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  • M martin_hughes

    Yep, and a Bronzy.Net and Goldy.Net too :)

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    Paul Conrad
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    How about Platinumy.NET :-\

    "I guess it's what separates the professionals from the drag and drop, girly wirly, namby pamby, wishy washy, can't code for crap types." - Pete O'Hanlon

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    • M Maximilien

      What next ? Ironing.NET ? Your code is as flat as possible.

      Maximilien Lincourt Your Head A Splode - Strong Bad

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      Jim Crafton
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      Boudoir.Net - make you code really "Hot"!

      ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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      • M Maximilien

        What next ? Ironing.NET ? Your code is as flat as possible.

        Maximilien Lincourt Your Head A Splode - Strong Bad

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        Dan Neely
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        Nantucket.net Is the best thing yet When you code in Nantucket While Sitting on a bucket Because you lost a bet

        Otherwise [Microsoft is] toast in the long term no matter how much money they've got. They would be already if the Linux community didn't have it's head so firmly up it's own command line buffer that it looks like taking 15 years to find the desktop. -- Matthew Faithfull

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        • M Maximilien

          What next ? Ironing.NET ? Your code is as flat as possible.

          Maximilien Lincourt Your Head A Splode - Strong Bad

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          snorkie
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          For $19.95 you'll get not one, but TWO Ironing.TV frameworks. For those than can count that 1 for each hand! Call in the next 5 minutes and get free shipping! Hogan

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          • M martin_hughes

            No, not Pete's newest invention (that's Sarcasm.NET, which supersedes CausticRetort.NET), but Irony.NET[^] has anybody used it? If so, what do you think?

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            leppie
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            damnet! ;P

            xacc.ide - now with IronScheme support
            IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 2 out now

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            • D Dan Neely

              Nantucket.net Is the best thing yet When you code in Nantucket While Sitting on a bucket Because you lost a bet

              Otherwise [Microsoft is] toast in the long term no matter how much money they've got. They would be already if the Linux community didn't have it's head so firmly up it's own command line buffer that it looks like taking 15 years to find the desktop. -- Matthew Faithfull

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              El Corazon
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              dan neely wrote:

              Nantucket.net

              There was a lady from nantucket dot net .... just not the same....

              _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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              • P Paul Conrad

                How about Platinumy.NET :-\

                "I guess it's what separates the professionals from the drag and drop, girly wirly, namby pamby, wishy washy, can't code for crap types." - Pete O'Hanlon

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                Richard Andrew x64
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                WithoutA.NET

                “Cannot find REALITY.SYS...Universe Halted.” ~ God on phone with Microsoft Customer Support

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                • M martin_hughes

                  No, not Pete's newest invention (that's Sarcasm.NET, which supersedes CausticRetort.NET), but Irony.NET[^] has anybody used it? If so, what do you think?

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                  Pete OHanlon
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                  I'm still working on DragNet; and that's not the show put on by the Ladyboys of Bangkok.

                  Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

                  My blog | My articles

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                  • E El Corazon

                    dan neely wrote:

                    Nantucket.net

                    There was a lady from nantucket dot net .... just not the same....

                    _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                    Paul Conrad
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                    El Corazon wrote:

                    There was a lady from nantucket dot net

                    Okay, there is a certain poem about her, but I don't know if it is even Soapbox-friendly :-\

                    "I guess it's what separates the professionals from the drag and drop, girly wirly, namby pamby, wishy washy, can't code for crap types." - Pete O'Hanlon

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                    • P Paul Conrad

                      El Corazon wrote:

                      There was a lady from nantucket dot net

                      Okay, there is a certain poem about her, but I don't know if it is even Soapbox-friendly :-\

                      "I guess it's what separates the professionals from the drag and drop, girly wirly, namby pamby, wishy washy, can't code for crap types." - Pete O'Hanlon

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                      El Corazon
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                      Paul Conrad wrote:

                      Okay, there is a certain poem about her, but I don't know if it is even Soapbox-friendly

                      if we know the same poetry, it isn't. ;P

                      _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                      • E El Corazon

                        Paul Conrad wrote:

                        Okay, there is a certain poem about her, but I don't know if it is even Soapbox-friendly

                        if we know the same poetry, it isn't. ;P

                        _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                        Paul Conrad
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                        :laugh:

                        "I guess it's what separates the professionals from the drag and drop, girly wirly, namby pamby, wishy washy, can't code for crap types." - Pete O'Hanlon

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                        • M martin_hughes

                          No, not Pete's newest invention (that's Sarcasm.NET, which supersedes CausticRetort.NET), but Irony.NET[^] has anybody used it? If so, what do you think?

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                          Super Lloyd
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                          I mostly used ANTLR. At a first glance it seems easier to me to design huge grammar with ANTLR than it is with Irony. But it looks like it's worth a try....

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                          • J Jim Crafton

                            He lost me at: "Unlike most existing yacc/lex-style solutions Irony does not employ any scanner or parser code generation from grammar specifications written in proprietary meta-language. " What?!? Since when is the BNF/EBNF form used by yacc/lex and variants "proprietary"? What he's describing smells a lot like Spirit[^] And finally it's a stupid name. "Irony"? Please, puhhhlease give your project some meaningful name, not just random nouns/verbs/adjectives etc. Gahhh! So once I can get past all that, I guess I might be interested in it, I suppose.

                            ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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                            Brady Kelly
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                            Jim Crafton wrote:

                            Please, puhhhlease give your project some meaningful name,

                            NACC? Dex?

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                            • J Jim Crafton

                              He lost me at: "Unlike most existing yacc/lex-style solutions Irony does not employ any scanner or parser code generation from grammar specifications written in proprietary meta-language. " What?!? Since when is the BNF/EBNF form used by yacc/lex and variants "proprietary"? What he's describing smells a lot like Spirit[^] And finally it's a stupid name. "Irony"? Please, puhhhlease give your project some meaningful name, not just random nouns/verbs/adjectives etc. Gahhh! So once I can get past all that, I guess I might be interested in it, I suppose.

                              ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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                              James Curran
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                              "Irony" comes from "IronPython" & "IronRuby" (Microsoft .Net implementations of Python & Ruby). The mime has carried over to IronScheme, IronLisp and IronLogo among others. Hence "Irony" is for building "Iron*" languages.

                              Truth, James

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                              • R realJSOP

                                Is there an aluminumy.net, or a steely.net?

                                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                Lilith C
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                                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                Is there an aluminumy.net, or a steely.net?

                                Not.YET .

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                                • J Jim Crafton

                                  He lost me at: "Unlike most existing yacc/lex-style solutions Irony does not employ any scanner or parser code generation from grammar specifications written in proprietary meta-language. " What?!? Since when is the BNF/EBNF form used by yacc/lex and variants "proprietary"? What he's describing smells a lot like Spirit[^] And finally it's a stupid name. "Irony"? Please, puhhhlease give your project some meaningful name, not just random nouns/verbs/adjectives etc. Gahhh! So once I can get past all that, I guess I might be interested in it, I suppose.

                                  ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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                                  Sarsipius
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                                  Jim Crafton wrote:

                                  He lost me at: "Unlike most existing yacc/lex-style solutions Irony does not employ any scanner or parser code generation from grammar specifications written in proprietary meta-language. " What?!? Since when is the BNF/EBNF form used by yacc/lex and variants "proprietary"?

                                  Allow me to translate for you: "We find it too difficult to parse BNF into C#, so rather than generate the code for you, you have to do it yourself." That's where the Irony comes in. They built a parser, but can't parse BNF themselves.

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                                  • M martin_hughes

                                    No, not Pete's newest invention (that's Sarcasm.NET, which supersedes CausticRetort.NET), but Irony.NET[^] has anybody used it? If so, what do you think?

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                                    NimitySSJ
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                                    It seems like a modern version of Spirit, the Boost library's C++ compiler builder. It used overloading and templates to allow you to write code that looked a lot like a standard grammar. There were classes or objects available to control the parsing. So, at first glance, the opening paragraph makes me think this is Spirit#. I still think GoldBuilder is one of the best language definers, as all I have to write is an LALR engine supporting the file format.

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                                    • M Maximilien

                                      What next ? Ironing.NET ? Your code is as flat as possible.

                                      Maximilien Lincourt Your Head A Splode - Strong Bad

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                                      urbane tiger
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                                      I like Krypto.Net - especially good at hiding information, and the bugs :)

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                                      • M martin_hughes

                                        No, not Pete's newest invention (that's Sarcasm.NET, which supersedes CausticRetort.NET), but Irony.NET[^] has anybody used it? If so, what do you think?

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                                        Daniel Flower
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                                        I'm currently writing a (GW) BASIC-to-JavaScript compiler using Irony.NET (CodeProject article coming soon). I think Irony.NET is a brilliant project as it allows you to write an interpreter without really needing to do any scanner/parsing implementation, and just having everything in .NET code makes it seem so much more convenient than using, say, LEX or something. It's a little scant on documentation though.

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                                        • J Jim Crafton

                                          He lost me at: "Unlike most existing yacc/lex-style solutions Irony does not employ any scanner or parser code generation from grammar specifications written in proprietary meta-language. " What?!? Since when is the BNF/EBNF form used by yacc/lex and variants "proprietary"? What he's describing smells a lot like Spirit[^] And finally it's a stupid name. "Irony"? Please, puhhhlease give your project some meaningful name, not just random nouns/verbs/adjectives etc. Gahhh! So once I can get past all that, I guess I might be interested in it, I suppose.

                                          ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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                                          dmitri_sps
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                                          They changed the word "proprietary" to "specialized" on the day you posted the critics. Now it is even more grand: looks like Irony.NET introduces a new non-"Specialized" grammar meta-language. I think what happends is that the guys write a tool for certain code generation, like many people do for various reasons. They publish its source - it's a useful tool, and some people may like it. But it's not enough: they want to place some foundation, add some claim for theoretical break-through. And in doing so, they fully adopt Microsoft approach: claim it's open standard, universal, generic, etc. In reality, 1) it is .NET specific - would you want to write a Java parser for what they call an "expression grammar"??? 2) it is not documented - they have samples, but what is a grammar of their grammar? Will it start with "using System;" literal ?? So... do not take it serious. It's just another tool.

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