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  • T The Wizard of Doze

    Parting words for dear friends[^]

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    Good article...short and to the point, good point! Mike

    Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. "George Carlin"

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    • T The Wizard of Doze

      Parting words for dear friends[^]

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      Ray Cassick
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      Wow... burned a few bridges I would say :)


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      • T The Wizard of Doze

        Parting words for dear friends[^]

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        "C# has already designed away most of the tedium of C++." ..and replaced it with a the new tedium of trying to find whereabouts in the framewrok the class you need has been hidden...?

        '--8<------------------------ Ex Datis: Duncan Jones Merrion Computing Ltd

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          "C# has already designed away most of the tedium of C++." ..and replaced it with a the new tedium of trying to find whereabouts in the framewrok the class you need has been hidden...?

          '--8<------------------------ Ex Datis: Duncan Jones Merrion Computing Ltd

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          Duncan Edwards Jones wrote:

          ..and replaced it with a the new tedium of trying to find whereabouts in the framewrok the class you need has been hidden...?

          ...only to find that it was implemented as a private, internal class and thus you must re-implement it from scratch anyway... :rolleyes:

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          ...the wind blows over it and it is gone, and its place remembers it no more...

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          • T The Wizard of Doze

            Parting words for dear friends[^]

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            Marc Clifton
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            The Wizard of Doze wrote:

            Parting words for dear friends[^]

            Why is it that when I read about people leaving Microsoft, it comes across like a priest leaving the church so he can have sex? Marc

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            • M Marc Clifton

              The Wizard of Doze wrote:

              Parting words for dear friends[^]

              Why is it that when I read about people leaving Microsoft, it comes across like a priest leaving the church so he can have sex? Marc

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              Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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              Or like some guy that sobered up and came to his senses. I interned and worked with Microsoft when I was at University; 3 days later I was completely disillusioned.

              "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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              • T The Wizard of Doze

                Parting words for dear friends[^]

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                Mark Salsbery
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                Wow!  You mean Microsoft developers are just programmers and not gods? That's like somebody telling me Santa Claus isn't real. :rolleyes:

                Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:

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                  Or like some guy that sobered up and came to his senses. I interned and worked with Microsoft when I was at University; 3 days later I was completely disillusioned.

                  "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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                  Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                  3 days later I was completely disillusioned.

                  Well, anytime I've taken a fulltime job I get disillusioned in about 3 days. But for some reason, as a consultant, it takes far longer. Which is good. Marc

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                  • M Marc Clifton

                    Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                    3 days later I was completely disillusioned.

                    Well, anytime I've taken a fulltime job I get disillusioned in about 3 days. But for some reason, as a consultant, it takes far longer. Which is good. Marc

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                    Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                    Figures. Probably pays better too. Unfortunately, I can't do that here in Jordan, the market is too small and you'd be hard pressed to find a job as a free lancer. Can't wait to finish my Msc.

                    "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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                    • M Mark Salsbery

                      Wow!  You mean Microsoft developers are just programmers and not gods? That's like somebody telling me Santa Claus isn't real. :rolleyes:

                      Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:

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                      DaveX86
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                      What do you mean?...Santa Claus is real...come on....

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                      • M Marc Clifton

                        The Wizard of Doze wrote:

                        Parting words for dear friends[^]

                        Why is it that when I read about people leaving Microsoft, it comes across like a priest leaving the church so he can have sex? Marc

                        Thyme In The Country
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                        code frog 0
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                        Because they are taking there ball and going home. I think it's lame. Glass house, glass rocks bah! It's all glass. I'm taking my ball and going home.:-D

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                        • M Mark Salsbery

                          Wow!  You mean Microsoft developers are just programmers and not gods? That's like somebody telling me Santa Claus isn't real. :rolleyes:

                          Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:

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                          code frog 0
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                          Mark Salsbery wrote:

                          You mean Microsoft developers are just programmers and not gods?

                          Wrong. They are gods who thought they were programmers.:cool:

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                            Wow... burned a few bridges I would say :)


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                            Gary R Wheeler
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                            I don't think so. His concerns sounded genuine, and weren't expressed in anger.


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                            • M Marc Clifton

                              The Wizard of Doze wrote:

                              Parting words for dear friends[^]

                              Why is it that when I read about people leaving Microsoft, it comes across like a priest leaving the church so he can have sex? Marc

                              Thyme In The Country
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                              Gary R Wheeler
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                              Dammit Marc, now I've got to clean coffee off my monitor. :laugh:


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                                What do you mean?...Santa Claus is real...come on....

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                                Mark Salsbery
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                                David Lockwood wrote:

                                Santa Claus is real...come on....

                                Exactly my point! :)

                                Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:

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                                  Mark Salsbery wrote:

                                  You mean Microsoft developers are just programmers and not gods?

                                  Wrong. They are gods who thought they were programmers.:cool:

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                                  Maybe in their own minds. I didn't read anything in that blog that didn't sound like a typical large software shop situation.  Some people aren't cut out for that - I know I never want to work for a large shop like that. Hopefully he'll move on to a situation that's a better fit. Just because it was Microsoft doesn't give his rantings any more significance IMO. That was my feeble point :) Mark

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                                    David Lockwood wrote:

                                    Santa Claus is real...come on....

                                    Exactly my point! :)

                                    Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:

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                                    DaveX86
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                                    Well, I keep seeing Santa's helpers at the mall so I think you're lying :P :)

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                                    • T The Wizard of Doze

                                      Parting words for dear friends[^]

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                                      More like "Parting shots for dear friends" :laugh:

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