Apple Does not 'Just work'
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You miss the obvious problem here: Why would anyone want to run Mac OS on a PC? Apple made it easy to run Windows on a Mac for a simple marketing reason: Windows is more useful, because more stuff is written for Windows. That way people who want to be snobby about having a Mac can continue to be snobby about having a Mac, and then use the better OS to get stuff done. And then they even manage to be snobby about that! I think there are two reasons there isn't an obvious way to run Mac OS on a PC: First, nobody cares (oh, sorry, three people do), and secondly, can you seriously see Jobs letting Mac OS be licensed on anything other than his own proprietary hardware? Jobs is a control freak. It'll never happen. Tomorrows headline: Virtual Mac released for PC
Trevortni wrote:
can you seriously see Jobs letting Mac OS be licensed on anything other than his own proprietary hardware? Jobs is a control freak. It'll never happen.
not legally, but there're lots of hackintosh guides out their for anyone who does want to do it.
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall
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Bristle_Ike wrote:
WMA files, well as usual that's a MS proprietary file format. That's what they do. Forget adopting anything that is already good enough for the job, let's create our own format. Sony are just as bad. Unlike Apple who went with AAC for iTunes, but also made it flexible enough for people them a choice.
Wait, wait..... you're deriding Microsoft for forcing proprietary file formats on their users? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Hehe. iTunes is the reason I have my entire CD collection on my computer TWICE. I had it on there in mp3, and then I got my iPod. Ignoring the major interface issues I had with the iPod and iTunes (I had to wipe the iPod completely at least two or three times my first day with it), iTunes refuses to recognize other than Apple's proprietary audio format. Well, actually that might be a bit harsh. It does recognize it - but only to the extent that it offers to convert it for you. I'm just glad I got my iPod for free - which might have been too expensive after all.
Sorry but that's where you're wrong. AAC is not an Apple proprietary format, they've just popularized the use of it as the default setting in iTunes. From Wikipedia: "Advanced Audio Coding (AAC) is a standardized, lossy compression and encoding scheme for digital audio. Designed to be the successor of the MP3 format, AAC generally achieves better sound quality than MP3 at many bit rates. AAC has been standardized by ISO and IEC, as part of the MPEG-2 & MPEG-4 specifications. The MPEG-2 standard contains several audio coding methods, including the MP3 coding scheme AAC is also the standard audio format for Sony’s PlayStation 3, latest generation of Sony Walkman, Sony Ericsson Walkman Phone, Nintendo's Wii (with the Photo Channel 1.1 update installed for Wii consoles purchased before late 2007) and the MPEG-4 video standard. HE-AAC is part of digital radio standards like DAB+ and Digital Radio Mondiale." And I don't know what's wrong with your iPod but I've got mine full of MP3 files which are all held in my iTunes library. If you look at the settings iTunes gives you a choice of codec.
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Sorry but that's where you're wrong. AAC is not an Apple proprietary format, they've just popularized the use of it as the default setting in iTunes. From Wikipedia: "Advanced Audio Coding (AAC) is a standardized, lossy compression and encoding scheme for digital audio. Designed to be the successor of the MP3 format, AAC generally achieves better sound quality than MP3 at many bit rates. AAC has been standardized by ISO and IEC, as part of the MPEG-2 & MPEG-4 specifications. The MPEG-2 standard contains several audio coding methods, including the MP3 coding scheme AAC is also the standard audio format for Sony’s PlayStation 3, latest generation of Sony Walkman, Sony Ericsson Walkman Phone, Nintendo's Wii (with the Photo Channel 1.1 update installed for Wii consoles purchased before late 2007) and the MPEG-4 video standard. HE-AAC is part of digital radio standards like DAB+ and Digital Radio Mondiale." And I don't know what's wrong with your iPod but I've got mine full of MP3 files which are all held in my iTunes library. If you look at the settings iTunes gives you a choice of codec.
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Trevortni wrote:
can you seriously see Jobs letting Mac OS be licensed on anything other than his own proprietary hardware? Jobs is a control freak. It'll never happen.
not legally, but there're lots of hackintosh guides out their for anyone who does want to do it.
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall
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OK, Express editions you got me there. Good products for the price, especially SQL Express. But there are limitations in the Express product set which MS puts in place to force your hand to buy the full version of Visual Studio. An example being if you want to be able to do Windows Mobile development you need the pro version.
Mobile development is also possible in the less-expensive Standard Edition. :) Flynn
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Mobile development is also possible in the less-expensive Standard Edition. :) Flynn
Not according to the MS Visual Studio product comparision. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-gb/vs2008/products/cc149003.aspx I've got a both copy of standard and pro and I certainly can't find it in the standard edition. If you could show me that would be ideal.
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You are coming to a sad realization...? :-\
Citizen 20.1.01
'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'
Yeah, all computers suck :)
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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Every single time I install somethinng, whether it be an update or an app. Also, every time I made a change to the Airport settings (which I've since figured out how to stop). As to the airport itself, the latest update from Apple turned it into a paper weight. I'll be heading back to the apple store, serious face in tow.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
I'm guessing you won't be getting an iPhone on Friday then... ;) I am frustrated that your experience has been so poor, sorry about that Chris. Ever thought about building a log cabin and becoming a lumberjack?
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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Andrew Bleakley wrote:
Try writing code for Macs - that makes using them a dream
I was drinking when I read that! I almost choked! I did that once, and once is once too many!
yep :laugh:
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Not according to the MS Visual Studio product comparision. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-gb/vs2008/products/cc149003.aspx I've got a both copy of standard and pro and I certainly can't find it in the standard edition. If you could show me that would be ideal.
Well, crap. It was in the Standard edition of 2005. Sucks that they took it out of 2008 Standard. :( Flynn
_If we can't corrupt the youth of today,
the adults of tomorrow will be no fun...
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Well, crap. It was in the Standard edition of 2005. Sucks that they took it out of 2008 Standard. :( Flynn
_If we can't corrupt the youth of today,
the adults of tomorrow will be no fun...
_Amen to that brother...
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Try writing code for Macs - that makes using them a dream
LOL One of the main reasons I switched to PCs for development. I just got absolutely sick of the state of development on the Mac. I figure I'll branch back eventually, when I can make my subplatform multi-platform itself, but I don't want to put up with it until I'm ready. Granted things might be a lot better now, it's been several years. But the fact that you can't use C++ really irks me (Carbon was just plain bad). There are a few things I miss--but mostly to do with the actual Mac platform (things like bundles) than the development thereof.
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Yes, that is very true. I remember how odd C++ looked when I had just come out of high school learning BASIC on an Apple ][e ( showing my age here :laugh: ). Then, after C++, found Java odd, learned it, then onto C#, and I have to say, I do like all three of the languages.
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
So why not to use Java for Mac programming? Your IDE will look the same (at least NetBeans is packaged for Mac SO too), language, librarties, frameworks, etc... Wasn't is Java that saved all the ***x OS from oblivion?
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So why not to use Java for Mac programming? Your IDE will look the same (at least NetBeans is packaged for Mac SO too), language, librarties, frameworks, etc... Wasn't is Java that saved all the ***x OS from oblivion?
Yeah, there always is Java :rolleyes:
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
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I am so, so sick of typing in my password every single time I want to do anything, and of apps crashing, and of things like the Airport Update rendering the Airport base station inoperative, and missing support for things like WMA files, and my USB drive, and all the other crap that Apple likes to thing only happens to PC users. I knew Apple was full of hot air and stretching the truth but it's now at the point of offensive. Get your house into order, Apple, before you think about slinging stones and arrows.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP