Irony.NET
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dan neely wrote:
There was a lady from nantucket dot net .... just not the same....
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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How about Platinumy.NET :-\
"I guess it's what separates the professionals from the drag and drop, girly wirly, namby pamby, wishy washy, can't code for crap types." - Pete O'Hanlon
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No, not Pete's newest invention (that's Sarcasm.NET, which supersedes CausticRetort.NET), but Irony.NET[^] has anybody used it? If so, what do you think?
I'm still working on DragNet; and that's not the show put on by the Ladyboys of Bangkok.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
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dan neely wrote:
There was a lady from nantucket dot net .... just not the same....
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
El Corazon wrote:
There was a lady from nantucket dot net
Okay, there is a certain poem about her, but I don't know if it is even Soapbox-friendly :-\
"I guess it's what separates the professionals from the drag and drop, girly wirly, namby pamby, wishy washy, can't code for crap types." - Pete O'Hanlon
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El Corazon wrote:
There was a lady from nantucket dot net
Okay, there is a certain poem about her, but I don't know if it is even Soapbox-friendly :-\
"I guess it's what separates the professionals from the drag and drop, girly wirly, namby pamby, wishy washy, can't code for crap types." - Pete O'Hanlon
Paul Conrad wrote:
Okay, there is a certain poem about her, but I don't know if it is even Soapbox-friendly
if we know the same poetry, it isn't. ;P
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Paul Conrad wrote:
Okay, there is a certain poem about her, but I don't know if it is even Soapbox-friendly
if we know the same poetry, it isn't. ;P
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
:laugh:
"I guess it's what separates the professionals from the drag and drop, girly wirly, namby pamby, wishy washy, can't code for crap types." - Pete O'Hanlon
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No, not Pete's newest invention (that's Sarcasm.NET, which supersedes CausticRetort.NET), but Irony.NET[^] has anybody used it? If so, what do you think?
I mostly used ANTLR. At a first glance it seems easier to me to design huge grammar with ANTLR than it is with Irony. But it looks like it's worth a try....
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He lost me at: "Unlike most existing yacc/lex-style solutions Irony does not employ any scanner or parser code generation from grammar specifications written in proprietary meta-language. " What?!? Since when is the BNF/EBNF form used by yacc/lex and variants "proprietary"? What he's describing smells a lot like Spirit[^] And finally it's a stupid name. "Irony"? Please, puhhhlease give your project some meaningful name, not just random nouns/verbs/adjectives etc. Gahhh! So once I can get past all that, I guess I might be interested in it, I suppose.
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Jim Crafton wrote:
Please, puhhhlease give your project some meaningful name,
NACC? Dex?
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He lost me at: "Unlike most existing yacc/lex-style solutions Irony does not employ any scanner or parser code generation from grammar specifications written in proprietary meta-language. " What?!? Since when is the BNF/EBNF form used by yacc/lex and variants "proprietary"? What he's describing smells a lot like Spirit[^] And finally it's a stupid name. "Irony"? Please, puhhhlease give your project some meaningful name, not just random nouns/verbs/adjectives etc. Gahhh! So once I can get past all that, I guess I might be interested in it, I suppose.
¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog
"Irony" comes from "IronPython" & "IronRuby" (Microsoft .Net implementations of Python & Ruby). The mime has carried over to IronScheme, IronLisp and IronLogo among others. Hence "Irony" is for building "Iron*" languages.
Truth, James
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Is there an aluminumy.net, or a steely.net?
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Is there an aluminumy.net, or a steely.net?
Not.YET .
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He lost me at: "Unlike most existing yacc/lex-style solutions Irony does not employ any scanner or parser code generation from grammar specifications written in proprietary meta-language. " What?!? Since when is the BNF/EBNF form used by yacc/lex and variants "proprietary"? What he's describing smells a lot like Spirit[^] And finally it's a stupid name. "Irony"? Please, puhhhlease give your project some meaningful name, not just random nouns/verbs/adjectives etc. Gahhh! So once I can get past all that, I guess I might be interested in it, I suppose.
¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog
Jim Crafton wrote:
He lost me at: "Unlike most existing yacc/lex-style solutions Irony does not employ any scanner or parser code generation from grammar specifications written in proprietary meta-language. " What?!? Since when is the BNF/EBNF form used by yacc/lex and variants "proprietary"?
Allow me to translate for you: "We find it too difficult to parse BNF into C#, so rather than generate the code for you, you have to do it yourself." That's where the Irony comes in. They built a parser, but can't parse BNF themselves.
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No, not Pete's newest invention (that's Sarcasm.NET, which supersedes CausticRetort.NET), but Irony.NET[^] has anybody used it? If so, what do you think?
It seems like a modern version of Spirit, the Boost library's C++ compiler builder. It used overloading and templates to allow you to write code that looked a lot like a standard grammar. There were classes or objects available to control the parsing. So, at first glance, the opening paragraph makes me think this is Spirit#. I still think GoldBuilder is one of the best language definers, as all I have to write is an LALR engine supporting the file format.
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What next ? Ironing.NET ? Your code is as flat as possible.
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I like Krypto.Net - especially good at hiding information, and the bugs :)
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No, not Pete's newest invention (that's Sarcasm.NET, which supersedes CausticRetort.NET), but Irony.NET[^] has anybody used it? If so, what do you think?
I'm currently writing a (GW) BASIC-to-JavaScript compiler using Irony.NET (CodeProject article coming soon). I think Irony.NET is a brilliant project as it allows you to write an interpreter without really needing to do any scanner/parsing implementation, and just having everything in .NET code makes it seem so much more convenient than using, say, LEX or something. It's a little scant on documentation though.
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He lost me at: "Unlike most existing yacc/lex-style solutions Irony does not employ any scanner or parser code generation from grammar specifications written in proprietary meta-language. " What?!? Since when is the BNF/EBNF form used by yacc/lex and variants "proprietary"? What he's describing smells a lot like Spirit[^] And finally it's a stupid name. "Irony"? Please, puhhhlease give your project some meaningful name, not just random nouns/verbs/adjectives etc. Gahhh! So once I can get past all that, I guess I might be interested in it, I suppose.
¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog
They changed the word "proprietary" to "specialized" on the day you posted the critics. Now it is even more grand: looks like Irony.NET introduces a new non-"Specialized" grammar meta-language. I think what happends is that the guys write a tool for certain code generation, like many people do for various reasons. They publish its source - it's a useful tool, and some people may like it. But it's not enough: they want to place some foundation, add some claim for theoretical break-through. And in doing so, they fully adopt Microsoft approach: claim it's open standard, universal, generic, etc. In reality, 1) it is .NET specific - would you want to write a Java parser for what they call an "expression grammar"??? 2) it is not documented - they have samples, but what is a grammar of their grammar? Will it start with "using System;" literal ?? So... do not take it serious. It's just another tool.
