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  • M martin_hughes

    No, not Pete's newest invention (that's Sarcasm.NET, which supersedes CausticRetort.NET), but Irony.NET[^] has anybody used it? If so, what do you think?

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    Jim Crafton
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    He lost me at: "Unlike most existing yacc/lex-style solutions Irony does not employ any scanner or parser code generation from grammar specifications written in proprietary meta-language. " What?!? Since when is the BNF/EBNF form used by yacc/lex and variants "proprietary"? What he's describing smells a lot like Spirit[^] And finally it's a stupid name. "Irony"? Please, puhhhlease give your project some meaningful name, not just random nouns/verbs/adjectives etc. Gahhh! So once I can get past all that, I guess I might be interested in it, I suppose.

    ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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    • M martin_hughes

      No, not Pete's newest invention (that's Sarcasm.NET, which supersedes CausticRetort.NET), but Irony.NET[^] has anybody used it? If so, what do you think?

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      Paul Conrad
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      martin_hughes wrote:

      has anybody used it?

      No. It does look very interesting, though.

      "I guess it's what separates the professionals from the drag and drop, girly wirly, namby pamby, wishy washy, can't code for crap types." - Pete O'Hanlon

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      • M martin_hughes

        No, not Pete's newest invention (that's Sarcasm.NET, which supersedes CausticRetort.NET), but Irony.NET[^] has anybody used it? If so, what do you think?

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        Maximilien
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        What next ? Ironing.NET ? Your code is as flat as possible.

        Maximilien Lincourt Your Head A Splode - Strong Bad

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        • M martin_hughes

          Yep, and a Bronzy.Net and Goldy.Net too :)

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          Paul Conrad
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          How about Platinumy.NET :-\

          "I guess it's what separates the professionals from the drag and drop, girly wirly, namby pamby, wishy washy, can't code for crap types." - Pete O'Hanlon

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          • M Maximilien

            What next ? Ironing.NET ? Your code is as flat as possible.

            Maximilien Lincourt Your Head A Splode - Strong Bad

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            Jim Crafton
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            Boudoir.Net - make you code really "Hot"!

            ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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            • M Maximilien

              What next ? Ironing.NET ? Your code is as flat as possible.

              Maximilien Lincourt Your Head A Splode - Strong Bad

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              Dan Neely
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              Nantucket.net Is the best thing yet When you code in Nantucket While Sitting on a bucket Because you lost a bet

              Otherwise [Microsoft is] toast in the long term no matter how much money they've got. They would be already if the Linux community didn't have it's head so firmly up it's own command line buffer that it looks like taking 15 years to find the desktop. -- Matthew Faithfull

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              • M Maximilien

                What next ? Ironing.NET ? Your code is as flat as possible.

                Maximilien Lincourt Your Head A Splode - Strong Bad

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                snorkie
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                For $19.95 you'll get not one, but TWO Ironing.TV frameworks. For those than can count that 1 for each hand! Call in the next 5 minutes and get free shipping! Hogan

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                • M martin_hughes

                  No, not Pete's newest invention (that's Sarcasm.NET, which supersedes CausticRetort.NET), but Irony.NET[^] has anybody used it? If so, what do you think?

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                  leppie
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                  damnet! ;P

                  xacc.ide - now with IronScheme support
                  IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 2 out now

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                  • D Dan Neely

                    Nantucket.net Is the best thing yet When you code in Nantucket While Sitting on a bucket Because you lost a bet

                    Otherwise [Microsoft is] toast in the long term no matter how much money they've got. They would be already if the Linux community didn't have it's head so firmly up it's own command line buffer that it looks like taking 15 years to find the desktop. -- Matthew Faithfull

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                    El Corazon
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                    dan neely wrote:

                    Nantucket.net

                    There was a lady from nantucket dot net .... just not the same....

                    _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                    • P Paul Conrad

                      How about Platinumy.NET :-\

                      "I guess it's what separates the professionals from the drag and drop, girly wirly, namby pamby, wishy washy, can't code for crap types." - Pete O'Hanlon

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                      WithoutA.NET

                      “Cannot find REALITY.SYS...Universe Halted.” ~ God on phone with Microsoft Customer Support

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                      • M martin_hughes

                        No, not Pete's newest invention (that's Sarcasm.NET, which supersedes CausticRetort.NET), but Irony.NET[^] has anybody used it? If so, what do you think?

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                        Pete OHanlon
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                        I'm still working on DragNet; and that's not the show put on by the Ladyboys of Bangkok.

                        Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                        • E El Corazon

                          dan neely wrote:

                          Nantucket.net

                          There was a lady from nantucket dot net .... just not the same....

                          _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                          Paul Conrad
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                          El Corazon wrote:

                          There was a lady from nantucket dot net

                          Okay, there is a certain poem about her, but I don't know if it is even Soapbox-friendly :-\

                          "I guess it's what separates the professionals from the drag and drop, girly wirly, namby pamby, wishy washy, can't code for crap types." - Pete O'Hanlon

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                            El Corazon wrote:

                            There was a lady from nantucket dot net

                            Okay, there is a certain poem about her, but I don't know if it is even Soapbox-friendly :-\

                            "I guess it's what separates the professionals from the drag and drop, girly wirly, namby pamby, wishy washy, can't code for crap types." - Pete O'Hanlon

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                            El Corazon
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                            Paul Conrad wrote:

                            Okay, there is a certain poem about her, but I don't know if it is even Soapbox-friendly

                            if we know the same poetry, it isn't. ;P

                            _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                            • E El Corazon

                              Paul Conrad wrote:

                              Okay, there is a certain poem about her, but I don't know if it is even Soapbox-friendly

                              if we know the same poetry, it isn't. ;P

                              _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                              Paul Conrad
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                              :laugh:

                              "I guess it's what separates the professionals from the drag and drop, girly wirly, namby pamby, wishy washy, can't code for crap types." - Pete O'Hanlon

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                              • M martin_hughes

                                No, not Pete's newest invention (that's Sarcasm.NET, which supersedes CausticRetort.NET), but Irony.NET[^] has anybody used it? If so, what do you think?

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                                Super Lloyd
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                                I mostly used ANTLR. At a first glance it seems easier to me to design huge grammar with ANTLR than it is with Irony. But it looks like it's worth a try....

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                                • J Jim Crafton

                                  He lost me at: "Unlike most existing yacc/lex-style solutions Irony does not employ any scanner or parser code generation from grammar specifications written in proprietary meta-language. " What?!? Since when is the BNF/EBNF form used by yacc/lex and variants "proprietary"? What he's describing smells a lot like Spirit[^] And finally it's a stupid name. "Irony"? Please, puhhhlease give your project some meaningful name, not just random nouns/verbs/adjectives etc. Gahhh! So once I can get past all that, I guess I might be interested in it, I suppose.

                                  ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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                                  Brady Kelly
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                                  Jim Crafton wrote:

                                  Please, puhhhlease give your project some meaningful name,

                                  NACC? Dex?

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                                  • J Jim Crafton

                                    He lost me at: "Unlike most existing yacc/lex-style solutions Irony does not employ any scanner or parser code generation from grammar specifications written in proprietary meta-language. " What?!? Since when is the BNF/EBNF form used by yacc/lex and variants "proprietary"? What he's describing smells a lot like Spirit[^] And finally it's a stupid name. "Irony"? Please, puhhhlease give your project some meaningful name, not just random nouns/verbs/adjectives etc. Gahhh! So once I can get past all that, I guess I might be interested in it, I suppose.

                                    ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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                                    James Curran
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                                    "Irony" comes from "IronPython" & "IronRuby" (Microsoft .Net implementations of Python & Ruby). The mime has carried over to IronScheme, IronLisp and IronLogo among others. Hence "Irony" is for building "Iron*" languages.

                                    Truth, James

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                                    • R realJSOP

                                      Is there an aluminumy.net, or a steely.net?

                                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                      Lilith C
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                                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                      Is there an aluminumy.net, or a steely.net?

                                      Not.YET .

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                                      • J Jim Crafton

                                        He lost me at: "Unlike most existing yacc/lex-style solutions Irony does not employ any scanner or parser code generation from grammar specifications written in proprietary meta-language. " What?!? Since when is the BNF/EBNF form used by yacc/lex and variants "proprietary"? What he's describing smells a lot like Spirit[^] And finally it's a stupid name. "Irony"? Please, puhhhlease give your project some meaningful name, not just random nouns/verbs/adjectives etc. Gahhh! So once I can get past all that, I guess I might be interested in it, I suppose.

                                        ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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                                        Sarsipius
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                                        Jim Crafton wrote:

                                        He lost me at: "Unlike most existing yacc/lex-style solutions Irony does not employ any scanner or parser code generation from grammar specifications written in proprietary meta-language. " What?!? Since when is the BNF/EBNF form used by yacc/lex and variants "proprietary"?

                                        Allow me to translate for you: "We find it too difficult to parse BNF into C#, so rather than generate the code for you, you have to do it yourself." That's where the Irony comes in. They built a parser, but can't parse BNF themselves.

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                                        • M martin_hughes

                                          No, not Pete's newest invention (that's Sarcasm.NET, which supersedes CausticRetort.NET), but Irony.NET[^] has anybody used it? If so, what do you think?

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                                          NimitySSJ
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                                          It seems like a modern version of Spirit, the Boost library's C++ compiler builder. It used overloading and templates to allow you to write code that looked a lot like a standard grammar. There were classes or objects available to control the parsing. So, at first glance, the opening paragraph makes me think this is Spirit#. I still think GoldBuilder is one of the best language definers, as all I have to write is an LALR engine supporting the file format.

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