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  • L leppie

    Our division at work is being shutdown, and we were all given retrenchment letters. X|

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    code frog 0
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    Having had this happen to me in a period of my life where there is just no way I could recover at all from it. I get very angry and sad to hear these things. The working people get let go and companies are too stupid to realize it's the "middle managers" that are the reason they are where they are at. It's a total shame and whenever I hear of this I just wish the companies would conduct their lay-off from the top to the middle and leave the people at the bottom (who actually make the money) alone. It's just so sad and terrible.:rose:

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    • L leppie

      Jim Crafton wrote:

      Is this immediate, or do you have a little time before it happens?

      Standard 1 month notice plus standard severence pay as described by the South African labour law.

      Jim Crafton wrote:

      What is the job climate like where you live?

      Pretty good I think, as we couldnt even find a decent person to employ for the last 9 months. That is part of the reason of the shutdown, the lack of expanding our resource capabilities. The standard of people that we did interview, was so poor, I would reckon it would not be too hard finding something new. :)

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      I feel I must draw your attention to a news item in today's Daily Telegraph in UK. Generally a lot of firms are looking abroad for Graduates and Techies, because most of the younger people coming out of University have not got the skills or experience to do the jobs available. They exit with a degree and cannot spell, write legibly or have even rudimentary maths skills! I remember having knuckles rapped with a ruler if I mis-spelt a word(They had Corporal Punishment in MY day!) The point I am making is have you tried working in UK? Always a need for bright young things given the morons pouring from our universities (Apologies for the Non Moronic UK University Educated on this Site, but we all know Media Studies is a load of old b#*#*#*ks!). :)

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        I feel I must draw your attention to a news item in today's Daily Telegraph in UK. Generally a lot of firms are looking abroad for Graduates and Techies, because most of the younger people coming out of University have not got the skills or experience to do the jobs available. They exit with a degree and cannot spell, write legibly or have even rudimentary maths skills! I remember having knuckles rapped with a ruler if I mis-spelt a word(They had Corporal Punishment in MY day!) The point I am making is have you tried working in UK? Always a need for bright young things given the morons pouring from our universities (Apologies for the Non Moronic UK University Educated on this Site, but we all know Media Studies is a load of old b#*#*#*ks!). :)

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        leppie
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        Dalek Dave wrote:

        The point I am making is have you tried working in UK?

        Been there, done that, hate London with a passion ;P I might be interested to go to the states though.

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          I feel I must draw your attention to a news item in today's Daily Telegraph in UK. Generally a lot of firms are looking abroad for Graduates and Techies, because most of the younger people coming out of University have not got the skills or experience to do the jobs available. They exit with a degree and cannot spell, write legibly or have even rudimentary maths skills! I remember having knuckles rapped with a ruler if I mis-spelt a word(They had Corporal Punishment in MY day!) The point I am making is have you tried working in UK? Always a need for bright young things given the morons pouring from our universities (Apologies for the Non Moronic UK University Educated on this Site, but we all know Media Studies is a load of old b#*#*#*ks!). :)

          ------------------------------------ I try to appear cooler, by calling him Euler.

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          MidwestLimey
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          Dalek Dave wrote:

          The point I am making is have you tried working in UK?

          If I didn't have to sell a kidney for a house down payment, I'd be interested in returning to ol' blighty. My sister's two bedroom flat cost twice as much as my three bedroom house, detached with two car garage naturally, being the midwest. Something is just wrong there.


          I'm largely language agnostic


          After a while they all bug me :doh:


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          • C code frog 0

            Having had this happen to me in a period of my life where there is just no way I could recover at all from it. I get very angry and sad to hear these things. The working people get let go and companies are too stupid to realize it's the "middle managers" that are the reason they are where they are at. It's a total shame and whenever I hear of this I just wish the companies would conduct their lay-off from the top to the middle and leave the people at the bottom (who actually make the money) alone. It's just so sad and terrible.:rose:

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            leppie
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            It's nobody's fault really, our business engine just didnt run as smooth as we hoped for, and together with some other factors, it made business-sense to do what they did.

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            • L leppie

              Jim Crafton wrote:

              Is this immediate, or do you have a little time before it happens?

              Standard 1 month notice plus standard severence pay as described by the South African labour law.

              Jim Crafton wrote:

              What is the job climate like where you live?

              Pretty good I think, as we couldnt even find a decent person to employ for the last 9 months. That is part of the reason of the shutdown, the lack of expanding our resource capabilities. The standard of people that we did interview, was so poor, I would reckon it would not be too hard finding something new. :)

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              MidwestLimey
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              leppie wrote:

              Pretty good I think, as we couldnt even find a decent person to employ for the last 9 months. That is part of the reason of the shutdown, the lack of expanding our resource capabilities. The standard of people that we did interview, was so poor, I would reckon it would not be too hard finding something new.

              Same here, it makes me feel quite comfortable in my employability. That and the constant call from recruiters :D On the bright side, it sounds like you've got a month long paid job search.


              I'm largely language agnostic


              After a while they all bug me :doh:


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              • L leppie

                Our division at work is being shutdown, and we were all given retrenchment letters. X|

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                Rajesh R Subramanian
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                Sorry to hear that. :( But you're a good Developer. You shouldn't have a problem finding a better job. I wish you good luck for that. Do let us know after you join your new job. :)

                Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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                • L leppie

                  Our division at work is being shutdown, and we were all given retrenchment letters. X|

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                  Paul Watson
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                  Ah crap, sorry mate. Want a job in Ireland? We could do with a good coder like you.

                  regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                  Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                  At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                    Ah crap, sorry mate. Want a job in Ireland? We could do with a good coder like you.

                    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                    Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                    At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                    leppie
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                    Paul Watson wrote:

                    Want a job in Ireland?

                    Ireland might be an option, I remember 8 years back it was quite booming there, what is it like now?

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                    • L leppie

                      Paul Watson wrote:

                      Want a job in Ireland?

                      Ireland might be an option, I remember 8 years back it was quite booming there, what is it like now?

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                      Paul Watson
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                      Loads of programming jobs. Some crazies invested $30million into an Irish "social networking" this week so they will be hiring. Microsoft, Google, Oracle etc. are all in Dublin and hiring. Facebook might be here soon too (not that I'd want a job with them.) Manufacturing and construction jobs are tanking though. Thankfully you, nor I, are brick layers.

                      regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                      Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                      At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                      • P Paul Watson

                        Loads of programming jobs. Some crazies invested $30million into an Irish "social networking" this week so they will be hiring. Microsoft, Google, Oracle etc. are all in Dublin and hiring. Facebook might be here soon too (not that I'd want a job with them.) Manufacturing and construction jobs are tanking though. Thankfully you, nor I, are brick layers.

                        regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                        At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                        leppie
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                        Paul Watson wrote:

                        Loads of programming jobs.

                        Can you recommend some reputable employment agencies?

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                        • L leppie

                          Jim Crafton wrote:

                          Is this immediate, or do you have a little time before it happens?

                          Standard 1 month notice plus standard severence pay as described by the South African labour law.

                          Jim Crafton wrote:

                          What is the job climate like where you live?

                          Pretty good I think, as we couldnt even find a decent person to employ for the last 9 months. That is part of the reason of the shutdown, the lack of expanding our resource capabilities. The standard of people that we did interview, was so poor, I would reckon it would not be too hard finding something new. :)

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                          Where do you work in SA?

                          Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                          • M MidwestLimey

                            Dalek Dave wrote:

                            The point I am making is have you tried working in UK?

                            If I didn't have to sell a kidney for a house down payment, I'd be interested in returning to ol' blighty. My sister's two bedroom flat cost twice as much as my three bedroom house, detached with two car garage naturally, being the midwest. Something is just wrong there.


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                            After a while they all bug me :doh:


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                            Miszou
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                            MidwestLimey wrote:

                            If I didn't have to sell a kidney for a house down payment, I'd be interested in returning to ol' blighty. My sister's two bedroom flat cost twice as much as my three bedroom house, detached with two car garage naturally, being the midwest. Something is just wrong there.

                            Heh, so true. I have a 4 bedroom house on 1.5 acres of land and my family thinks I'm absolutely loaded with money. It's not that I'm loaded (far from it!) it's just that your money can actually buy things in America.

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                            • L leppie

                              Paul Watson wrote:

                              Loads of programming jobs.

                              Can you recommend some reputable employment agencies?

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                              Paul Watson
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                              leppie wrote:

                              reputable employment agencies

                              A what? Reputable employment aggggeee... ah jeez, I just can't say that without dying from laughter. ;) I got my job through a friend and we don't use employment agencies to hire new slaves. irishjobs.ie[^] is supposed to be a decent job site here. Not really used it myself though. I'll ask around and see who others have used.

                              regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                              Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                              At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                              • L leppie

                                Our division at work is being shutdown, and we were all given retrenchment letters. X|

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                                Vikram A Punathambekar
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                                I am sorry to hear that :( I hope you find another job soon :rose:

                                Cheers, Vikram.


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                                • L leppie

                                  Our division at work is being shutdown, and we were all given retrenchment letters. X|

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                                  Lost User
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                                  Good luck and try to look it as an opportunity (yeah, I don't fall for that one either). :rose:

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                                  • L leppie

                                    Our division at work is being shutdown, and we were all given retrenchment letters. X|

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                                    Jon Sagara
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                                    Sorry to hear that, leppie. Best of luck on the job search. :rose:

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                                    • M Miszou

                                      MidwestLimey wrote:

                                      If I didn't have to sell a kidney for a house down payment, I'd be interested in returning to ol' blighty. My sister's two bedroom flat cost twice as much as my three bedroom house, detached with two car garage naturally, being the midwest. Something is just wrong there.

                                      Heh, so true. I have a 4 bedroom house on 1.5 acres of land and my family thinks I'm absolutely loaded with money. It's not that I'm loaded (far from it!) it's just that your money can actually buy things in America.

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                                      Dan Neely
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                                      If you really want to blow their minds send them real estate links from somewhere way out in the boonies where a decent older house and a few dozen acres of land can go for $50kish. :laugh:

                                      Otherwise [Microsoft is] toast in the long term no matter how much money they've got. They would be already if the Linux community didn't have it's head so firmly up it's own command line buffer that it looks like taking 15 years to find the desktop. -- Matthew Faithfull

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                                      • L leppie

                                        Dalek Dave wrote:

                                        The point I am making is have you tried working in UK?

                                        Been there, done that, hate London with a passion ;P I might be interested to go to the states though.

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                                        Lost User
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                                        leppie wrote:

                                        Been there, done that, hate London with a passionI might be interested to go to the states though.

                                        How about Oz? at least you can still watch the cricket and rugby here :)

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                                          leppie wrote:

                                          Been there, done that, hate London with a passionI might be interested to go to the states though.

                                          How about Oz? at least you can still watch the cricket and rugby here :)

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                                          Ashley van Gerven
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                                          Josh Gray wrote:

                                          still watch the cricket and rugby here

                                          And there are plenty of South African's here already... might add to the appeal too.

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