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Apple Does not 'Just work'

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  • D Dan Neely

    Trevortni wrote:

    can you seriously see Jobs letting Mac OS be licensed on anything other than his own proprietary hardware? Jobs is a control freak. It'll never happen.

    not legally, but there're lots of hackintosh guides out their for anyone who does want to do it.

    Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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    Trevortni
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    dan neely wrote:

    anyone who does want to do it

    I refer you back to my earlier response.

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    • I Ira Rainey

      OK, Express editions you got me there. Good products for the price, especially SQL Express. But there are limitations in the Express product set which MS puts in place to force your hand to buy the full version of Visual Studio. An example being if you want to be able to do Windows Mobile development you need the pro version.

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      Flynn Arrowstarr Regular Schmoe
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      Mobile development is also possible in the less-expensive Standard Edition. :) Flynn

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      • F Flynn Arrowstarr Regular Schmoe

        Mobile development is also possible in the less-expensive Standard Edition. :) Flynn

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        Ira Rainey
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        Not according to the MS Visual Studio product comparision. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-gb/vs2008/products/cc149003.aspx I've got a both copy of standard and pro and I certainly can't find it in the standard edition. If you could show me that would be ideal.

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        • S Shog9 0

          You are coming to a sad realization...? :-\

          Citizen 20.1.01

          'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'

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          Paul Watson
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          Yeah, all computers suck :)

          regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

          Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

          At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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          • C Chris Maunder

            Every single time I install somethinng, whether it be an update or an app. Also, every time I made a change to the Airport settings (which I've since figured out how to stop). As to the airport itself, the latest update from Apple turned it into a paper weight. I'll be heading back to the apple store, serious face in tow.

            cheers, Chris Maunder

            CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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            Paul Watson
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            I'm guessing you won't be getting an iPhone on Friday then... ;) I am frustrated that your experience has been so poor, sorry about that Chris. Ever thought about building a log cabin and becoming a lumberjack?

            regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

            Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

            At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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            • E El Corazon

              Andrew Bleakley wrote:

              Try writing code for Macs - that makes using them a dream

              I was drinking when I read that! I almost choked! I did that once, and once is once too many!

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              johannesnestler
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              yep :laugh:

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              • I Ira Rainey

                Not according to the MS Visual Studio product comparision. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-gb/vs2008/products/cc149003.aspx I've got a both copy of standard and pro and I certainly can't find it in the standard edition. If you could show me that would be ideal.

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                Flynn Arrowstarr Regular Schmoe
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                Well, crap. It was in the Standard edition of 2005. Sucks that they took it out of 2008 Standard. :( Flynn


                _If we can't corrupt the youth of today,
                the adults of tomorrow will be no fun...
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                • F Flynn Arrowstarr Regular Schmoe

                  Well, crap. It was in the Standard edition of 2005. Sucks that they took it out of 2008 Standard. :( Flynn


                  _If we can't corrupt the youth of today,
                  the adults of tomorrow will be no fun...
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                  Ira Rainey
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                  Amen to that brother...

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                  • A Andrew Bleakley

                    Try writing code for Macs - that makes using them a dream

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                    chaiguy1337
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                    LOL One of the main reasons I switched to PCs for development. I just got absolutely sick of the state of development on the Mac. I figure I'll branch back eventually, when I can make my subplatform multi-platform itself, but I don't want to put up with it until I'm ready. Granted things might be a lot better now, it's been several years. But the fact that you can't use C++ really irks me (Carbon was just plain bad). There are a few things I miss--but mostly to do with the actual Mac platform (things like bundles) than the development thereof.

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                    • P Paul Conrad

                      Yes, that is very true. I remember how odd C++ looked when I had just come out of high school learning BASIC on an Apple ][e ( showing my age here :laugh: ). Then, after C++, found Java odd, learned it, then onto C#, and I have to say, I do like all three of the languages.

                      "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                      dmitri_sps
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                      So why not to use Java for Mac programming? Your IDE will look the same (at least NetBeans is packaged for Mac SO too), language, librarties, frameworks, etc... Wasn't is Java that saved all the ***x OS from oblivion?

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                      • D dmitri_sps

                        So why not to use Java for Mac programming? Your IDE will look the same (at least NetBeans is packaged for Mac SO too), language, librarties, frameworks, etc... Wasn't is Java that saved all the ***x OS from oblivion?

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                        Paul Conrad
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                        Yeah, there always is Java :rolleyes:

                        "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                        • C Chris Maunder

                          I am so, so sick of typing in my password every single time I want to do anything, and of apps crashing, and of things like the Airport Update rendering the Airport base station inoperative, and missing support for things like WMA files, and my USB drive, and all the other crap that Apple likes to thing only happens to PC users. I knew Apple was full of hot air and stretching the truth but it's now at the point of offensive. Get your house into order, Apple, before you think about slinging stones and arrows.

                          cheers, Chris Maunder

                          CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                          mrdgreen
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                          How's house?

                          Interested in answers.

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