Vista Service Pack 1 has arrived
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It's like SQL and VS SP. It is about the same size as the product itself. Where's that dependancy hell fix-up they promised? Oh, it is no longer in binary space, but in bloat compatability (that's got to be topping the all time high). Sure, an advance over fragility, but at that cost you have to be wondering where did all the modularity vanish.
User of Users Group wrote:
Oh, it is no longer in binary space, but in bloat compatability (that's got to be topping the all time high). Sure, an advance over fragility, but at that cost you have to be wondering where did all the modularity vanish.
AFAIK, they realized at some point that, while clever and efficient in the most common cases, "patches" - that is, sending only compressed binary diffs of only the files that should have changed - would break horribly on edge cases where earlier patches or hot-fixes had already been applied, or optional features had been left uninstalled, or... So now it's brute-force all the way. Bandwidth is cheap, right? :-\
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xacc.ide - now with IronScheme support
IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 1 out nowGood thing IE7 has a built in download manager with resume capability...oh wait.
Todd Smith
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Yeah, that was my reaction. I've only got 9G left on this hard drive! Marc
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User of Users Group wrote:
Oh, it is no longer in binary space, but in bloat compatability (that's got to be topping the all time high). Sure, an advance over fragility, but at that cost you have to be wondering where did all the modularity vanish.
AFAIK, they realized at some point that, while clever and efficient in the most common cases, "patches" - that is, sending only compressed binary diffs of only the files that should have changed - would break horribly on edge cases where earlier patches or hot-fixes had already been applied, or optional features had been left uninstalled, or... So now it's brute-force all the way. Bandwidth is cheap, right? :-\
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Ok, this is fist time I am hearing it vaguely confirmed..thanks Shog. So they dumped the patch method? I guess it tallies with my experience that Vista was pretty much clueless on the order of updates for over a year. In fact it was getting consistently confused on the update process. And surely, by the statistics they collect on all known to mankind software installs and log upstreams to their servers, they should be able to figure out 'earlier' vs 'later'. Those DBs must be massive, and we all fill them up ;-) Yeah I'd say bandwidth is getting cheap (only a few countries in Europe really lead the way, France being one), but at what cost (privacy, government involvment in ISP laws, etc.)
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xacc.ide - now with IronScheme support
IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 1 out nowI'm supposed to trust a SP from a beta news site? Where's the release from an official Microsoft website? Marc
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xacc.ide - now with IronScheme support
IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 1 out nowThe 64-bit download is very outdated, they list it as RC2 Build 5744!!
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Hmm... Now, where's the option to order it on floppies...
But who is the king of all of these folks?
Shog9 wrote:
where's the option to order it on floppies...
The 5.25" ones?
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Shog9 wrote:
where's the option to order it on floppies...
The 5.25" ones?
No, 8". Vista does support those, right? :suss:
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xacc.ide - now with IronScheme support
IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 1 out nowThere's no final SP release yet. That link points to an OEM website and the download isn't available, and no word of release from official MS sites.
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No, 8". Vista does support those, right? :suss:
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Yes; once Microsoft gets the SP1 driver problems fixed, you should have no problems. Let's see now, 8" floppies, that'll be like, 900,000+ of those, with a gross weight of like 1.4 tons, stuffed into about 423,000 boxes, using 120,000 yards of bubble wrap (non-static kind, of course), shipped via UPS nextday air . . . So ... that'll be like, 2.53 million in shipping and handling charges. Shog, we're gonna need a valid Credit Card number please, and a doctor's note that says your not completely insane. Oh wait, you're running Vista ... ok, never mind on that doctor's note thing ... just the CC number ... and 12 forms of I.D. :rolleyes:
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Yes; once Microsoft gets the SP1 driver problems fixed, you should have no problems. Let's see now, 8" floppies, that'll be like, 900,000+ of those, with a gross weight of like 1.4 tons, stuffed into about 423,000 boxes, using 120,000 yards of bubble wrap (non-static kind, of course), shipped via UPS nextday air . . . So ... that'll be like, 2.53 million in shipping and handling charges. Shog, we're gonna need a valid Credit Card number please, and a doctor's note that says your not completely insane. Oh wait, you're running Vista ... ok, never mind on that doctor's note thing ... just the CC number ... and 12 forms of I.D. :rolleyes:
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Bad Astronomy |VCF|wxWidgets|WTLDouglas Troy wrote:
Oh wait, you're running Vista ... ok, never mind on that doctor's note thing ... just the CC number ... and 12 forms of I.D.
:-D Do they all need to have the same name on them...? ;P
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Douglas Troy wrote:
Oh wait, you're running Vista ... ok, never mind on that doctor's note thing ... just the CC number ... and 12 forms of I.D.
:-D Do they all need to have the same name on them...? ;P
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Shog9 wrote:
Do they all need to have the same name on them
:rolleyes:
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Shog9 wrote:
where's the option to order it on floppies...
The 5.25" ones?
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Douglas Troy wrote:
Oh wait, you're running Vista ... ok, never mind on that doctor's note thing ... just the CC number ... and 12 forms of I.D.
:-D Do they all need to have the same name on them...? ;P
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:laugh::laugh:
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xacc.ide - now with IronScheme support
IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 1 out nowThe release notes for Vista SP1 Release Candidate on MS's site says the file size is about 550 MB for the standalone all-languages version and 450 MB for the standalone version with 5 languages. (can anyone who downloaded a SP1 RC confirm this?) I don't think the file size changed that much between RC and RTM. I'm not sure what that file is, but it's not an officially released version. EDIT: According to a comment there, the file contains both the 32bit and 64bit version of the SP1 (that's why it's so large). It's not officially released, but Beta testers and OEMs already got the SP1 RTM, looks like one of them leaked the file to betanews. I'll wait for the official download from Microsoft's website.
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I'm supposed to trust a SP from a beta news site? Where's the release from an official Microsoft website? Marc
Marc Clifton wrote:
Where's the release from an official Microsoft website?
Slashdot's too busy trying to figure out the fake conspiracy behind the Microsoft v Yahoo acquisition to report important news like this. Please don't panic.
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Wow.... I guess I won't be downloading that, then.
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xacc.ide - now with IronScheme support
IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 1 out nowFrom here: Windows Server 2008 + Vista SP1 RTM[^] Microsoft announced yesterday that Windows Server 2008 has reached RTM. The 64 bit version is available right now on MSDN with the 32 bit to follow. Vista SP1 as also reached RTM and will be widely available (MSDN, Windows Update, Download Center) on March 18th.
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Wow.... I guess I won't be downloading that, then.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )
piker. I've DLed larger data sets than that over a 56k modem.
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