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  • C Chris Maunder

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    Shog9 0
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    Hmm... Now, where's the option to order it on floppies...

    But who is the king of all of these folks?

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      http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/Microsoft_Windows_Vista_32bit/1149728719/1[^]

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      On the same site, they just ran the following story from Microsoft too ... Why you can't have Vista SP1 yet: Microsoft fixing driver problem[^] But hey, I'm sure it's fine . . . :~


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      • C Chris Maunder

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        I wouldnt be surprised if it simply contains a whole new copy of the OS!

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        • C Chris Maunder

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          El Corazon
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          Chris Maunder wrote:

          File Size: 1,200,000 KB

          hehehe, well, I regularly download DVD images of OS's. and I can pull a good 500 meg a week keeping fedora updated with everything installed on it. :-D

          _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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          • C Chris Maunder

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            Dan Neely
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            The standalone version is internationalized, which means it includes 30+ languages of bloat. The windows update smart download will be substantially smaller.

            Otherwise [Microsoft is] toast in the long term no matter how much money they've got. They would be already if the Linux community didn't have it's head so firmly up it's own command line buffer that it looks like taking 15 years to find the desktop. -- Matthew Faithfull

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            • D Douglas Troy

              On the same site, they just ran the following story from Microsoft too ... Why you can't have Vista SP1 yet: Microsoft fixing driver problem[^] But hey, I'm sure it's fine . . . :~


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              It's like SQL and VS SP. It is about the same size as the product itself. Where's that dependancy hell fix-up they promised? Oh, it is no longer in binary space, but in bloat compatability (that's got to be topping the all time high). Sure, an advance over fragility, but at that cost you have to be wondering where did all the modularity vanish.

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                It's like SQL and VS SP. It is about the same size as the product itself. Where's that dependancy hell fix-up they promised? Oh, it is no longer in binary space, but in bloat compatability (that's got to be topping the all time high). Sure, an advance over fragility, but at that cost you have to be wondering where did all the modularity vanish.

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                User of Users Group wrote:

                Oh, it is no longer in binary space, but in bloat compatability (that's got to be topping the all time high). Sure, an advance over fragility, but at that cost you have to be wondering where did all the modularity vanish.

                AFAIK, they realized at some point that, while clever and efficient in the most common cases, "patches" - that is, sending only compressed binary diffs of only the files that should have changed - would break horribly on edge cases where earlier patches or hot-fixes had already been applied, or optional features had been left uninstalled, or... So now it's brute-force all the way. Bandwidth is cheap, right? :-\

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                  http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/Microsoft_Windows_Vista_32bit/1149728719/1[^]

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                  Todd Smith
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                  Good thing IE7 has a built in download manager with resume capability...oh wait.

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                  • C Chris Maunder

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                    Marc Clifton
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                    Yeah, that was my reaction. I've only got 9G left on this hard drive! Marc

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                      User of Users Group wrote:

                      Oh, it is no longer in binary space, but in bloat compatability (that's got to be topping the all time high). Sure, an advance over fragility, but at that cost you have to be wondering where did all the modularity vanish.

                      AFAIK, they realized at some point that, while clever and efficient in the most common cases, "patches" - that is, sending only compressed binary diffs of only the files that should have changed - would break horribly on edge cases where earlier patches or hot-fixes had already been applied, or optional features had been left uninstalled, or... So now it's brute-force all the way. Bandwidth is cheap, right? :-\

                      A lot of us Indians are Aryans, but I googled for Aryan Nation and found some racist swine.

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                      Ok, this is fist time I am hearing it vaguely confirmed..thanks Shog. So they dumped the patch method? I guess it tallies with my experience that Vista was pretty much clueless on the order of updates for over a year. In fact it was getting consistently confused on the update process. And surely, by the statistics they collect on all known to mankind software installs and log upstreams to their servers, they should be able to figure out 'earlier' vs 'later'. Those DBs must be massive, and we all fill them up ;-) Yeah I'd say bandwidth is getting cheap (only a few countries in Europe really lead the way, France being one), but at what cost (privacy, government involvment in ISP laws, etc.)

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                        Marc Clifton
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                        I'm supposed to trust a SP from a beta news site? Where's the release from an official Microsoft website? Marc

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                          http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/Microsoft_Windows_Vista_32bit/1149728719/1[^]

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                          The 64-bit download is very outdated, they list it as RC2 Build 5744!!


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                            Hmm... Now, where's the option to order it on floppies...

                            But who is the king of all of these folks?

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                            Nemanja Trifunovic
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                            Shog9 wrote:

                            where's the option to order it on floppies...

                            The 5.25" ones?

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                              Shog9 wrote:

                              where's the option to order it on floppies...

                              The 5.25" ones?

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                              No, 8". Vista does support those, right? :suss:

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                                http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/Microsoft_Windows_Vista_32bit/1149728719/1[^]

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                                Mircea Grelus
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                                There's no final SP release yet. That link points to an OEM website and the download isn't available, and no word of release from official MS sites.

                                Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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                                  No, 8". Vista does support those, right? :suss:

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                                  Yes; once Microsoft gets the SP1 driver problems fixed, you should have no problems. Let's see now, 8" floppies, that'll be like, 900,000+ of those, with a gross weight of like 1.4 tons, stuffed into about 423,000 boxes, using 120,000 yards of bubble wrap (non-static kind, of course), shipped via UPS nextday air . . . So ... that'll be like, 2.53 million in shipping and handling charges. Shog, we're gonna need a valid Credit Card number please, and a doctor's note that says your not completely insane. Oh wait, you're running Vista ... ok, never mind on that doctor's note thing ... just the CC number ... and 12 forms of I.D. :rolleyes:


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                                    Yes; once Microsoft gets the SP1 driver problems fixed, you should have no problems. Let's see now, 8" floppies, that'll be like, 900,000+ of those, with a gross weight of like 1.4 tons, stuffed into about 423,000 boxes, using 120,000 yards of bubble wrap (non-static kind, of course), shipped via UPS nextday air . . . So ... that'll be like, 2.53 million in shipping and handling charges. Shog, we're gonna need a valid Credit Card number please, and a doctor's note that says your not completely insane. Oh wait, you're running Vista ... ok, never mind on that doctor's note thing ... just the CC number ... and 12 forms of I.D. :rolleyes:


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                                    Douglas Troy wrote:

                                    Oh wait, you're running Vista ... ok, never mind on that doctor's note thing ... just the CC number ... and 12 forms of I.D.

                                    :-D Do they all need to have the same name on them...? ;P

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                                      Douglas Troy wrote:

                                      Oh wait, you're running Vista ... ok, never mind on that doctor's note thing ... just the CC number ... and 12 forms of I.D.

                                      :-D Do they all need to have the same name on them...? ;P

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                                      Shog9 wrote:

                                      Do they all need to have the same name on them

                                      :rolleyes:


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                                        Shog9 wrote:

                                        where's the option to order it on floppies...

                                        The 5.25" ones?

                                        Programming Blog utf8-cpp

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                                        Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

                                        The 5.25" ones?

                                        8 inch

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                                          Douglas Troy wrote:

                                          Oh wait, you're running Vista ... ok, never mind on that doctor's note thing ... just the CC number ... and 12 forms of I.D.

                                          :-D Do they all need to have the same name on them...? ;P

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                                          :laugh::laugh:

                                          "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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