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  • R Rage

    Could somebody tell me which features are NOT in the Visual C# Express edition but are in the normal one ? The Microsoft website only tells what is in, but not what is missing. Can you do something productive with it, or are essential parts missing ?

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    realJSOP
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    You can find this via google. The bottom line is that if you're on a budget, and you're buying it for home use, it makes sense to get the Standard version.

    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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    • R Rage

      Could somebody tell me which features are NOT in the Visual C# Express edition but are in the normal one ? The Microsoft website only tells what is in, but not what is missing. Can you do something productive with it, or are essential parts missing ?

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      Dario Solera
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      No User Control designer support, no add-ins, each "language" has a separate application (VC#, VC++, VWD, etc.), but there are surely more features that the Express editions don't support.

      If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki

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      • R Rage

        Could somebody tell me which features are NOT in the Visual C# Express edition but are in the normal one ? The Microsoft website only tells what is in, but not what is missing. Can you do something productive with it, or are essential parts missing ?

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        Gavin Taylor
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        Visual Studio 2008 Product Comparison[^]. Personally every important thing I use is missing from the express packages so I've never even bothered to really look at them.

        Gavin Taylor

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        • R Rage

          Could somebody tell me which features are NOT in the Visual C# Express edition but are in the normal one ? The Microsoft website only tells what is in, but not what is missing. Can you do something productive with it, or are essential parts missing ?

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          leppie
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          The only things I miss from the Express editions is: 1. No multiple different projects in a solution. 2. No support for source control.

          xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
          IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 4a out now (29 May 2008)

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          • R Rage

            Could somebody tell me which features are NOT in the Visual C# Express edition but are in the normal one ? The Microsoft website only tells what is in, but not what is missing. Can you do something productive with it, or are essential parts missing ?

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            Dave Parker
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            No support for mobile PocketPC / Smartphone applications.

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            • R Rage

              Could somebody tell me which features are NOT in the Visual C# Express edition but are in the normal one ? The Microsoft website only tells what is in, but not what is missing. Can you do something productive with it, or are essential parts missing ?

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              hairy_hats
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              Currently no support for the Silverlight 2 Beta dev tools (or is that the other way round?).

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              • R realJSOP

                You can find this via google. The bottom line is that if you're on a budget, and you're buying it for home use, it makes sense to get the Standard version.

                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                -----
                "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                hairy_hats
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                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                The bottom line is that if you're on a budget, and you're buying it for home use, it makes sense to get the Standard version.

                Depends on how serious you are, £270 (US$500*) for occasional hobby programming just isn't worth it. * - edit: Bastards! It's only $270 if you buy it in the US. Complete bastards.

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                • R realJSOP

                  You can find this via google. The bottom line is that if you're on a budget, and you're buying it for home use, it makes sense to get the Standard version.

                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                  -----
                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                  Rage
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                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                  You can find this via google.

                  Precisely what I failed to do, that is why I asked here. The link Gavin provided was what I was looking for.

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                    Visual Studio 2008 Product Comparison[^]. Personally every important thing I use is missing from the express packages so I've never even bothered to really look at them.

                    Gavin Taylor

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                    Rage
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                    Thanks.

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                    • H hairy_hats

                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                      The bottom line is that if you're on a budget, and you're buying it for home use, it makes sense to get the Standard version.

                      Depends on how serious you are, £270 (US$500*) for occasional hobby programming just isn't worth it. * - edit: Bastards! It's only $270 if you buy it in the US. Complete bastards.

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                      realJSOP
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                      Can you imagine how much the Pro version is if standard is equivalent to $500? Geeze.

                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                      • H hairy_hats

                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                        The bottom line is that if you're on a budget, and you're buying it for home use, it makes sense to get the Standard version.

                        Depends on how serious you are, £270 (US$500*) for occasional hobby programming just isn't worth it. * - edit: Bastards! It's only $270 if you buy it in the US. Complete bastards.

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                        MidwestLimey
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                        I got VS2005 Standard for $10 :D


                        I'm largely language agnostic


                        After a while they all bug me :doh:


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                        • R realJSOP

                          Can you imagine how much the Pro version is if standard is equivalent to $500? Geeze.

                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                          -----
                          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                          hairy_hats
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                          $1030[^] or so. Bastards. Living in the UK is a total rip-off at times if you want to buy US-sourced products.

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                            $1030[^] or so. Bastards. Living in the UK is a total rip-off at times if you want to buy US-sourced products.

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                            Mladen Jankovic
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                            :wtf: MSDN Pro (with VS Pro) subscription costs only 170$ more!

                            [Genetic Algorithm Library]

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                              $1030[^] or so. Bastards. Living in the UK is a total rip-off at times if you want to buy US-sourced products.

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                              Brady Kelly
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                              Ha, you don't have an exchange rate of R7.73/USD. :( That works out close to my house payment.

                              Unscrambling Eggs: Decompiling ASP.NET

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                                The only things I miss from the Express editions is: 1. No multiple different projects in a solution. 2. No support for source control.

                                xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
                                IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 4a out now (29 May 2008)

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                                Brady Kelly
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                                leppie wrote:

                                1. No multiple different projects in a solution.

                                WTF? :doh:

                                leppie wrote:

                                2. No support for source control.

                                Has there ever been support for reliable source control?

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                                  The only things I miss from the Express editions is: 1. No multiple different projects in a solution. 2. No support for source control.

                                  xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
                                  IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 4a out now (29 May 2008)

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                                  Gideon Engelberth
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                                  You can, in fact, have multiple projects in a solution. They just have to be the same language. If you can't see the solution in the solution explorer, go to Tools->Options->Projects and Solutions and check "Always show solution". Then you can right-click on the solution and select Add->New Project...

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                                  • G Gideon Engelberth

                                    You can, in fact, have multiple projects in a solution. They just have to be the same language. If you can't see the solution in the solution explorer, go to Tools->Options->Projects and Solutions and check "Always show solution". Then you can right-click on the solution and select Add->New Project...

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                                    leppie
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                                    Gideon Engelberth wrote:

                                    You can, in fact, have multiple projects in a solution. They just have to be the same language.

                                    Hence why I said "No multiple different projects in a solution." I guess 'mixed' would have been a better choice of word.

                                    xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
                                    IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 4a out now (29 May 2008)

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                                    • H hairy_hats

                                      $1030[^] or so. Bastards. Living in the UK is a total rip-off at times if you want to buy US-sourced products.

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                                      Marshall
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                                      Steve_Harris wrote:

                                      Living in the UK is a total rip-off at times if you want to buy US-sourced products.

                                      The higher price is to offset the cost of translating from American to English. :-D

                                      _If you continue to do the same things you always did,
                                      don't be surprised if you get the same results you always got.
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                                      • M MidwestLimey

                                        I got VS2005 Standard for $10 :D


                                        I'm largely language agnostic


                                        After a while they all bug me :doh:


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                                        hairy_hats
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                                        Hmmm...did it come with a clear case and a hand-written label by any chance? :-D

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                                        • H hairy_hats

                                          Hmmm...did it come with a clear case and a hand-written label by any chance? :-D

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                                          dandy72
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                                          Steve_Harris wrote:

                                          Hmmm...did it come with a clear case and a hand-written label by any chance?

                                          Don't be so quick to judge. I got my full version of VS2008 Standard as a freebie at the Heroes Happen Here event.

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