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    Rage
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    Could somebody tell me which features are NOT in the Visual C# Express edition but are in the normal one ? The Microsoft website only tells what is in, but not what is missing. Can you do something productive with it, or are essential parts missing ?

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      Could somebody tell me which features are NOT in the Visual C# Express edition but are in the normal one ? The Microsoft website only tells what is in, but not what is missing. Can you do something productive with it, or are essential parts missing ?

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      You can find this via google. The bottom line is that if you're on a budget, and you're buying it for home use, it makes sense to get the Standard version.

      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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        Could somebody tell me which features are NOT in the Visual C# Express edition but are in the normal one ? The Microsoft website only tells what is in, but not what is missing. Can you do something productive with it, or are essential parts missing ?

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        Dario Solera
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        No User Control designer support, no add-ins, each "language" has a separate application (VC#, VC++, VWD, etc.), but there are surely more features that the Express editions don't support.

        If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki

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          Could somebody tell me which features are NOT in the Visual C# Express edition but are in the normal one ? The Microsoft website only tells what is in, but not what is missing. Can you do something productive with it, or are essential parts missing ?

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          Gavin Taylor
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          Visual Studio 2008 Product Comparison[^]. Personally every important thing I use is missing from the express packages so I've never even bothered to really look at them.

          Gavin Taylor

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            Could somebody tell me which features are NOT in the Visual C# Express edition but are in the normal one ? The Microsoft website only tells what is in, but not what is missing. Can you do something productive with it, or are essential parts missing ?

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            The only things I miss from the Express editions is: 1. No multiple different projects in a solution. 2. No support for source control.

            xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
            IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 4a out now (29 May 2008)

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            • R Rage

              Could somebody tell me which features are NOT in the Visual C# Express edition but are in the normal one ? The Microsoft website only tells what is in, but not what is missing. Can you do something productive with it, or are essential parts missing ?

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              Dave Parker
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              No support for mobile PocketPC / Smartphone applications.

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                Could somebody tell me which features are NOT in the Visual C# Express edition but are in the normal one ? The Microsoft website only tells what is in, but not what is missing. Can you do something productive with it, or are essential parts missing ?

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                Currently no support for the Silverlight 2 Beta dev tools (or is that the other way round?).

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                  You can find this via google. The bottom line is that if you're on a budget, and you're buying it for home use, it makes sense to get the Standard version.

                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                  -----
                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                  hairy_hats
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                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                  The bottom line is that if you're on a budget, and you're buying it for home use, it makes sense to get the Standard version.

                  Depends on how serious you are, £270 (US$500*) for occasional hobby programming just isn't worth it. * - edit: Bastards! It's only $270 if you buy it in the US. Complete bastards.

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                    You can find this via google. The bottom line is that if you're on a budget, and you're buying it for home use, it makes sense to get the Standard version.

                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                    -----
                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                    Rage
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                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                    You can find this via google.

                    Precisely what I failed to do, that is why I asked here. The link Gavin provided was what I was looking for.

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                      Visual Studio 2008 Product Comparison[^]. Personally every important thing I use is missing from the express packages so I've never even bothered to really look at them.

                      Gavin Taylor

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                      Rage
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                      Thanks.

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                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                        The bottom line is that if you're on a budget, and you're buying it for home use, it makes sense to get the Standard version.

                        Depends on how serious you are, £270 (US$500*) for occasional hobby programming just isn't worth it. * - edit: Bastards! It's only $270 if you buy it in the US. Complete bastards.

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                        realJSOP
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                        Can you imagine how much the Pro version is if standard is equivalent to $500? Geeze.

                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                        • H hairy_hats

                          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                          The bottom line is that if you're on a budget, and you're buying it for home use, it makes sense to get the Standard version.

                          Depends on how serious you are, £270 (US$500*) for occasional hobby programming just isn't worth it. * - edit: Bastards! It's only $270 if you buy it in the US. Complete bastards.

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                          MidwestLimey
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                          I got VS2005 Standard for $10 :D


                          I'm largely language agnostic


                          After a while they all bug me :doh:


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                            Can you imagine how much the Pro version is if standard is equivalent to $500? Geeze.

                            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                            -----
                            "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                            hairy_hats
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                            $1030[^] or so. Bastards. Living in the UK is a total rip-off at times if you want to buy US-sourced products.

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                              $1030[^] or so. Bastards. Living in the UK is a total rip-off at times if you want to buy US-sourced products.

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                              Mladen Jankovic
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                              :wtf: MSDN Pro (with VS Pro) subscription costs only 170$ more!

                              [Genetic Algorithm Library]

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                                $1030[^] or so. Bastards. Living in the UK is a total rip-off at times if you want to buy US-sourced products.

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                                Brady Kelly
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                                Ha, you don't have an exchange rate of R7.73/USD. :( That works out close to my house payment.

                                Unscrambling Eggs: Decompiling ASP.NET

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                                  The only things I miss from the Express editions is: 1. No multiple different projects in a solution. 2. No support for source control.

                                  xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
                                  IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 4a out now (29 May 2008)

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                                  Brady Kelly
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                                  leppie wrote:

                                  1. No multiple different projects in a solution.

                                  WTF? :doh:

                                  leppie wrote:

                                  2. No support for source control.

                                  Has there ever been support for reliable source control?

                                  Unscrambling Eggs: Decompiling ASP.NET

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                                    The only things I miss from the Express editions is: 1. No multiple different projects in a solution. 2. No support for source control.

                                    xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
                                    IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 4a out now (29 May 2008)

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                                    Gideon Engelberth
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                                    You can, in fact, have multiple projects in a solution. They just have to be the same language. If you can't see the solution in the solution explorer, go to Tools->Options->Projects and Solutions and check "Always show solution". Then you can right-click on the solution and select Add->New Project...

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                                      You can, in fact, have multiple projects in a solution. They just have to be the same language. If you can't see the solution in the solution explorer, go to Tools->Options->Projects and Solutions and check "Always show solution". Then you can right-click on the solution and select Add->New Project...

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                                      leppie
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                                      Gideon Engelberth wrote:

                                      You can, in fact, have multiple projects in a solution. They just have to be the same language.

                                      Hence why I said "No multiple different projects in a solution." I guess 'mixed' would have been a better choice of word.

                                      xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
                                      IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 4a out now (29 May 2008)

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                                        $1030[^] or so. Bastards. Living in the UK is a total rip-off at times if you want to buy US-sourced products.

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                                        Marshall
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                                        Steve_Harris wrote:

                                        Living in the UK is a total rip-off at times if you want to buy US-sourced products.

                                        The higher price is to offset the cost of translating from American to English. :-D

                                        _If you continue to do the same things you always did,
                                        don't be surprised if you get the same results you always got.
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                                          I got VS2005 Standard for $10 :D


                                          I'm largely language agnostic


                                          After a while they all bug me :doh:


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                                          Hmmm...did it come with a clear case and a hand-written label by any chance? :-D

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