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  • L leppie

    Our division at work is being shutdown, and we were all given retrenchment letters. X|

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    Jim Crafton
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    Damn that sucks :( Is this immediate, or do you have a little time before it happens? What is the job climate like where you live?

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      Our division at work is being shutdown, and we were all given retrenchment letters. X|

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      Dalek Dave
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      Get looking immediately, before everyone else does! I wish you well and Good Luck. Been there before, not too pleasant :((

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      • L leppie

        Our division at work is being shutdown, and we were all given retrenchment letters. X|

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        Rama Krishna Vavilala
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        Sorry to hear that!:rose: I don't think that a brilliant developer like you should not have any problems finding a new better job.

        You have, what I would term, a very formal turn of phrase not seen in these isles since the old King passed from this world to the next. martin_hughes on VDK

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        • L leppie

          Our division at work is being shutdown, and we were all given retrenchment letters. X|

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          Peter Vertes
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          Sorry to hear that leppie but look on the bright side; you are going to get a new job that will hopefully be more stable and better then the one you are leaving. You are done with one chapter of your life so get ready to start another one. Good luck with your new endeavors ! Don't let this bring you down.

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          • L leppie

            Our division at work is being shutdown, and we were all given retrenchment letters. X|

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            Pete OHanlon
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            Oh that's bad. What options are open to you?

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            • J Jim Crafton

              Damn that sucks :( Is this immediate, or do you have a little time before it happens? What is the job climate like where you live?

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              leppie
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              Jim Crafton wrote:

              Is this immediate, or do you have a little time before it happens?

              Standard 1 month notice plus standard severence pay as described by the South African labour law.

              Jim Crafton wrote:

              What is the job climate like where you live?

              Pretty good I think, as we couldnt even find a decent person to employ for the last 9 months. That is part of the reason of the shutdown, the lack of expanding our resource capabilities. The standard of people that we did interview, was so poor, I would reckon it would not be too hard finding something new. :)

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              • L leppie

                Our division at work is being shutdown, and we were all given retrenchment letters. X|

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                Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                That sucks bro. Seriously. I'm sure you'll have no problems getting another better job :) Best of luck in every case bro :)

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                • L leppie

                  Our division at work is being shutdown, and we were all given retrenchment letters. X|

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                  code frog 0
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                  Having had this happen to me in a period of my life where there is just no way I could recover at all from it. I get very angry and sad to hear these things. The working people get let go and companies are too stupid to realize it's the "middle managers" that are the reason they are where they are at. It's a total shame and whenever I hear of this I just wish the companies would conduct their lay-off from the top to the middle and leave the people at the bottom (who actually make the money) alone. It's just so sad and terrible.:rose:

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                  • L leppie

                    Jim Crafton wrote:

                    Is this immediate, or do you have a little time before it happens?

                    Standard 1 month notice plus standard severence pay as described by the South African labour law.

                    Jim Crafton wrote:

                    What is the job climate like where you live?

                    Pretty good I think, as we couldnt even find a decent person to employ for the last 9 months. That is part of the reason of the shutdown, the lack of expanding our resource capabilities. The standard of people that we did interview, was so poor, I would reckon it would not be too hard finding something new. :)

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                    Dalek Dave
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                    I feel I must draw your attention to a news item in today's Daily Telegraph in UK. Generally a lot of firms are looking abroad for Graduates and Techies, because most of the younger people coming out of University have not got the skills or experience to do the jobs available. They exit with a degree and cannot spell, write legibly or have even rudimentary maths skills! I remember having knuckles rapped with a ruler if I mis-spelt a word(They had Corporal Punishment in MY day!) The point I am making is have you tried working in UK? Always a need for bright young things given the morons pouring from our universities (Apologies for the Non Moronic UK University Educated on this Site, but we all know Media Studies is a load of old b#*#*#*ks!). :)

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                      I feel I must draw your attention to a news item in today's Daily Telegraph in UK. Generally a lot of firms are looking abroad for Graduates and Techies, because most of the younger people coming out of University have not got the skills or experience to do the jobs available. They exit with a degree and cannot spell, write legibly or have even rudimentary maths skills! I remember having knuckles rapped with a ruler if I mis-spelt a word(They had Corporal Punishment in MY day!) The point I am making is have you tried working in UK? Always a need for bright young things given the morons pouring from our universities (Apologies for the Non Moronic UK University Educated on this Site, but we all know Media Studies is a load of old b#*#*#*ks!). :)

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                      leppie
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                      Dalek Dave wrote:

                      The point I am making is have you tried working in UK?

                      Been there, done that, hate London with a passion ;P I might be interested to go to the states though.

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                      • D Dalek Dave

                        I feel I must draw your attention to a news item in today's Daily Telegraph in UK. Generally a lot of firms are looking abroad for Graduates and Techies, because most of the younger people coming out of University have not got the skills or experience to do the jobs available. They exit with a degree and cannot spell, write legibly or have even rudimentary maths skills! I remember having knuckles rapped with a ruler if I mis-spelt a word(They had Corporal Punishment in MY day!) The point I am making is have you tried working in UK? Always a need for bright young things given the morons pouring from our universities (Apologies for the Non Moronic UK University Educated on this Site, but we all know Media Studies is a load of old b#*#*#*ks!). :)

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                        MidwestLimey
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                        Dalek Dave wrote:

                        The point I am making is have you tried working in UK?

                        If I didn't have to sell a kidney for a house down payment, I'd be interested in returning to ol' blighty. My sister's two bedroom flat cost twice as much as my three bedroom house, detached with two car garage naturally, being the midwest. Something is just wrong there.


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                        • C code frog 0

                          Having had this happen to me in a period of my life where there is just no way I could recover at all from it. I get very angry and sad to hear these things. The working people get let go and companies are too stupid to realize it's the "middle managers" that are the reason they are where they are at. It's a total shame and whenever I hear of this I just wish the companies would conduct their lay-off from the top to the middle and leave the people at the bottom (who actually make the money) alone. It's just so sad and terrible.:rose:

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                          leppie
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                          It's nobody's fault really, our business engine just didnt run as smooth as we hoped for, and together with some other factors, it made business-sense to do what they did.

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                          • L leppie

                            Jim Crafton wrote:

                            Is this immediate, or do you have a little time before it happens?

                            Standard 1 month notice plus standard severence pay as described by the South African labour law.

                            Jim Crafton wrote:

                            What is the job climate like where you live?

                            Pretty good I think, as we couldnt even find a decent person to employ for the last 9 months. That is part of the reason of the shutdown, the lack of expanding our resource capabilities. The standard of people that we did interview, was so poor, I would reckon it would not be too hard finding something new. :)

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                            MidwestLimey
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                            leppie wrote:

                            Pretty good I think, as we couldnt even find a decent person to employ for the last 9 months. That is part of the reason of the shutdown, the lack of expanding our resource capabilities. The standard of people that we did interview, was so poor, I would reckon it would not be too hard finding something new.

                            Same here, it makes me feel quite comfortable in my employability. That and the constant call from recruiters :D On the bright side, it sounds like you've got a month long paid job search.


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                            After a while they all bug me :doh:


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                            • L leppie

                              Our division at work is being shutdown, and we were all given retrenchment letters. X|

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                              Rajesh R Subramanian
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                              Sorry to hear that. :( But you're a good Developer. You shouldn't have a problem finding a better job. I wish you good luck for that. Do let us know after you join your new job. :)

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                              • L leppie

                                Our division at work is being shutdown, and we were all given retrenchment letters. X|

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                                Paul Watson
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                                Ah crap, sorry mate. Want a job in Ireland? We could do with a good coder like you.

                                regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                                  Ah crap, sorry mate. Want a job in Ireland? We could do with a good coder like you.

                                  regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                                  leppie
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                                  Paul Watson wrote:

                                  Want a job in Ireland?

                                  Ireland might be an option, I remember 8 years back it was quite booming there, what is it like now?

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                                  • L leppie

                                    Paul Watson wrote:

                                    Want a job in Ireland?

                                    Ireland might be an option, I remember 8 years back it was quite booming there, what is it like now?

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                                    Paul Watson
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                                    Loads of programming jobs. Some crazies invested $30million into an Irish "social networking" this week so they will be hiring. Microsoft, Google, Oracle etc. are all in Dublin and hiring. Facebook might be here soon too (not that I'd want a job with them.) Manufacturing and construction jobs are tanking though. Thankfully you, nor I, are brick layers.

                                    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                                      Loads of programming jobs. Some crazies invested $30million into an Irish "social networking" this week so they will be hiring. Microsoft, Google, Oracle etc. are all in Dublin and hiring. Facebook might be here soon too (not that I'd want a job with them.) Manufacturing and construction jobs are tanking though. Thankfully you, nor I, are brick layers.

                                      regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                                      leppie
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                                      Paul Watson wrote:

                                      Loads of programming jobs.

                                      Can you recommend some reputable employment agencies?

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                                      • L leppie

                                        Jim Crafton wrote:

                                        Is this immediate, or do you have a little time before it happens?

                                        Standard 1 month notice plus standard severence pay as described by the South African labour law.

                                        Jim Crafton wrote:

                                        What is the job climate like where you live?

                                        Pretty good I think, as we couldnt even find a decent person to employ for the last 9 months. That is part of the reason of the shutdown, the lack of expanding our resource capabilities. The standard of people that we did interview, was so poor, I would reckon it would not be too hard finding something new. :)

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                                        Where do you work in SA?

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                                        • M MidwestLimey

                                          Dalek Dave wrote:

                                          The point I am making is have you tried working in UK?

                                          If I didn't have to sell a kidney for a house down payment, I'd be interested in returning to ol' blighty. My sister's two bedroom flat cost twice as much as my three bedroom house, detached with two car garage naturally, being the midwest. Something is just wrong there.


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                                          After a while they all bug me :doh:


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                                          Miszou
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                                          MidwestLimey wrote:

                                          If I didn't have to sell a kidney for a house down payment, I'd be interested in returning to ol' blighty. My sister's two bedroom flat cost twice as much as my three bedroom house, detached with two car garage naturally, being the midwest. Something is just wrong there.

                                          Heh, so true. I have a 4 bedroom house on 1.5 acres of land and my family thinks I'm absolutely loaded with money. It's not that I'm loaded (far from it!) it's just that your money can actually buy things in America.

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