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  • T The Wizard of Doze

    Parting words for dear friends[^]

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    Mark Salsbery
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    Wow!  You mean Microsoft developers are just programmers and not gods? That's like somebody telling me Santa Claus isn't real. :rolleyes:

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    • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

      Or like some guy that sobered up and came to his senses. I interned and worked with Microsoft when I was at University; 3 days later I was completely disillusioned.

      "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

      3 days later I was completely disillusioned.

      Well, anytime I've taken a fulltime job I get disillusioned in about 3 days. But for some reason, as a consultant, it takes far longer. Which is good. Marc

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        Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

        3 days later I was completely disillusioned.

        Well, anytime I've taken a fulltime job I get disillusioned in about 3 days. But for some reason, as a consultant, it takes far longer. Which is good. Marc

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        Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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        Figures. Probably pays better too. Unfortunately, I can't do that here in Jordan, the market is too small and you'd be hard pressed to find a job as a free lancer. Can't wait to finish my Msc.

        "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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        • M Mark Salsbery

          Wow!  You mean Microsoft developers are just programmers and not gods? That's like somebody telling me Santa Claus isn't real. :rolleyes:

          Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:

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          DaveX86
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          What do you mean?...Santa Claus is real...come on....

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            The Wizard of Doze wrote:

            Parting words for dear friends[^]

            Why is it that when I read about people leaving Microsoft, it comes across like a priest leaving the church so he can have sex? Marc

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            code frog 0
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            Because they are taking there ball and going home. I think it's lame. Glass house, glass rocks bah! It's all glass. I'm taking my ball and going home.:-D

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              Wow!  You mean Microsoft developers are just programmers and not gods? That's like somebody telling me Santa Claus isn't real. :rolleyes:

              Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:

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              code frog 0
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              Mark Salsbery wrote:

              You mean Microsoft developers are just programmers and not gods?

              Wrong. They are gods who thought they were programmers.:cool:

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                Wow... burned a few bridges I would say :)


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                Gary R Wheeler
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                I don't think so. His concerns sounded genuine, and weren't expressed in anger.


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                • M Marc Clifton

                  The Wizard of Doze wrote:

                  Parting words for dear friends[^]

                  Why is it that when I read about people leaving Microsoft, it comes across like a priest leaving the church so he can have sex? Marc

                  Thyme In The Country
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                  My Blog

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                  Gary R Wheeler
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                  Dammit Marc, now I've got to clean coffee off my monitor. :laugh:


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                    What do you mean?...Santa Claus is real...come on....

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                    David Lockwood wrote:

                    Santa Claus is real...come on....

                    Exactly my point! :)

                    Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:

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                      Mark Salsbery wrote:

                      You mean Microsoft developers are just programmers and not gods?

                      Wrong. They are gods who thought they were programmers.:cool:

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                      Maybe in their own minds. I didn't read anything in that blog that didn't sound like a typical large software shop situation.  Some people aren't cut out for that - I know I never want to work for a large shop like that. Hopefully he'll move on to a situation that's a better fit. Just because it was Microsoft doesn't give his rantings any more significance IMO. That was my feeble point :) Mark

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                        David Lockwood wrote:

                        Santa Claus is real...come on....

                        Exactly my point! :)

                        Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:

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                        DaveX86
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                        Well, I keep seeing Santa's helpers at the mall so I think you're lying :P :)

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                        • T The Wizard of Doze

                          Parting words for dear friends[^]

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                          More like "Parting shots for dear friends" :laugh:

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