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Mircea Grelus wrote:
Place them on top of each other and make another cut top-down on the C shape to divide each shape into 3.
Dont understand! :confused: I get 4 pieces, and now I wasted a perfectly good donut! ;P
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The rule of three: "The first time you notice something that might repeat, don't generalize it. The second time the situation occurs, develop in a similar fashion -- possibly even copy/paste -- but don't generalize yet. On the third time, look to generalize the approach."leppie wrote:
I get 4 pieces, and now I wasted a perfectly good donut!
eat it and then try with a fresh one. Repeat until solution is found. Tell your spouse it is research.... :laugh:
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YOU ALREADY GOT IT THERE , ITS MEANT FOR 5 CHILDREN AND YOU , THE WOMAN IS NOT EATING HAVE FUN WITH YOUR PIECE
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Quartz. wrote:
HAVE FUN WITH YOUR PIECE
I'll give her mine, she can share a piece with me later. ;P
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thats correct
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Bah! My solution is muuuuuch better! :)
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Quartz. wrote: she want to share it with 5 children and you
Dinobot_Slag wrote:
if that's the case then she needs 7 pieces, not 6
She'll give you a piece later when the children are asleep. Patience.
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The word Quartz is should have used is either "between" or "among", not "with". "With" implies that she's participation in the sharing. By the way, I need a visual display of the "cut in half (two halves) overlap like an x and cut in the middle (two halves cut in the middle makes four in my mind)" to see how you get six pieces from this. No matter how I do it, it always comes out to be either four pieces or eight pieces. And no, there's no bending because donuts worth dividing up aren't flexible like that. Trust me, I've eaten enough of them in my life time to be sure of this.
Mike Poz
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A women has a donut, and TWO "use and throw" knives. she want to share it with 5 children and you, only if you can help her do that? [added] the women is sharing between her children and you , she is not eating [/added] -- modified at 19:22 Thursday 25th October, 2007
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Here is the solution [^] 1. Cut the donut into two piece vertically 2. Put one above the other (as in the picture reverse C at the top of a C) and cut then from the line
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The word Quartz is should have used is either "between" or "among", not "with". "With" implies that she's participation in the sharing. By the way, I need a visual display of the "cut in half (two halves) overlap like an x and cut in the middle (two halves cut in the middle makes four in my mind)" to see how you get six pieces from this. No matter how I do it, it always comes out to be either four pieces or eight pieces. And no, there's no bending because donuts worth dividing up aren't flexible like that. Trust me, I've eaten enough of them in my life time to be sure of this.
Mike Poz
i have added the solution with picture
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Cut the donut into Half. This will give us two C shaped donut pieces. Now place them as piece#1 as "C" at bottom and on top of it 2nd piece but in flipped "C" form so basically like "X" but overlapped. then cut in middle. This gives us 6 pieces. I hope you can visualize what I was saying.
Sohail
i have added a picture for the solution
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Have you seen a donut recently? If you tried to "fold" it that many times you'd end up with a handful of crumbs, a group of pissed off little kids, and then a woman with a knife, a headache (from the kids), and an extremely bad disposition towards you. Yeah, sounds like a true win/win situation!!! :)
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It was never meant to be bent
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Mircea Grelus wrote:
Place them on top of each other and make another cut top-down on the C shape to divide each shape into 3.
Dont understand! :confused: I get 4 pieces, and now I wasted a perfectly good donut! ;P
xacc.ide
The rule of three: "The first time you notice something that might repeat, don't generalize it. The second time the situation occurs, develop in a similar fashion -- possibly even copy/paste -- but don't generalize yet. On the third time, look to generalize the approach."added solution
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I can't believe this. Take 2 sheets of paper and cut them in the shape of a donut. Bend them and cut the C shape top-down as shown in my drawing. Count the pieces. You'll find eight of them. Assuming the rightmost piece (the piece to the right of the dotted line) is NOT cut through the middle - because as I mention it ISN'T - the 2 pieces of paper are actually one. So you have 7 pieces. Or better yet forget it. I'm getting tired of this.
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I was just trying to understand because if you can get 7 pieces in two cuts that makes it very interesting. and here is the picture of your solution http://trickofmind.com/images/puzzles/7pieces.png[^] Do you see anything glaring ?
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A women has a donut, and TWO "use and throw" knives. she want to share it with 5 children and you, only if you can help her do that? [added] the women is sharing between her children and you , she is not eating [/added] -- modified at 19:22 Thursday 25th October, 2007
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I am bigger than the children, so I use the knives to threaten them into submission and eat both doughnuts.:)
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I am bigger than the children, so I use the knives to threaten them into submission and eat both doughnuts.:)
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There is just one donut!
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A women has a donut, and TWO "use and throw" knives. she want to share it with 5 children and you, only if you can help her do that? [added] the women is sharing between her children and you , she is not eating [/added] -- modified at 19:22 Thursday 25th October, 2007
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http://xacc.qsh.eu/donuts.png[^] The knife can cut curves right? :p
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The rule of three: "The first time you notice something that might repeat, don't generalize it. The second time the situation occurs, develop in a similar fashion -- possibly even copy/paste -- but don't generalize yet. On the third time, look to generalize the approach." -
I was just trying to understand because if you can get 7 pieces in two cuts that makes it very interesting. and here is the picture of your solution http://trickofmind.com/images/puzzles/7pieces.png[^] Do you see anything glaring ?
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your count is treating the bend as a cut. peices 3 and 5 are connected at the bend, as are 4 and 6.
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dan neely wrote:
peices 3 and 5 are connected at the bend, as are 4 and 6
yes thats what i was trying to clearify ! and AFAIK, i have drawn the solution as per "Mircea Grelus"
Mircea Grelus wrote:
So, cut horizontally from left to right up until the dotted line. Without moving the donut bend the left side over the right one to form a C shape (flipped). Now make a second cut on the dotted line. With this final cut, the left C shape is split into 6 pieces (3 for the top C shape and 3 for the button one) and there is the right piece, making it 7 pieces.
Compare with http://trickofmind.com/images/puzzles/7pieces.png[^]
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A women has a donut, and TWO "use and throw" knives. she want to share it with 5 children and you, only if you can help her do that? [added] the women is sharing between her children and you , she is not eating [/added] -- modified at 19:22 Thursday 25th October, 2007
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Cut donut in half: 2 pieces Throw knife into 1 child Cut donut in half: 4 pieces. Throw knife into 1 child. 4 pieces, 4 survivors.
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thats correct
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It was never meant to be bent
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Quartz. wrote:
It was never meant to be bent
Yea, I hate it when that happens.
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dan neely wrote:
peices 3 and 5 are connected at the bend, as are 4 and 6
yes thats what i was trying to clearify ! and AFAIK, i have drawn the solution as per "Mircea Grelus"
Mircea Grelus wrote:
So, cut horizontally from left to right up until the dotted line. Without moving the donut bend the left side over the right one to form a C shape (flipped). Now make a second cut on the dotted line. With this final cut, the left C shape is split into 6 pieces (3 for the top C shape and 3 for the button one) and there is the right piece, making it 7 pieces.
Compare with http://trickofmind.com/images/puzzles/7pieces.png[^]
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This is an invalid solution. You specified two cuts in the original post. The only way to separate the 3/5 and 6/4 pieces is with a starting cut to break the donut into two pieces. That would be the real first cut. Where you marked "cut 1" would actually be the second cut, and where you marked "cut 2" would actually be the third cut.
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