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  • T The Wizard of Doze

    Parting words for dear friends[^]

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    "C# has already designed away most of the tedium of C++." ..and replaced it with a the new tedium of trying to find whereabouts in the framewrok the class you need has been hidden...?

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      "C# has already designed away most of the tedium of C++." ..and replaced it with a the new tedium of trying to find whereabouts in the framewrok the class you need has been hidden...?

      '--8<------------------------ Ex Datis: Duncan Jones Merrion Computing Ltd

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      Duncan Edwards Jones wrote:

      ..and replaced it with a the new tedium of trying to find whereabouts in the framewrok the class you need has been hidden...?

      ...only to find that it was implemented as a private, internal class and thus you must re-implement it from scratch anyway... :rolleyes:

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      ...the wind blows over it and it is gone, and its place remembers it no more...

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      • T The Wizard of Doze

        Parting words for dear friends[^]

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        Marc Clifton
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        The Wizard of Doze wrote:

        Parting words for dear friends[^]

        Why is it that when I read about people leaving Microsoft, it comes across like a priest leaving the church so he can have sex? Marc

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        • M Marc Clifton

          The Wizard of Doze wrote:

          Parting words for dear friends[^]

          Why is it that when I read about people leaving Microsoft, it comes across like a priest leaving the church so he can have sex? Marc

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          Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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          Or like some guy that sobered up and came to his senses. I interned and worked with Microsoft when I was at University; 3 days later I was completely disillusioned.

          "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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          • T The Wizard of Doze

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            Mark Salsbery
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            Wow!  You mean Microsoft developers are just programmers and not gods? That's like somebody telling me Santa Claus isn't real. :rolleyes:

            Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:

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              Or like some guy that sobered up and came to his senses. I interned and worked with Microsoft when I was at University; 3 days later I was completely disillusioned.

              "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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              Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

              3 days later I was completely disillusioned.

              Well, anytime I've taken a fulltime job I get disillusioned in about 3 days. But for some reason, as a consultant, it takes far longer. Which is good. Marc

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                Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                3 days later I was completely disillusioned.

                Well, anytime I've taken a fulltime job I get disillusioned in about 3 days. But for some reason, as a consultant, it takes far longer. Which is good. Marc

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                Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                Figures. Probably pays better too. Unfortunately, I can't do that here in Jordan, the market is too small and you'd be hard pressed to find a job as a free lancer. Can't wait to finish my Msc.

                "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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                • M Mark Salsbery

                  Wow!  You mean Microsoft developers are just programmers and not gods? That's like somebody telling me Santa Claus isn't real. :rolleyes:

                  Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:

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                  What do you mean?...Santa Claus is real...come on....

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                  • M Marc Clifton

                    The Wizard of Doze wrote:

                    Parting words for dear friends[^]

                    Why is it that when I read about people leaving Microsoft, it comes across like a priest leaving the church so he can have sex? Marc

                    Thyme In The Country
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                    code frog 0
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                    Because they are taking there ball and going home. I think it's lame. Glass house, glass rocks bah! It's all glass. I'm taking my ball and going home.:-D

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                    • M Mark Salsbery

                      Wow!  You mean Microsoft developers are just programmers and not gods? That's like somebody telling me Santa Claus isn't real. :rolleyes:

                      Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:

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                      Mark Salsbery wrote:

                      You mean Microsoft developers are just programmers and not gods?

                      Wrong. They are gods who thought they were programmers.:cool:

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                        Wow... burned a few bridges I would say :)


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                        Gary R Wheeler
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                        I don't think so. His concerns sounded genuine, and weren't expressed in anger.


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                        • M Marc Clifton

                          The Wizard of Doze wrote:

                          Parting words for dear friends[^]

                          Why is it that when I read about people leaving Microsoft, it comes across like a priest leaving the church so he can have sex? Marc

                          Thyme In The Country
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                          Gary R Wheeler
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                          Dammit Marc, now I've got to clean coffee off my monitor. :laugh:


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                            What do you mean?...Santa Claus is real...come on....

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                            David Lockwood wrote:

                            Santa Claus is real...come on....

                            Exactly my point! :)

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                              Mark Salsbery wrote:

                              You mean Microsoft developers are just programmers and not gods?

                              Wrong. They are gods who thought they were programmers.:cool:

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                              Mark Salsbery
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                              Maybe in their own minds. I didn't read anything in that blog that didn't sound like a typical large software shop situation.  Some people aren't cut out for that - I know I never want to work for a large shop like that. Hopefully he'll move on to a situation that's a better fit. Just because it was Microsoft doesn't give his rantings any more significance IMO. That was my feeble point :) Mark

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                                David Lockwood wrote:

                                Santa Claus is real...come on....

                                Exactly my point! :)

                                Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:

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                                Well, I keep seeing Santa's helpers at the mall so I think you're lying :P :)

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                                • T The Wizard of Doze

                                  Parting words for dear friends[^]

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                                  More like "Parting shots for dear friends" :laugh:

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