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    Colin Angus Mackay
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    I've recently seen references to ALT.NET and I've searched for the term but I get a bunch of links that don't really tell me much. Does anyone know what ALT.NET is?


    Upcoming FREE developer events: * Glasgow: SQL Server Managed Objects AND Reporting Services ... My website

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      I've recently seen references to ALT.NET and I've searched for the term but I get a bunch of links that don't really tell me much. Does anyone know what ALT.NET is?


      Upcoming FREE developer events: * Glasgow: SQL Server Managed Objects AND Reporting Services ... My website

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      Chris Austin
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      It's basically .net devs who adopt community standards and approaches as opposed to those espoused by ms/msdn.

      My Blog A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long

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      • C Colin Angus Mackay

        I've recently seen references to ALT.NET and I've searched for the term but I get a bunch of links that don't really tell me much. Does anyone know what ALT.NET is?


        Upcoming FREE developer events: * Glasgow: SQL Server Managed Objects AND Reporting Services ... My website

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        npclntxz dll
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        NO I DO NOT KNOW WHAT ALT.NET IS.

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          NO I DO NOT KNOW WHAT ALT.NET IS.

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          Colin Angus Mackay
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          npclntxz.dll wrote:

          NO I DO NOT KNOW WHAT ALT.NET IS.

          Thank you for that most illuminating and useful contribution to the conversation. :rolleyes:


          Upcoming FREE developer events: * Glasgow: SQL Server Managed Objects AND Reporting Services ... My website

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            npclntxz.dll wrote:

            NO I DO NOT KNOW WHAT ALT.NET IS.

            Thank you for that most illuminating and useful contribution to the conversation. :rolleyes:


            Upcoming FREE developer events: * Glasgow: SQL Server Managed Objects AND Reporting Services ... My website

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            SCREW YOU IDIOT! :mad::mad::mad:

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              SCREW YOU IDIOT! :mad::mad::mad:

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              Justin Perez
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              npclntxz.dll wrote:

              SCREW YOU IDIOT!

              What a way to introduce yourself to the community. I cannot image a better way than insulting members and yelling.

              "If an Indian asked a programming question in the forest, would it still be urgent?" - John Simmons / outlaw programmer I get all the news I need from the weather report - Paul Simon (from "The Only Living Boy in New York")

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                npclntxz.dll wrote:

                SCREW YOU IDIOT!

                What a way to introduce yourself to the community. I cannot image a better way than insulting members and yelling.

                "If an Indian asked a programming question in the forest, would it still be urgent?" - John Simmons / outlaw programmer I get all the news I need from the weather report - Paul Simon (from "The Only Living Boy in New York")

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                Colin Angus Mackay
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                Justin Perez wrote:

                What a way to introduce yourself to the community

                I suspect it is Kyle.


                Upcoming FREE developer events: * Glasgow: SQL Server Managed Objects AND Reporting Services ... My website

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                  Justin Perez wrote:

                  What a way to introduce yourself to the community

                  I suspect it is Kyle.


                  Upcoming FREE developer events: * Glasgow: SQL Server Managed Objects AND Reporting Services ... My website

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                  Justin Perez
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                  Good to know, I'll have to make sure not to fall into the black hole.

                  "If an Indian asked a programming question in the forest, would it still be urgent?" - John Simmons / outlaw programmer I get all the news I need from the weather report - Paul Simon (from "The Only Living Boy in New York")

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                    Good to know, I'll have to make sure not to fall into the black hole.

                    "If an Indian asked a programming question in the forest, would it still be urgent?" - John Simmons / outlaw programmer I get all the news I need from the weather report - Paul Simon (from "The Only Living Boy in New York")

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                    Christian Graus
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                    Generally speaking, when someone posts something like that, it's best to assume it's a troll, it almost certainly is.

                    Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                      Generally speaking, when someone posts something like that, it's best to assume it's a troll, it almost certainly is.

                      Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                      Justin Perez
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                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      Generally speaking, when someone posts something like that, it's best to assume it's a troll, it almost certainly is.

                      I see. I am pretty new around here, and to forums in general. I'm not the greatest at spotting a troll, but I bet I can do it a little better now. What's the policy on dealing with trolls, just ignoring them?

                      "If an Indian asked a programming question in the forest, would it still be urgent?" - John Simmons / outlaw programmer I get all the news I need from the weather report - Paul Simon (from "The Only Living Boy in New York")

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                        Christian Graus wrote:

                        Generally speaking, when someone posts something like that, it's best to assume it's a troll, it almost certainly is.

                        I see. I am pretty new around here, and to forums in general. I'm not the greatest at spotting a troll, but I bet I can do it a little better now. What's the policy on dealing with trolls, just ignoring them?

                        "If an Indian asked a programming question in the forest, would it still be urgent?" - John Simmons / outlaw programmer I get all the news I need from the weather report - Paul Simon (from "The Only Living Boy in New York")

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                        Nish Nishant
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                        Justin Perez wrote:

                        What's the policy on dealing with trolls, just ignoring them?

                        Mark their posts as spam/abuse :-) It's a fun thing to do when you are bored.

                        Regards, Nish


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                          Generally speaking, when someone posts something like that, it's best to assume it's a troll, it almost certainly is.

                          Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                          Paul Conrad
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                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          it's best to assume it's a troll

                          I was assuming so with the name being used.

                          "The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese" - anonymous, found in Uncle John's Bathroom Reader

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                          • C Colin Angus Mackay

                            I've recently seen references to ALT.NET and I've searched for the term but I get a bunch of links that don't really tell me much. Does anyone know what ALT.NET is?


                            Upcoming FREE developer events: * Glasgow: SQL Server Managed Objects AND Reporting Services ... My website

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                            Marc Clifton
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                            Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

                            I've recently seen references to ALT.NET and I've searched for the term but I get a bunch of links that don't really tell me much. Does anyone know what ALT.NET is?

                            When lost, try "dot" for . As in: http://altdotnet.org/[^] We are a self-organizing, ad-hoc community of developers bound by a desire to improve ourselves, challenge assumptions, and help each other pursue excellence in the practice of software development. Our movement is new. The conversation just started. All are welcome to shape and form the dialog in blogs and lists and face-to-face gatherings both local and global. Does that tell you more than you already knew? It certainly doesn't tell me much, other than that Chris Austin seems to have hit the nail on the head. :) [edit] However, go to that URL above. There's links to a wiki, blogs, etc., that you can peruse and still walk away wondering what the heck ALT.NET actually is. [/edit] Marc

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                            • C Colin Angus Mackay

                              I've recently seen references to ALT.NET and I've searched for the term but I get a bunch of links that don't really tell me much. Does anyone know what ALT.NET is?


                              Upcoming FREE developer events: * Glasgow: SQL Server Managed Objects AND Reporting Services ... My website

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                              Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                              Here is a writeup on ALT.NET: http://weblogs.asp.net/jgalloway/archive/2007/05/02/are-you-alt-net.aspx[^] Going by the weblog contents, this word is coined by David Laribee.

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                              • C Colin Angus Mackay

                                I've recently seen references to ALT.NET and I've searched for the term but I get a bunch of links that don't really tell me much. Does anyone know what ALT.NET is?


                                Upcoming FREE developer events: * Glasgow: SQL Server Managed Objects AND Reporting Services ... My website

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                                Aydin Khatamneajd
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                                ALT.NET is a emerging software development movment; Members of this movement try to get out of "mainstream" .NET and Microsoft developers and use ALTernative (origin of ALT, I guess) ways of doing things. For example they may use NHibernate technology instead of using usual .NET data access components like datasets. Although it seems to be, but ALT.NET is not another Anti-Microsoft movement; ALT.NET developers just doen't limit themselves to "usual" .NET tools and SDKs which came from Microsoft, instead they try to keep their minds open and look for new technologies and practices in order to get the best out of their effort.

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                                  ALT.NET is a emerging software development movment; Members of this movement try to get out of "mainstream" .NET and Microsoft developers and use ALTernative (origin of ALT, I guess) ways of doing things. For example they may use NHibernate technology instead of using usual .NET data access components like datasets. Although it seems to be, but ALT.NET is not another Anti-Microsoft movement; ALT.NET developers just doen't limit themselves to "usual" .NET tools and SDKs which came from Microsoft, instead they try to keep their minds open and look for new technologies and practices in order to get the best out of their effort.

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                                  Dario Solera
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                                  Aydin Pakzad wrote:

                                  ALT.NET developers just doen't limit themselves to "usual" .NET tools and SDKs which came from Microsoft, instead they try to keep their minds open and look for new technologies and practices in order to get the best out of their effort.

                                  That's probably what most of good developers do, in my opinion.

                                  If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki

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                                    Aydin Pakzad wrote:

                                    ALT.NET developers just doen't limit themselves to "usual" .NET tools and SDKs which came from Microsoft, instead they try to keep their minds open and look for new technologies and practices in order to get the best out of their effort.

                                    That's probably what most of good developers do, in my opinion.

                                    If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Blog - My Photos - ScrewTurn Wiki

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                                    Colin Angus Mackay
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                                    Dario Solera wrote:

                                    That's probably what most of good developers do, in my opinion.

                                    Absolutely - I look at whats out there and pick up tools and frameworks that could be useful to me. It seems that I practice, to some extent, ALT.NET and never knew it. Thanks everyone for helping me find out what ALT.NET is.


                                    Upcoming FREE developer events: * Glasgow: SQL Server Managed Objects AND Reporting Services ... My website

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                                      Justin Perez wrote:

                                      What's the policy on dealing with trolls, just ignoring them?

                                      Mark their posts as spam/abuse :-) It's a fun thing to do when you are bored.

                                      Regards, Nish


                                      Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                                      My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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                                      Justin Perez
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                                      Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                      Mark their posts as spam/abuse

                                      How do you do this? I don't see a button or a link, or is it just simple voting 1 to 5 the offending post.

                                      "If an Indian asked a programming question in the forest, would it still be urgent?" - John Simmons / outlaw programmer I get all the news I need from the weather report - Paul Simon (from "The Only Living Boy in New York")

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                                        Dario Solera wrote:

                                        That's probably what most of good developers do, in my opinion.

                                        Absolutely - I look at whats out there and pick up tools and frameworks that could be useful to me. It seems that I practice, to some extent, ALT.NET and never knew it. Thanks everyone for helping me find out what ALT.NET is.


                                        Upcoming FREE developer events: * Glasgow: SQL Server Managed Objects AND Reporting Services ... My website

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                                        NormDroid
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                                        Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

                                        It seems that I practice, to some extent, ALT.NET and never knew

                                        The same principle applies to Design Patterns, you'd be surprised how many good developers are actually using design patterns without knowing it.

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                                          Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                          Mark their posts as spam/abuse

                                          How do you do this? I don't see a button or a link, or is it just simple voting 1 to 5 the offending post.

                                          "If an Indian asked a programming question in the forest, would it still be urgent?" - John Simmons / outlaw programmer I get all the news I need from the weather report - Paul Simon (from "The Only Living Boy in New York")

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                                          Hard to miss... lower right corner of the post... just bellow the rate.

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