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  • L leckey 0

    1st person singular: "was" I was walking my dog when an old lady hit me. 1st person plural, 2nd person, 3rd person: "were" We were walking along when a penguin came out of nowhere. You were my best friend. They were talking about you.

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    Vikram A Punathambekar
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    Nope. You misunderstood the context of my question.

    Cheers, Vıkram.


    "if abusing me makes you a credible then i better give u the chance which didnt get in real" - Adnan Siddiqi.

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      well, coliding 2 protons have absolutely no chance to create a durable, heavy enough black hole. but if any, i'm curious to know what's in there :)

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      Mladen Jankovic
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      toxcct wrote:

      coliding 2 protons

      Yeah, but what about their feelings?

      some crazy lunatic from anit-LHC group said:

      You've got these subatomic particles accelerated at great speeds for the sole purpose of being destroyed. No one thinks of the ethical implications of this, There's a limited supply of hadrons in the universe. Do we just want to go around destroying them? What if we run out? What if the hadrons can feel pain? Will we look back at this hundreds of years from now and regret it? Kinda like we do with the killing of bacteria with antibiotics now.

      [Genetic Algorithm Library]

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      • V Vikram A Punathambekar

        "In individuals, insanity is rare, but in groups, parties, nations, and epochs, it is the rule." – Friedrich Nietzsche.

        Cheers, Vıkram.


        "if abusing me makes you a credible then i better give u the chance which didnt get in real" - Adnan Siddiqi.

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        Lost User
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        Ah, as in a person is smart but people are dumb.

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        • V Vikram A Punathambekar

          "In individuals, insanity is rare, but in groups, parties, nations, and epochs, it is the rule." – Friedrich Nietzsche.

          Cheers, Vıkram.


          "if abusing me makes you a credible then i better give u the chance which didnt get in real" - Adnan Siddiqi.

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          El Corazon
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          Thank you for not using the usual quotes. :)

          _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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          • L Lost User

            Ah, as in a person is smart but people are dumb.

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            El Corazon
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            Trollslayer wrote:

            Ah, as in a person is smart but people are dumb.

            very much so.... I think that the intelligence of a group is equal to the lowest IQ minus the number of people in the group. :-D you quickly see how large groups can quickly degrade to animal behavior. :rolleyes:

            _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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            • E El Corazon

              fear of the unknown will always drive people to be irrational around that which they cannot understand. I am sure eventually we will screw ourselves, but not tomorrow. :-D

              _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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              Kevin McFarlane
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              And if we don't screw ourselves the sun eventually will - unless we've moved elsewhere by that time. :)

              Kevin

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              • K Kevin McFarlane

                And if we don't screw ourselves the sun eventually will - unless we've moved elsewhere by that time. :)

                Kevin

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                El Corazon
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                Kevin McFarlane wrote:

                And if we don't screw ourselves the sun eventually will

                Oh I am sure we'll find a way to screw it up ahead of schedule, if we live that long. :) I'm rather optimistic about man's ability to destroy. :) in that aspect we are one talented bunch! :-D

                _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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                • M Mladen Jankovic

                  toxcct wrote:

                  coliding 2 protons

                  Yeah, but what about their feelings?

                  some crazy lunatic from anit-LHC group said:

                  You've got these subatomic particles accelerated at great speeds for the sole purpose of being destroyed. No one thinks of the ethical implications of this, There's a limited supply of hadrons in the universe. Do we just want to go around destroying them? What if we run out? What if the hadrons can feel pain? Will we look back at this hundreds of years from now and regret it? Kinda like we do with the killing of bacteria with antibiotics now.

                  [Genetic Algorithm Library]

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                  El Corazon
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                  MLADEN JANKOVIC wrote:

                  Yeah, but what about their feelings?

                  But what if they want to be together.... "Strange attractors in my window of possible movement".

                  _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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                  • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                    I've heard enough from the people who want the LHC experiment to be stopped because they think it will cause the world (or even the universe) to end. :zzz: Having said that, if we do manage to screw ourselves out of existence, here's to you guys! :-D I would have liked to meet more of you, but I'm sure I will. ;)

                    Cheers, Vıkram.


                    "if abusing me makes you a credible then i better give u the chance which didnt get in real" - Adnan Siddiqi.

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                    code frog 0
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                    Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                    I would have liked to meet more of you, but I'm sure I will.

                    That was really funny Vikram. As usual I'm a fan of your take on humor. Good one. :-D

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                    • E El Corazon

                      Trollslayer wrote:

                      Ah, as in a person is smart but people are dumb.

                      very much so.... I think that the intelligence of a group is equal to the lowest IQ minus the number of people in the group. :-D you quickly see how large groups can quickly degrade to animal behavior. :rolleyes:

                      _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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                      Dan Neely
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                      El Corazon wrote:

                      I think that the intelligence of a group is equal to the lowest IQ minus the number of people in the group. Big Grin you quickly see how large groups can quickly degrade to animal behavior. Roll eyes

                      No, you're underestimating it. Your formula would have a large committee if geniuses still have genius level intelligence, which is obviously incorrect. The correct formula is [Min(All Members IQs)]/[Number of Members].

                      Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                      • E El Corazon

                        MLADEN JANKOVIC wrote:

                        Yeah, but what about their feelings?

                        But what if they want to be together.... "Strange attractors in my window of possible movement".

                        _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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                        Mladen Jankovic
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                        ...but we shouldn't force them, right? :)

                        [Genetic Algorithm Library]

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                        • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                          I don't mean to be a Grammar Nazi, but shouldn't it be "If I were falling off the edge...", rather than "If I was falling off the edge..."? I remember being taught in school that the former is right ("If the war were over tomorrow...*"). Just want to know if I'm right or wrong (or just sanctimonious :-D ). * Let's see who gets the reference right! :-D

                          Cheers, Vıkram.


                          "if abusing me makes you a credible then i better give u the chance which didnt get in real" - Adnan Siddiqi.

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                          Joe Woodbury
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                          I like this argument: "were" is a subjunctive form used in contrafactual constructions, whereas "was" is an indictive form used in situations involving propositions with unconfirmed facts.

                          Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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                          • D Dan Neely

                            El Corazon wrote:

                            I think that the intelligence of a group is equal to the lowest IQ minus the number of people in the group. Big Grin you quickly see how large groups can quickly degrade to animal behavior. Roll eyes

                            No, you're underestimating it. Your formula would have a large committee if geniuses still have genius level intelligence, which is obviously incorrect. The correct formula is [Min(All Members IQs)]/[Number of Members].

                            Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                            El Corazon
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                            you are correct. my formula was obviously flawed. I stand corrected. :doh:

                            _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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                            • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                              I've heard enough from the people who want the LHC experiment to be stopped because they think it will cause the world (or even the universe) to end. :zzz: Having said that, if we do manage to screw ourselves out of existence, here's to you guys! :-D I would have liked to meet more of you, but I'm sure I will. ;)

                              Cheers, Vıkram.


                              "if abusing me makes you a credible then i better give u the chance which didnt get in real" - Adnan Siddiqi.

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                              Ri Qen Sin
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                              This LHC experiment is like running unsafe code. Why couldn't they practice process isolation and bring this LHC somewhere physically disconnected from the Earth? That is assuming those worried people are actually right…

                              So the creationist says: Everything must have a designer. God designed everything. I say: Why is God the only exception? Why not make the "designs" (like man) exceptions and make God a creation of man?

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                              • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                                I don't mean to be a Grammar Nazi, but shouldn't it be "If I were falling off the edge...", rather than "If I was falling off the edge..."? I remember being taught in school that the former is right ("If the war were over tomorrow...*"). Just want to know if I'm right or wrong (or just sanctimonious :-D ). * Let's see who gets the reference right! :-D

                                Cheers, Vıkram.


                                "if abusing me makes you a credible then i better give u the chance which didnt get in real" - Adnan Siddiqi.

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                                Michael Dunn
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                                The subjunctive form "were" is strictly correct, but its use (especially in informal speech) is disappearing. Language changes like that over time.

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                                • K keyboard warrior

                                  El Corazon wrote:

                                  I am sure eventually we will screw ourselves

                                  so the glass is half empty i see...

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                                  peterchen
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                                  That's a problem that solves itself if you wait a bit. *takes a sip*

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                                    This LHC experiment is like running unsafe code. Why couldn't they practice process isolation and bring this LHC somewhere physically disconnected from the Earth? That is assuming those worried people are actually right…

                                    So the creationist says: Everything must have a designer. God designed everything. I say: Why is God the only exception? Why not make the "designs" (like man) exceptions and make God a creation of man?

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                                    Dan Neely
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                                    Because it costs ~$10k/pound to move stuff into orbit. If you could come up with a budget of several hundred trillion dollars...

                                    Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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