Installs taking longer than downloads
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I read an interesting point in Bill Gates' usability email[^] (from the Insider.)
The download is fast but the Install takes many minutes.
I hadn't thought of it until now but a few years ago it took hours to download an application and at most 30 minutes to install the app. I used to often leave downloads overnight, ready to install in the morning. These days I can get 500mb in a couple of minutes. Installers however have only got slower. Adobe CS3 takes about an hour to install properly. The download takes 15 minutes. Weird.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
Paul Watson wrote:
Adobe CS3 takes about an hour to install
Everything with the word Adobe in it just completely and utterly sucks. Save yourself the wasted time and don't even bother with the download. Try some of these[^]. Acrobat reader in particular. It takes hours to load a simple pdf, every time you open it you get prompted with their stupid ugly update manager thingy... "please update to version 8.0001512.21223521.312001001105401.123"... When All I wanted to do was read a pdf!
Simon
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Paul Watson wrote:
Adobe CS3 takes about an hour to install
Everything with the word Adobe in it just completely and utterly sucks. Save yourself the wasted time and don't even bother with the download. Try some of these[^]. Acrobat reader in particular. It takes hours to load a simple pdf, every time you open it you get prompted with their stupid ugly update manager thingy... "please update to version 8.0001512.21223521.312001001105401.123"... When All I wanted to do was read a pdf!
Simon
Simon Stevens wrote:
Save yourself the wasted time and don't even bother with the download. Try some of these[^].
Thanks Simon, tried them all and I think Photoshop is still the best for photo work. I also like Macromedia Adobe Fireworks. I am a bit odd in that regard, so few other people like it.
Simon Stevens wrote:
Acrobat reader in particular.
I am on Mac OS X. PDFs load in under a second, Quick View in OS X is very, very nice. On Windows, you are so screwed with PDF, sorry.
Simon Stevens wrote:
Everything with the word Adobe in it just completely and utterly sucks.
Their apps are good but their installers are crap.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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Paul Watson wrote:
Adobe CS3 takes about an hour to install properly.
Vista takes half that time to install... I suspect its all due to that COM crap they invented.
xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 4a out now (29 May 2008)I was pleasantly suprised with the Vista install. A shame everything after the install is so poor.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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I was pleasantly suprised with the Vista install. A shame everything after the install is so poor.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
Paul Watson wrote:
A shame everything after the install is so poor.
It gets better when you switch to Windows Classic scheme and replace the installation with Windows Server 2008 :rolleyes:
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I read an interesting point in Bill Gates' usability email[^] (from the Insider.)
The download is fast but the Install takes many minutes.
I hadn't thought of it until now but a few years ago it took hours to download an application and at most 30 minutes to install the app. I used to often leave downloads overnight, ready to install in the morning. These days I can get 500mb in a couple of minutes. Installers however have only got slower. Adobe CS3 takes about an hour to install properly. The download takes 15 minutes. Weird.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
The CS3 installer has to be the worst I've seen yet. If I remember correctly it took a few hours to install the entire master collection and it didn't even do that properly! I have difficulty understanding why CS3 is so much slower than CS2, other than possibly something to do with Adobe & Macromedia merging thier product suites?!.
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I read an interesting point in Bill Gates' usability email[^] (from the Insider.)
The download is fast but the Install takes many minutes.
I hadn't thought of it until now but a few years ago it took hours to download an application and at most 30 minutes to install the app. I used to often leave downloads overnight, ready to install in the morning. These days I can get 500mb in a couple of minutes. Installers however have only got slower. Adobe CS3 takes about an hour to install properly. The download takes 15 minutes. Weird.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
Someone decided to trash the one part of Windows that was usable? The file system is no longer usable. The registry is not usable. This program listing was one sane place but now it is all crapped up. Hear Hear!
We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
blog: TDD - the Aha! | Linkify!| FoldWithUs! | sighist -
I read an interesting point in Bill Gates' usability email[^] (from the Insider.)
The download is fast but the Install takes many minutes.
I hadn't thought of it until now but a few years ago it took hours to download an application and at most 30 minutes to install the app. I used to often leave downloads overnight, ready to install in the morning. These days I can get 500mb in a couple of minutes. Installers however have only got slower. Adobe CS3 takes about an hour to install properly. The download takes 15 minutes. Weird.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
Paul Watson wrote:
Adobe CS3 takes about an hour to install properly.
Maybe it searches your 2 terabyte hard disk to look for 'cracks' that defeated the previous version :rolleyes:
xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 4a out now (29 May 2008) -
Paul Watson wrote:
Adobe CS3 takes about an hour to install properly.
Maybe it searches your 2 terabyte hard disk to look for 'cracks' that defeated the previous version :rolleyes:
xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 4a out now (29 May 2008)heh. Actually, CS3 fails to install (after an hour of churning) if you have a previous version of CS3 installed, a beta or trial version for instance. Very, very frustrating. (And I make do with an 80gb HD. I don't like having anymore, it just encourages waste.)
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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I read an interesting point in Bill Gates' usability email[^] (from the Insider.)
The download is fast but the Install takes many minutes.
I hadn't thought of it until now but a few years ago it took hours to download an application and at most 30 minutes to install the app. I used to often leave downloads overnight, ready to install in the morning. These days I can get 500mb in a couple of minutes. Installers however have only got slower. Adobe CS3 takes about an hour to install properly. The download takes 15 minutes. Weird.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
IIRC, i can download a new copy of Illustrator faster than i can get my existing copy to start up.
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IIRC, i can download a new copy of Illustrator faster than i can get my existing copy to start up.
:laugh: The same applies for Acrobat Reader as well.
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I read an interesting point in Bill Gates' usability email[^] (from the Insider.)
The download is fast but the Install takes many minutes.
I hadn't thought of it until now but a few years ago it took hours to download an application and at most 30 minutes to install the app. I used to often leave downloads overnight, ready to install in the morning. These days I can get 500mb in a couple of minutes. Installers however have only got slower. Adobe CS3 takes about an hour to install properly. The download takes 15 minutes. Weird.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
Paul Watson wrote:
a few years ago it took hours to download an application
Hmm... It seems I'm still living in a few years ago. :-D
// "In the end it's a little boy expressing himself." Yanni while (I_am_alive)
{
cout<<"I love to do more than just programming.";
} -
Simon Stevens wrote:
Save yourself the wasted time and don't even bother with the download. Try some of these[^].
Thanks Simon, tried them all and I think Photoshop is still the best for photo work. I also like Macromedia Adobe Fireworks. I am a bit odd in that regard, so few other people like it.
Simon Stevens wrote:
Acrobat reader in particular.
I am on Mac OS X. PDFs load in under a second, Quick View in OS X is very, very nice. On Windows, you are so screwed with PDF, sorry.
Simon Stevens wrote:
Everything with the word Adobe in it just completely and utterly sucks.
Their apps are good but their installers are crap.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
Paul Watson wrote:
tried them all and I think Photoshop is still the best for photo work.
Yeah, unfortunately, I suspect your probably right. I don't do anything serious, so I get by with paint.net for the most part. I have heard that photoshop simply is required for serious photo editing.
Paul Watson wrote:
I am on Mac OS X. PDFs load in under a second
Interesting, so maybe I should be blaming windows for my pdf woes. (I have now switched to foxit[^] which is much lighter, but wouldn't compete with your mac by any means.
Simon
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Paul Watson wrote:
a few years ago it took hours to download an application
Hmm... It seems I'm still living in a few years ago. :-D
// "In the end it's a little boy expressing himself." Yanni while (I_am_alive)
{
cout<<"I love to do more than just programming.";
}Yeah, it helps working for the government, you get big fat pipes for nothing.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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Paul Watson wrote:
tried them all and I think Photoshop is still the best for photo work.
Yeah, unfortunately, I suspect your probably right. I don't do anything serious, so I get by with paint.net for the most part. I have heard that photoshop simply is required for serious photo editing.
Paul Watson wrote:
I am on Mac OS X. PDFs load in under a second
Interesting, so maybe I should be blaming windows for my pdf woes. (I have now switched to foxit[^] which is much lighter, but wouldn't compete with your mac by any means.
Simon
Simon Stevens wrote:
Interesting, so maybe I should be blaming windows for my pdf woes.
Ah no, blame Adobe. The Adobe Reader app. is slow on Mac OS X too. But Mac OS X has built-in PDF viewing so it is unfairly fast. Technically Windows could do it too but I imagine Adobe would sue Microsoft or something equally pathetic. FoxIt is your best bet on Windows. If you use Firefox 3 then this extension[^] is pretty handy too.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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I was pleasantly suprised with the Vista install. A shame everything after the install is so poor.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
Paul Watson wrote:
A shame everything after the install is so poor.
:~ What exactly? Vista is the second best desktop OS I have tried (the best one is Windows Server 2008 with some tweaks :) )
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Yeah, it helps working for the government, you get big fat pipes for nothing.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
Paul Watson wrote:
for nothing.
It seems I'm living in a few decades ago, since I have to pay for my bandwidth. By the way, would you please download VS 2008 express edition for me and email it to me?!! :-D
// "In the end it's a little boy expressing himself." Yanni while (I_am_alive)
{
cout<<"I love to do more than just programming.";
} -
Paul Watson wrote:
A shame everything after the install is so poor.
:~ What exactly? Vista is the second best desktop OS I have tried (the best one is Windows Server 2008 with some tweaks :) )
Aero, UAC, rough edges, inconsistencies, change-for-change-sake and no command-line improvements. I've gone back to Windows XP when I need Windows.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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Paul Watson wrote:
for nothing.
It seems I'm living in a few decades ago, since I have to pay for my bandwidth. By the way, would you please download VS 2008 express edition for me and email it to me?!! :-D
// "In the end it's a little boy expressing himself." Yanni while (I_am_alive)
{
cout<<"I love to do more than just programming.";
}Hamed Mosavi wrote:
It seems I'm living in a few decades ago, since I have to pay for my bandwidth.
Ah yeah, I do pay at home but it is pretty darned cheap (€40 for 6mb/s.)
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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Hamed Mosavi wrote:
It seems I'm living in a few decades ago, since I have to pay for my bandwidth.
Ah yeah, I do pay at home but it is pretty darned cheap (€40 for 6mb/s.)
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
Paul Watson wrote:
€40 for 6mb/s
I pay 30$ for 64Kbps with 5GB limitation.
// "In the end it's a little boy expressing himself." Yanni while (I_am_alive)
{
cout<<"I love to do more than just programming.";
} -
Paul Watson wrote:
€40 for 6mb/s
I pay 30$ for 64Kbps with 5GB limitation.
// "In the end it's a little boy expressing himself." Yanni while (I_am_alive)
{
cout<<"I love to do more than just programming.";
}Sounds like back home in South Africa, expensive there too.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.