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  • R Rage

    Could somebody tell me which features are NOT in the Visual C# Express edition but are in the normal one ? The Microsoft website only tells what is in, but not what is missing. Can you do something productive with it, or are essential parts missing ?

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    Gavin Taylor
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    Visual Studio 2008 Product Comparison[^]. Personally every important thing I use is missing from the express packages so I've never even bothered to really look at them.

    Gavin Taylor

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    • R Rage

      Could somebody tell me which features are NOT in the Visual C# Express edition but are in the normal one ? The Microsoft website only tells what is in, but not what is missing. Can you do something productive with it, or are essential parts missing ?

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      The only things I miss from the Express editions is: 1. No multiple different projects in a solution. 2. No support for source control.

      xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
      IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 4a out now (29 May 2008)

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      • R Rage

        Could somebody tell me which features are NOT in the Visual C# Express edition but are in the normal one ? The Microsoft website only tells what is in, but not what is missing. Can you do something productive with it, or are essential parts missing ?

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        Dave Parker
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        No support for mobile PocketPC / Smartphone applications.

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        • R Rage

          Could somebody tell me which features are NOT in the Visual C# Express edition but are in the normal one ? The Microsoft website only tells what is in, but not what is missing. Can you do something productive with it, or are essential parts missing ?

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          hairy_hats
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          Currently no support for the Silverlight 2 Beta dev tools (or is that the other way round?).

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          • realJSOPR realJSOP

            You can find this via google. The bottom line is that if you're on a budget, and you're buying it for home use, it makes sense to get the Standard version.

            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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            "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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            hairy_hats
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            John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

            The bottom line is that if you're on a budget, and you're buying it for home use, it makes sense to get the Standard version.

            Depends on how serious you are, £270 (US$500*) for occasional hobby programming just isn't worth it. * - edit: Bastards! It's only $270 if you buy it in the US. Complete bastards.

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            • realJSOPR realJSOP

              You can find this via google. The bottom line is that if you're on a budget, and you're buying it for home use, it makes sense to get the Standard version.

              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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              "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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              Rage
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              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

              You can find this via google.

              Precisely what I failed to do, that is why I asked here. The link Gavin provided was what I was looking for.

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                Visual Studio 2008 Product Comparison[^]. Personally every important thing I use is missing from the express packages so I've never even bothered to really look at them.

                Gavin Taylor

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                Rage
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                Thanks.

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                • H hairy_hats

                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                  The bottom line is that if you're on a budget, and you're buying it for home use, it makes sense to get the Standard version.

                  Depends on how serious you are, £270 (US$500*) for occasional hobby programming just isn't worth it. * - edit: Bastards! It's only $270 if you buy it in the US. Complete bastards.

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                  realJSOP
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                  Can you imagine how much the Pro version is if standard is equivalent to $500? Geeze.

                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                  • H hairy_hats

                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                    The bottom line is that if you're on a budget, and you're buying it for home use, it makes sense to get the Standard version.

                    Depends on how serious you are, £270 (US$500*) for occasional hobby programming just isn't worth it. * - edit: Bastards! It's only $270 if you buy it in the US. Complete bastards.

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                    I got VS2005 Standard for $10 :D


                    I'm largely language agnostic


                    After a while they all bug me :doh:


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                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                      Can you imagine how much the Pro version is if standard is equivalent to $500? Geeze.

                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                      $1030[^] or so. Bastards. Living in the UK is a total rip-off at times if you want to buy US-sourced products.

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                      • H hairy_hats

                        $1030[^] or so. Bastards. Living in the UK is a total rip-off at times if you want to buy US-sourced products.

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                        Mladen Jankovic
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                        :wtf: MSDN Pro (with VS Pro) subscription costs only 170$ more!

                        [Genetic Algorithm Library]

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                        • H hairy_hats

                          $1030[^] or so. Bastards. Living in the UK is a total rip-off at times if you want to buy US-sourced products.

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                          Brady Kelly
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                          Ha, you don't have an exchange rate of R7.73/USD. :( That works out close to my house payment.

                          Unscrambling Eggs: Decompiling ASP.NET

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                            The only things I miss from the Express editions is: 1. No multiple different projects in a solution. 2. No support for source control.

                            xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
                            IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 4a out now (29 May 2008)

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                            Brady Kelly
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                            leppie wrote:

                            1. No multiple different projects in a solution.

                            WTF? :doh:

                            leppie wrote:

                            2. No support for source control.

                            Has there ever been support for reliable source control?

                            Unscrambling Eggs: Decompiling ASP.NET

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                              The only things I miss from the Express editions is: 1. No multiple different projects in a solution. 2. No support for source control.

                              xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
                              IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 4a out now (29 May 2008)

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                              Gideon Engelberth
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                              You can, in fact, have multiple projects in a solution. They just have to be the same language. If you can't see the solution in the solution explorer, go to Tools->Options->Projects and Solutions and check "Always show solution". Then you can right-click on the solution and select Add->New Project...

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                                You can, in fact, have multiple projects in a solution. They just have to be the same language. If you can't see the solution in the solution explorer, go to Tools->Options->Projects and Solutions and check "Always show solution". Then you can right-click on the solution and select Add->New Project...

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                                leppie
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                                Gideon Engelberth wrote:

                                You can, in fact, have multiple projects in a solution. They just have to be the same language.

                                Hence why I said "No multiple different projects in a solution." I guess 'mixed' would have been a better choice of word.

                                xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
                                IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 4a out now (29 May 2008)

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                                • H hairy_hats

                                  $1030[^] or so. Bastards. Living in the UK is a total rip-off at times if you want to buy US-sourced products.

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                                  Marshall
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                                  Steve_Harris wrote:

                                  Living in the UK is a total rip-off at times if you want to buy US-sourced products.

                                  The higher price is to offset the cost of translating from American to English. :-D

                                  _If you continue to do the same things you always did,
                                  don't be surprised if you get the same results you always got.
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                                    I got VS2005 Standard for $10 :D


                                    I'm largely language agnostic


                                    After a while they all bug me :doh:


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                                    hairy_hats
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                                    Hmmm...did it come with a clear case and a hand-written label by any chance? :-D

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                                      Hmmm...did it come with a clear case and a hand-written label by any chance? :-D

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                                      dandy72
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                                      Steve_Harris wrote:

                                      Hmmm...did it come with a clear case and a hand-written label by any chance?

                                      Don't be so quick to judge. I got my full version of VS2008 Standard as a freebie at the Heroes Happen Here event.

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                                      • R Rage

                                        Could somebody tell me which features are NOT in the Visual C# Express edition but are in the normal one ? The Microsoft website only tells what is in, but not what is missing. Can you do something productive with it, or are essential parts missing ?

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                                        Ashley van Gerven
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                                        These are the main ones I think: - no class designer - minimal refactoring tools - no source control integration - no addins/macros - minimal debugging functionality - far less project templates - no installer projects (I think)

                                        "For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza

                                        CP article: SmartPager - a Flickr-style pager control with go-to-page popup layer.

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