Crystal Reports - We All Love to Hate
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Boukh wrote:
why you people hate every thing that works
Nope - I just dislike it when people try to chip in, and they rank at a negative on the clue-o-meter.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
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Boukh wrote:
why you people hate every thing that works
It works in general. But it has a shipload of issues that is creating problems that is not my fault. I can live with problems that I create myself. I can fix them. But waiting for more than half a year for Business Objects to fix some obscure bugs, IS getting on my mind. The problem is that the alternatives i have found so far isn't advanced enough or easy enough to use.
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Boukh wrote:
why you people hate every thing that works
It works in general. But it has a shipload of issues that is creating problems that is not my fault. I can live with problems that I create myself. I can fix them. But waiting for more than half a year for Business Objects to fix some obscure bugs, IS getting on my mind. The problem is that the alternatives i have found so far isn't advanced enough or easy enough to use.
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Boukh wrote:
why do you hate microsoft that much
What? I like Microsoft. I'm not the one throwing out slander about Steve Ballmer here. Seriously, are you really this clueless or did the nurse let you out for the night?
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
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Boukh wrote:
why you people hate every thing that works
Nope - I just dislike it when people try to chip in, and they rank at a negative on the clue-o-meter.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
Yeah Pete - time for a more positive attitude ;P
Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:
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Yeah Pete - time for a more positive attitude ;P
Mark Salsbery Microsoft MVP - Visual C++ :java:
Mark Salsbery wrote:
time for a more positive attitude
I want to maintain my lack of positivity. It's the bleak meaningless depression of my miserable existence that keeps me getting out of bed on a morning.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
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Yes, we all love to hate Crystal Reports, but, sometimes, we are forced to use it at our workplace. Today, one of the users reported an issue when printing reports from the Intranet; they were getting multiple copies. When I investigated, I discovered that the number of copies being printing was the square of the number of copies requested. Request 1, get one; request 2, get 4; request 3, get 9... After much searching, I found a serivce pack to address the issue... but, come on! What developer allowed THAT to slide into a commercial system??? Hopefully, the service pack doesn't break anything else... Tim
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what? i ment it as a compliment for Steve Ballmer. how don't want to be in microsoft and Steve Ballmer is the one of the Steve Ballmer poineers. maybe you are the one who the nurse let you out for the night
Boukh wrote:
i ment it as a compliment for Steve Ballmer
So, you call him gay and now it's a compliment. I realise that English isn't your first language, so you might actually want to pause and read things through a couple of times before you try to play catchup with the big boys. Hell, I suspect that language isn't your first language. ;P
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
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what? i ment it as a compliment for Steve Ballmer. how don't want to be in microsoft and Steve Ballmer is the one of the Steve Ballmer poineers. maybe you are the one who the nurse let you out for the night
you wouldn't show that disrespect for the President of Lebanon or the Speaker of the Parliament.
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Boukh wrote:
i ment it as a compliment for Steve Ballmer
So, you call him gay and now it's a compliment. I realise that English isn't your first language, so you might actually want to pause and read things through a couple of times before you try to play catchup with the big boys. Hell, I suspect that language isn't your first language. ;P
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
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you wouldn't show that disrespect for the President of Lebanon or the Speaker of the Parliament.
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Tim Carmichael wrote:
When I investigated, I discovered that the number of copies being printing was the square of the number of copies requested. Request 1, get one; request 2, get 4; request 3, get 9...
Perhaps it was by design - you all know that feeling when you get to a meeting and you realise you haven't printed off enough copies for all of the attendees :)
And that worked out just wonderfully until the afternoon of the company's annual status meeting .. "Let's see now we have 179 confirmed, I'll just tack on another 20 in case, oh lets just make it 200 even"
I'm largely language agnostic
After a while they all bug me :doh:
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Mark Salsbery wrote:
time for a more positive attitude
I want to maintain my lack of positivity. It's the bleak meaningless depression of my miserable existence that keeps me getting out of bed on a morning.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
This is no time for Wuthering Heights, Pete! Even if it is me, your Kathy, come home!
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Boukh wrote:
by the way we don't have President now a days
With citizens like you, I cant blame him ;P
"There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon
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I call it lack of competition! :|
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Boukh wrote:
why do you hate microsoft that much
What? I like Microsoft. I'm not the one throwing out slander about Steve Ballmer here. Seriously, are you really this clueless or did the nurse let you out for the night?
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
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Tim Carmichael wrote:
Yes, we all love to hate Crystal Reports, but, sometimes, we are forced to use it at our workplace.
I've come to the same conclusion. But then I wondered, are there really no good alternatives? So as a little question to all CPians out there, which alternatives are there for making printed reports?
see: http://fast-report.com/en/[^] Use it in lots of projects....its low cost, low-footprint (single dll for goodness sake)....and is easily embedded and made do lots of special / custom behaviors
Just trying to keep the forces of entropy at bay
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Boukh wrote:
i ment it as a compliment for Steve Ballmer
So, you call him gay and now it's a compliment. I realise that English isn't your first language, so you might actually want to pause and read things through a couple of times before you try to play catchup with the big boys. Hell, I suspect that language isn't your first language. ;P
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
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Tim Carmichael wrote:
Yes, we all love to hate Crystal Reports, but, sometimes, we are forced to use it at our workplace.
I've come to the same conclusion. But then I wondered, are there really no good alternatives? So as a little question to all CPians out there, which alternatives are there for making printed reports?
Dozens, in the .net world there are some *excellent* alternatives that are small, fast, easy to distribute, come with C# as the scripting language and are hassle free with a free end user report designer component (I still have a burning hatred at CR from their old policy of charging 10 dollars less per copy (and has to be audited) of the end user designer component for each copy you want to distribute than a full off the shelf retail copy of CR!). I honestly don't understand for a second why any developer would continue to use CR with a plethora of excellent alternatives out there. DevExpress XtraReports is what we settled on (after testing all the biggies) when we joyfully were finally able to kick Crystal Reports to the curb.
"The pursuit of excellence is less profitable than the pursuit of bigness, but it can be more satisfying." - David Ogilvy
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Yes, we all love to hate Crystal Reports, but, sometimes, we are forced to use it at our workplace. Today, one of the users reported an issue when printing reports from the Intranet; they were getting multiple copies. When I investigated, I discovered that the number of copies being printing was the square of the number of copies requested. Request 1, get one; request 2, get 4; request 3, get 9... After much searching, I found a serivce pack to address the issue... but, come on! What developer allowed THAT to slide into a commercial system??? Hopefully, the service pack doesn't break anything else... Tim
How many times have I heard complaints about Crystal reports. Usually from people who don't the have the mental strength to try and understand how it works. Face up to it, if you want to write complex reports with subtle behaviour, you are going to have to use a complicated tool. If you are using a complicated tool, it is going to take some effort to master it. If you are using a complicated tool, there will be lots of room for mistakes. If you want a reporting tool that you can learn in a few hours, lets you do everything with clicks / drag drop, don't bother with Crystal. But don't expect to be able to solve any complex problems either.
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