How do I get paid more?
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Everytime I see these fantasy sums, I start to wonder if these people really are worth all that much money.
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
Of course they are, it's the finance industry, the very heart of capitalism; they are getting paid exactly what hard core capitalists think they're worth. You can't get a much more accurate assesment than that.
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Everytime I see these fantasy sums, I start to wonder if these people really are worth all that much money.
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
I start to wonder if these people really are worth all that much money
no one is, not even pro sports player...
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Everytime I see these fantasy sums, I start to wonder if these people really are worth all that much money.
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
Everytime I see these fantasy sums, I start to wonder if these people really are worth all that much money.
Much of that worth comes from their skills at underpaying and overworking workers. Good thing to remember when you're spending late nights updating your own (technical) skills.
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Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
I start to wonder if these people really are worth all that much money
no one is, not even pro sports player...
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Except me.
This blanket smells like ham
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Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
I start to wonder if these people really are worth all that much money
no one is, not even pro sports player...
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VonHagNDaz wrote:
no one is, not even pro sports player...
I'd say that if you can convince somebody to pay you that much you are 100% worth it.
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VonHagNDaz wrote:
no one is, not even pro sports player...
I'd say that if you can convince somebody to pay you that much you are 100% worth it.
My Blog A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long
Chris Austin wrote:
if you can convince somebody to pay you that much you are 100% worth it
I suppose, but the trick is trying to get paid what you're actually worth, I haven't figured that one out yet?
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Of course they are, it's the finance industry, the very heart of capitalism; they are getting paid exactly what hard core capitalists think they're worth. You can't get a much more accurate assesment than that.
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I guess I'm saying that these hardcore capitalists have lost their senses. There is nothing wrong with being wealthy, but at some point, it's just pointless. If you have 1 billion, or 10 billion - would it matter?
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
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I guess I'm saying that these hardcore capitalists have lost their senses. There is nothing wrong with being wealthy, but at some point, it's just pointless. If you have 1 billion, or 10 billion - would it matter?
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
You misunderstand, what you are saying is the equivalent of saying to a programmer that at some point they've written enough code and there is no point in writing more. Money is their equivalent of source code.
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Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
I start to wonder if these people really are worth all that much money
no one is, not even pro sports player...
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"Merril Lynch on Tuesday boosted Stan O’Neal’s departure package by almost $90m -- taking it to $160m -- by letting him retire as chairman and chief executive rather than sacking him." I'd happily be sacked for ninety million. Maybe even less. BDF
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160 Million to leave your job For real, I only need 10% of that. Only for one year, then I can retire.
I didn't get any requirements for the signature
move to switzerland... they are the highest payed IT ppl in the world where as Aus got in 10th :(
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I can agree with that. My most effective bargaining tool has been to wave a job offer under my boss's nose. It's not so much an "art" as it is a club. It can't be a bluff however, you have to be prepared for them to call it.
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot Me blog, You read
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You misunderstand, what you are saying is the equivalent of saying to a programmer that at some point they've written enough code and there is no point in writing more. Money is their equivalent of source code.
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You misunderstand, what you are saying is the equivalent of saying to a programmer that at some point they've written enough code and there is no point in writing more. Money is their equivalent of source code.
Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscripti catapultas habebunt
What? Pardon me, but that's the stupidest analogy I've ever heard. You don't acquire source code from elsewhere, you create it yourself. If you create money yourself, you will get a vacation in striped clothing. Only someone very selfish would hoard wealth like a friggin squirrel, when a difference in wealth on the magnitude of 10 really doesn't make any difference for them personally. If only more wealthy people could be like Bill Gates. Then I can see justification for hoarding so much of it.
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
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No, it's one of the crappiest I've ever heard.
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
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No, it's one of the crappiest I've ever heard.
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
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160 Million to leave your job For real, I only need 10% of that. Only for one year, then I can retire.
I didn't get any requirements for the signature
I think you should ask a project manager, not a bunch of coders. Of course the project manager will tell you, "that it is because you are a coder that you get paid what you are paid, and you need to be a project manager". yada yada yada...
MrPlankton
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Yeah, you can't do that if you are not already, in some way, valuable to the company. Or they'll just let you go, and if you don't go, then they won't look at you like before. (imo)
Like duuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhh. He said to be prepared for them to call your bluff. Meaning, it better not be a bluff. Have the offer and be willing to take it if they don't bend your way. I've done this three times, two resulting in significant improvements, and the third resulting in my changing employers. I don't regret changing employers at all. In fact, I was kind of hoping he would say no as I was sick of the other job anyhow.
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When you can retire instead without the stain of being fired on your record for almost double the money? :)
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Well the money part would be nice. But if you're retiring, as in not working any longer, who cares about the stain of being fired? Oh sure it would bother me a bit, but with a mere $90 million "parting gift," I'd get over it. :laugh: BDF
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What? Pardon me, but that's the stupidest analogy I've ever heard. You don't acquire source code from elsewhere, you create it yourself. If you create money yourself, you will get a vacation in striped clothing. Only someone very selfish would hoard wealth like a friggin squirrel, when a difference in wealth on the magnitude of 10 really doesn't make any difference for them personally. If only more wealthy people could be like Bill Gates. Then I can see justification for hoarding so much of it.
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
Just because you don't like something doesn't excuse being purposefully ignorant about how it works. Let's try this another way, do you live in a house? Do you make more money than a dirt poor farmer in a 3rd world country? It's easy to imagine them saying the same thing about you if your salary and lifestyle were common knowledge to them. Surely you don't need a vehicle, you don't need a television, you don't need food beyond rice and lentils, you don't need haircuts, you don't need 90% of the things you live with every day, why are you selfishly hoarding all your wealth? Those dirt farmers could use some of it. What people choose to do with their hard earned money is entirely up to them. I hold personal freedom to be about as sacred a right as there ever was. Call them selfish if you will, but I think you would be deeply wrong in most cases.
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