.

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                            Jay Gatsby
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                            I agree, the scheme looks good, but it doesn't seem to have the least bit of an intuitive layout. It's like anything else: it needs to work before it needs to look good, like a sports car for instance: it gets boring fast if it can't even move.

                            -Gatsby

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                              Notes sucks SO bad....

                              Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "I am working on a project that will convert a FORTRAN code to corresponding C++ code.I am not aware of FORTRAN syntax" ( spotted in the C++/CLI forum )

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                              Sebastian Schneider
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                              Hear, hear.

                              Cheers, Sebastian -- "If it was two men, the non-driver would have challenged the driver to simply crash through the gates. The macho image thing, you know." - Marc Clifton

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                              • K Kevin McFarlane

                                It's supposed to be a vast improvement, usability wise, over earlier versions.

                                Kevin

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                                Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                                Sadly that is not saying much. X|

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                                  Here's a supposed screenshot if anyone cares: http://blog.agileware.net/images/hannover.jpg[^]

                                  ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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                                  Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                                  Words fail me. X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X| X|

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                                    Sadly that is not saying much. X|

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                                    Kevin McFarlane
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                                    I used Notes briefly about 7 years ago. My impression was that it was much more powerful than Outlook but that its usability sucked big time. It's one of the main reasons why Microsoft is so dominant. Despite our continual moaning about Microsoft, its products tend to look pretty and be easy to use. Competitors are frequently ugly ducklings. Looks matter.

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                                    • K Kevin McFarlane

                                      I used Notes briefly about 7 years ago. My impression was that it was much more powerful than Outlook but that its usability sucked big time. It's one of the main reasons why Microsoft is so dominant. Despite our continual moaning about Microsoft, its products tend to look pretty and be easy to use. Competitors are frequently ugly ducklings. Looks matter.

                                      Kevin

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                                      urbane tiger
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                                      I too used it several years ago, as a mail system it was just OK. As a collaborative workbench it was excellent. And it was a good start on helping to develop an enterprise ethos whereby corporate memory did not walk out the door when someone resigned or retired. As a development environment it was awful. Post modernists preferred Outlook (form without substance), pragmatists and modernists preferred Notes.

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                                      • K Kevin McFarlane

                                        I used Notes briefly about 7 years ago. My impression was that it was much more powerful than Outlook but that its usability sucked big time. It's one of the main reasons why Microsoft is so dominant. Despite our continual moaning about Microsoft, its products tend to look pretty and be easy to use. Competitors are frequently ugly ducklings. Looks matter.

                                        Kevin

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                                        Gary Wheeler
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                                        Kevin McFarlane wrote:

                                        easy to use

                                        Lotus Notes (at least version 6.5, which is what I'm forced to use) is an abomination from the standpoint of usability. "Powerful" doesn't even figure into it; it's an e-mail client, for God's sake. Send, receive, and store e-mails. That's all it's supposed to do, and it can't do that without making it look like the cockpit for a B-52.


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                                        • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                                          ARRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH![^] I'm *so* glad my new employer uses Outlook. [relieved emoticon] Heh, anyway, my previous employer only moved from Notes 5 to Notes 6 last year.

                                          Cheers, Vıkram.


                                          After all is said and done, much is said and little is done.

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                                          ednrgc
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                                          I worked for a couple of clients that used Notes. Notes was an unbelievable memory hog, to the point where you couldn't keep it open while your IDE was open. Both were sucking resources by the second. Hopefully, newer versions have fixed this.

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