Apple Does not 'Just work'
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If you're having to type your password every time you want to do anything there's certainly something wrong with either your system or with what you're trying to do with it. Try running Disk Utility and repair permissions on your system drive. I admit it must be annoying if that is happening, but hey UAC anyone? Hello? I've been using a Mac since early OS 9 days (circa '93) and Windows machines (3.1/95/98/NT/XP/Vista) for about the same. Are they different? Of course they are. Is one better than the other? Well that depends on what you are trying to do. That's like trying to compare a salad and a steak. One thing that I've found over the years is that using a Mac you get a better view of the wider world, particularly when it comes to file formats, usually MS ones. Personally I've never had any airport issues, nor any issues with any USB drive. WMA files, well as usual that's a MS proprietary file format. That's what they do. Forget adopting anything that is already good enough for the job, let's create our own format. Sony are just as bad. Unlike Apple who went with AAC for iTunes, but also made it flexible enough for people them a choice. If you want to play WMA on a Mac you have plenty of choices, try checking out MacUpdate HERE NTFS? Well firstly you can read NTFS disks by default under OS X and of course read/write even format disks in FAT32. When was the last time you were able to read an HFS/HFS+ disk on a PC? Need to write to an NTFS disk? Try NTFS-3G Forgot cross platform file issues though, have you ever tried to open a MS Works database file in MS Access? Or a Works Word Processing file in Word? MS don't even support all their own formats on their own platform (by default anyway). Granted that XCode might not be the slickest IDE in the world, but at least they don't have the balls to charge you for it. When did MS last give away Visual Studio? You want to write in BASIC, what about REALBasic? Alright, it's not exactly the same as MS VB, but it's not trying to be. That said though what MS tool will compile your VB code into an OS X/Linux/Win executable? Want to write .net code on a Mac try looking up Mono. Granted the GUI sucks, but it can be done. I could go on all day, but it's the same old story. The bottom line is that you need to accept that different computers are good at different things. I use a Mac on a daily basis for my graphic and web work, but I als
Bristle_Ike wrote:
WMA files, well as usual that's a MS proprietary file format. That's what they do. Forget adopting anything that is already good enough for the job, let's create our own format. Sony are just as bad. Unlike Apple who went with AAC for iTunes, but also made it flexible enough for people them a choice.
Wait, wait..... you're deriding Microsoft for forcing proprietary file formats on their users? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Hehe. iTunes is the reason I have my entire CD collection on my computer TWICE. I had it on there in mp3, and then I got my iPod. Ignoring the major interface issues I had with the iPod and iTunes (I had to wipe the iPod completely at least two or three times my first day with it), iTunes refuses to recognize other than Apple's proprietary audio format. Well, actually that might be a bit harsh. It does recognize it - but only to the extent that it offers to convert it for you. I'm just glad I got my iPod for free - which might have been too expensive after all.
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I am so, so sick of typing in my password every single time I want to do anything, and of apps crashing, and of things like the Airport Update rendering the Airport base station inoperative, and missing support for things like WMA files, and my USB drive, and all the other crap that Apple likes to thing only happens to PC users. I knew Apple was full of hot air and stretching the truth but it's now at the point of offensive. Get your house into order, Apple, before you think about slinging stones and arrows.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
I agree. I find a lot of things annoying about them. I'm also quite pleased by OSX. I feel that the right mix of OSX, XP and a tiny dash of Vista would make the best operating system to date. I find that I'm carrying my macbook more often than my XP Vaio, even though they have the same processor speed, probably because my Vaio has already been in the shop for major repairs and is feeling a bit finicky even now. I'd carry my Vista HP tablet more often, but it has an AMD processor that doesn't seem as fast or as battery efficient as either of the other two. That is another note. I like the fact that power management works so well on my macbook, but we'll see how that fares 2 years down the line. My Vaio was a champ with battery life until things started wearing out. As for you typing in a password every single time you do anything... I only have to do that when I add things to the applications folder or perform system updates. Just what the heck are you doing? I feel for ya on the missing support for audio/video. I want my zune to work with my macbook. Heck, I want a good player that does mkv subtitles correctly (VLC doesn't do it right and I can't figure out how to make MPlayer OSX do it at all).
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Really ? I have to type my password in to install a program, it's nothing like Vista. I'll give you WMA support, but everything else I've tried to bring over, has worked fine. And, I am loving my Mac ( I am using it right now ). Perhaps you've just used yours more than mine, I played my first mp3 tonight, I basically web browse and use XCode. I would agree that people who think Mac is perfect, are wrong, but overall, I do like the Mac environment a lot. I have several USB and portable hard drives, they all work. I am using a Microsoft keyboard and mouse right now. My Mac has had a lot of use ( again, in limited ways ) and never crashed. Not once.
Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you. If you're still stuck, ask me for more information.
I think I crashed mine once. I think it also didn't do a true hibernate when it was running out of power once too. I've experimented with my macbook a lot. I've even written fortran code on it ;). Using the Intel compiler on that produced good code, but their interface to xcode/gdb is attrocious and shouldn't even be called "Preview". The only device that I've tried that hasn't worked right off is my Zune, but we all knew that to begin with. I also am in the group that hardly ever has to type in a password. Something that does tick me off though. There is a guy who compiles and releases Darwine on a pretty regular basis. He is awesomely on top of it. I can't ever get it to ask me for a password when I try to copy it over to the applications directory and instead it just says that I don't have some type of permissions. I don't know what he isn't doing, but everything else does ask me for the password. Ah well, your experience sounds like mine.
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Really ? I have to type my password in to install a program, it's nothing like Vista. I'll give you WMA support, but everything else I've tried to bring over, has worked fine. And, I am loving my Mac ( I am using it right now ). Perhaps you've just used yours more than mine, I played my first mp3 tonight, I basically web browse and use XCode. I would agree that people who think Mac is perfect, are wrong, but overall, I do like the Mac environment a lot. I have several USB and portable hard drives, they all work. I am using a Microsoft keyboard and mouse right now. My Mac has had a lot of use ( again, in limited ways ) and never crashed. Not once.
Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you. If you're still stuck, ask me for more information.
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You miss the obvious problem here: Why would anyone want to run Mac OS on a PC? Apple made it easy to run Windows on a Mac for a simple marketing reason: Windows is more useful, because more stuff is written for Windows. That way people who want to be snobby about having a Mac can continue to be snobby about having a Mac, and then use the better OS to get stuff done. And then they even manage to be snobby about that! I think there are two reasons there isn't an obvious way to run Mac OS on a PC: First, nobody cares (oh, sorry, three people do), and secondly, can you seriously see Jobs letting Mac OS be licensed on anything other than his own proprietary hardware? Jobs is a control freak. It'll never happen. Tomorrows headline: Virtual Mac released for PC
Trevortni wrote:
can you seriously see Jobs letting Mac OS be licensed on anything other than his own proprietary hardware? Jobs is a control freak. It'll never happen.
not legally, but there're lots of hackintosh guides out their for anyone who does want to do it.
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall
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Bristle_Ike wrote:
WMA files, well as usual that's a MS proprietary file format. That's what they do. Forget adopting anything that is already good enough for the job, let's create our own format. Sony are just as bad. Unlike Apple who went with AAC for iTunes, but also made it flexible enough for people them a choice.
Wait, wait..... you're deriding Microsoft for forcing proprietary file formats on their users? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Hehe. iTunes is the reason I have my entire CD collection on my computer TWICE. I had it on there in mp3, and then I got my iPod. Ignoring the major interface issues I had with the iPod and iTunes (I had to wipe the iPod completely at least two or three times my first day with it), iTunes refuses to recognize other than Apple's proprietary audio format. Well, actually that might be a bit harsh. It does recognize it - but only to the extent that it offers to convert it for you. I'm just glad I got my iPod for free - which might have been too expensive after all.
Sorry but that's where you're wrong. AAC is not an Apple proprietary format, they've just popularized the use of it as the default setting in iTunes. From Wikipedia: "Advanced Audio Coding (AAC) is a standardized, lossy compression and encoding scheme for digital audio. Designed to be the successor of the MP3 format, AAC generally achieves better sound quality than MP3 at many bit rates. AAC has been standardized by ISO and IEC, as part of the MPEG-2 & MPEG-4 specifications. The MPEG-2 standard contains several audio coding methods, including the MP3 coding scheme AAC is also the standard audio format for Sony’s PlayStation 3, latest generation of Sony Walkman, Sony Ericsson Walkman Phone, Nintendo's Wii (with the Photo Channel 1.1 update installed for Wii consoles purchased before late 2007) and the MPEG-4 video standard. HE-AAC is part of digital radio standards like DAB+ and Digital Radio Mondiale." And I don't know what's wrong with your iPod but I've got mine full of MP3 files which are all held in my iTunes library. If you look at the settings iTunes gives you a choice of codec.
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Sorry but that's where you're wrong. AAC is not an Apple proprietary format, they've just popularized the use of it as the default setting in iTunes. From Wikipedia: "Advanced Audio Coding (AAC) is a standardized, lossy compression and encoding scheme for digital audio. Designed to be the successor of the MP3 format, AAC generally achieves better sound quality than MP3 at many bit rates. AAC has been standardized by ISO and IEC, as part of the MPEG-2 & MPEG-4 specifications. The MPEG-2 standard contains several audio coding methods, including the MP3 coding scheme AAC is also the standard audio format for Sony’s PlayStation 3, latest generation of Sony Walkman, Sony Ericsson Walkman Phone, Nintendo's Wii (with the Photo Channel 1.1 update installed for Wii consoles purchased before late 2007) and the MPEG-4 video standard. HE-AAC is part of digital radio standards like DAB+ and Digital Radio Mondiale." And I don't know what's wrong with your iPod but I've got mine full of MP3 files which are all held in my iTunes library. If you look at the settings iTunes gives you a choice of codec.
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Trevortni wrote:
can you seriously see Jobs letting Mac OS be licensed on anything other than his own proprietary hardware? Jobs is a control freak. It'll never happen.
not legally, but there're lots of hackintosh guides out their for anyone who does want to do it.
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall
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OK, Express editions you got me there. Good products for the price, especially SQL Express. But there are limitations in the Express product set which MS puts in place to force your hand to buy the full version of Visual Studio. An example being if you want to be able to do Windows Mobile development you need the pro version.
Mobile development is also possible in the less-expensive Standard Edition. :) Flynn
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Mobile development is also possible in the less-expensive Standard Edition. :) Flynn
Not according to the MS Visual Studio product comparision. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-gb/vs2008/products/cc149003.aspx I've got a both copy of standard and pro and I certainly can't find it in the standard edition. If you could show me that would be ideal.
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You are coming to a sad realization...? :-\
Citizen 20.1.01
'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'
Yeah, all computers suck :)
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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Every single time I install somethinng, whether it be an update or an app. Also, every time I made a change to the Airport settings (which I've since figured out how to stop). As to the airport itself, the latest update from Apple turned it into a paper weight. I'll be heading back to the apple store, serious face in tow.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
I'm guessing you won't be getting an iPhone on Friday then... ;) I am frustrated that your experience has been so poor, sorry about that Chris. Ever thought about building a log cabin and becoming a lumberjack?
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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Andrew Bleakley wrote:
Try writing code for Macs - that makes using them a dream
I was drinking when I read that! I almost choked! I did that once, and once is once too many!
yep :laugh:
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Not according to the MS Visual Studio product comparision. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-gb/vs2008/products/cc149003.aspx I've got a both copy of standard and pro and I certainly can't find it in the standard edition. If you could show me that would be ideal.
Well, crap. It was in the Standard edition of 2005. Sucks that they took it out of 2008 Standard. :( Flynn
_If we can't corrupt the youth of today,
the adults of tomorrow will be no fun...
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Well, crap. It was in the Standard edition of 2005. Sucks that they took it out of 2008 Standard. :( Flynn
_If we can't corrupt the youth of today,
the adults of tomorrow will be no fun...
_Amen to that brother...
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Try writing code for Macs - that makes using them a dream
LOL One of the main reasons I switched to PCs for development. I just got absolutely sick of the state of development on the Mac. I figure I'll branch back eventually, when I can make my subplatform multi-platform itself, but I don't want to put up with it until I'm ready. Granted things might be a lot better now, it's been several years. But the fact that you can't use C++ really irks me (Carbon was just plain bad). There are a few things I miss--but mostly to do with the actual Mac platform (things like bundles) than the development thereof.
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Yes, that is very true. I remember how odd C++ looked when I had just come out of high school learning BASIC on an Apple ][e ( showing my age here :laugh: ). Then, after C++, found Java odd, learned it, then onto C#, and I have to say, I do like all three of the languages.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
So why not to use Java for Mac programming? Your IDE will look the same (at least NetBeans is packaged for Mac SO too), language, librarties, frameworks, etc... Wasn't is Java that saved all the ***x OS from oblivion?
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So why not to use Java for Mac programming? Your IDE will look the same (at least NetBeans is packaged for Mac SO too), language, librarties, frameworks, etc... Wasn't is Java that saved all the ***x OS from oblivion?
Yeah, there always is Java :rolleyes:
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
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I am so, so sick of typing in my password every single time I want to do anything, and of apps crashing, and of things like the Airport Update rendering the Airport base station inoperative, and missing support for things like WMA files, and my USB drive, and all the other crap that Apple likes to thing only happens to PC users. I knew Apple was full of hot air and stretching the truth but it's now at the point of offensive. Get your house into order, Apple, before you think about slinging stones and arrows.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP