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  • D Dinobot_Slag

    Quartz. wrote:

    she want to share it with 5 children and you

    if that's the case then she needs 7 pieces, not 6

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    El Corazon
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    Quartz. wrote: she want to share it with 5 children and you

    Dinobot_Slag wrote:

    if that's the case then she needs 7 pieces, not 6

    She'll give you a piece later when the children are asleep. Patience.

    _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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    • M Mircea Grelus

      I'm getting mad here. The bloody woman is shaaaaaaring. 1 woman + 5 children + you = ?

      Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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      Raj Lal
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      By share i meant, "share between her 5 children" AND "you", it was share between her children and you. sorry if i got you confused !

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      • M Mircea Grelus

        Seriously. I've uploaded another figure[^]. The left, top and bottom pieces are double (because they are horizontally cut through the middle.) The right piece is single.

        Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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        Raj Lal
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        in your second figure also the first cut is just the left portion so the total number of piece will be 5 ?

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        • S Shog9 0

          :doh:

          every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?

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          Bassam Abdul Baki
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          I was addressing you as in the woman who will divide the donut up. Take a deep breath. :)


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          • M Mircea Grelus

            Seriously. I've uploaded another figure[^]. The left, top and bottom pieces are double (because they are horizontally cut through the middle.) The right piece is single.

            Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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            Raj Lal
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            are you also counting the bend as break ?

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            • B Bassam Abdul Baki

              I was addressing you as in the woman who will divide the donut up. Take a deep breath. :)


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              Shog9 0
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              Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

              I was addressing you as in the woman who will divide the donut up. Take a deep breath.

              Now, thats starting to sound dirty... ;P

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                Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                I was addressing you as in the woman who will divide the donut up. Take a deep breath.

                Now, thats starting to sound dirty... ;P

                every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?

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                Bassam Abdul Baki
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                [Homer]Think unsexy thoughts, think unsexy thoughts.[/Homer]


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                • R Raj Lal

                  are you also counting the bend as break ?

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                  Mircea Grelus
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                  I can't believe this. Take 2 sheets of paper and cut them in the shape of a donut. Bend them and cut the C shape top-down as shown in my drawing. Count the pieces. You'll find eight of them. Assuming the rightmost piece (the piece to the right of the dotted line) is NOT cut through the middle - because as I mention it ISN'T - the 2 pieces of paper are actually one. So you have 7 pieces. Or better yet forget it. I'm getting tired of this.

                  Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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                  • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                    [Homer]Think unsexy thoughts, think unsexy thoughts.[/Homer]


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                    Shog9 0
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                    #58

                    Mmmm... beer...

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                    • S Shog9 0

                      Mmmm... beer...

                      every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?

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                      Bassam Abdul Baki
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                      Hmmm, sleeeep.


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                      • L leppie

                        Mircea Grelus wrote:

                        Place them on top of each other and make another cut top-down on the C shape to divide each shape into 3.

                        Dont understand! :confused: I get 4 pieces, and now I wasted a perfectly good donut! ;P

                        xacc.ide
                        The rule of three: "The first time you notice something that might repeat, don't generalize it. The second time the situation occurs, develop in a similar fashion -- possibly even copy/paste -- but don't generalize yet. On the third time, look to generalize the approach."

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                        El Corazon
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                        leppie wrote:

                        I get 4 pieces, and now I wasted a perfectly good donut!

                        eat it and then try with a fresh one. Repeat until solution is found. Tell your spouse it is research.... :laugh:

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                        • R Raj Lal

                          YOU ALREADY GOT IT THERE , ITS MEANT FOR 5 CHILDREN AND YOU , THE WOMAN IS NOT EATING HAVE FUN WITH YOUR PIECE

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                          El Corazon
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                          Quartz. wrote:

                          HAVE FUN WITH YOUR PIECE

                          I'll give her mine, she can share a piece with me later. ;P

                          _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                          • R Raj Lal

                            thats correct

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                            leppie
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                            Bah! My solution is muuuuuch better! :)

                            xacc.ide
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                            • E El Corazon

                              Quartz. wrote: she want to share it with 5 children and you

                              Dinobot_Slag wrote:

                              if that's the case then she needs 7 pieces, not 6

                              She'll give you a piece later when the children are asleep. Patience.

                              _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                              Mike Poz
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                              The word Quartz is should have used is either "between" or "among", not "with". "With" implies that she's participation in the sharing. By the way, I need a visual display of the "cut in half (two halves) overlap like an x and cut in the middle (two halves cut in the middle makes four in my mind)" to see how you get six pieces from this. No matter how I do it, it always comes out to be either four pieces or eight pieces. And no, there's no bending because donuts worth dividing up aren't flexible like that. Trust me, I've eaten enough of them in my life time to be sure of this.

                              Mike Poz

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                              • R Raj Lal

                                A women has a donut, and TWO "use and throw" knives. she want to share it with 5 children and you, only if you can help her do that? [added] the women is sharing between her children and you , she is not eating [/added] -- modified at 19:22 Thursday 25th October, 2007

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                                Raj Lal
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                                Here is the solution [^] 1. Cut the donut into two piece vertically 2. Put one above the other (as in the picture reverse C at the top of a C) and cut then from the line

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                                • M Mike Poz

                                  The word Quartz is should have used is either "between" or "among", not "with". "With" implies that she's participation in the sharing. By the way, I need a visual display of the "cut in half (two halves) overlap like an x and cut in the middle (two halves cut in the middle makes four in my mind)" to see how you get six pieces from this. No matter how I do it, it always comes out to be either four pieces or eight pieces. And no, there's no bending because donuts worth dividing up aren't flexible like that. Trust me, I've eaten enough of them in my life time to be sure of this.

                                  Mike Poz

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                                  Raj Lal
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                                  i have added the solution with picture

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                                  • L Lost User

                                    Cut the donut into Half. This will give us two C shaped donut pieces. Now place them as piece#1 as "C" at bottom and on top of it 2nd piece but in flipped "C" form so basically like "X" but overlapped. then cut in middle. This gives us 6 pieces. I hope you can visualize what I was saying.

                                    Sohail

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                                    Raj Lal
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                                    i have added a picture for the solution

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                                    • J Jim Crafton

                                      Have you seen a donut recently? If you tried to "fold" it that many times you'd end up with a handful of crumbs, a group of pissed off little kids, and then a woman with a knife, a headache (from the kids), and an extremely bad disposition towards you. Yeah, sounds like a true win/win situation!!! :)

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                                      Raj Lal
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                                      It was never meant to be bent

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                                      • L leppie

                                        Mircea Grelus wrote:

                                        Place them on top of each other and make another cut top-down on the C shape to divide each shape into 3.

                                        Dont understand! :confused: I get 4 pieces, and now I wasted a perfectly good donut! ;P

                                        xacc.ide
                                        The rule of three: "The first time you notice something that might repeat, don't generalize it. The second time the situation occurs, develop in a similar fashion -- possibly even copy/paste -- but don't generalize yet. On the third time, look to generalize the approach."

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                                        Raj Lal
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                                        added solution

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                                        • M Mircea Grelus

                                          I can't believe this. Take 2 sheets of paper and cut them in the shape of a donut. Bend them and cut the C shape top-down as shown in my drawing. Count the pieces. You'll find eight of them. Assuming the rightmost piece (the piece to the right of the dotted line) is NOT cut through the middle - because as I mention it ISN'T - the 2 pieces of paper are actually one. So you have 7 pieces. Or better yet forget it. I'm getting tired of this.

                                          Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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                                          Raj Lal
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                                          I was just trying to understand because if you can get 7 pieces in two cuts that makes it very interesting. and here is the picture of your solution http://trickofmind.com/images/puzzles/7pieces.png[^] Do you see anything glaring ?

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