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  • A alex barylski

    Is it free though :P Virtual PC apparentlys sucks. :P Even with XP SP1a it's telling me I need to update to XP SP1. :(

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    Almost every piece of software I've come across in the last 5 years has said XP Service Pack 2...there was apparently a very big change in SP2, so you should get that instead of SP1...it had to do with memory management or some such...I couldn't install a lot of software unless I had SP2...just saying is all :)

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      Almost every piece of software I've come across in the last 5 years has said XP Service Pack 2...there was apparently a very big change in SP2, so you should get that instead of SP1...it had to do with memory management or some such...I couldn't install a lot of software unless I had SP2...just saying is all :)

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      Christian Graus
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      No,. it's to do with MS forcing people to get XP SP2. It's rarely, if ever, a real requirement.

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        Almost every piece of software I've come across in the last 5 years has said XP Service Pack 2...there was apparently a very big change in SP2, so you should get that instead of SP1...it had to do with memory management or some such...I couldn't install a lot of software unless I had SP2...just saying is all :)

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        alex barylski
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        I liked having my laptop run an older version of XP so I could test IE 6 and IE7 on different machines.. But now I have all machines running SP3 and thus I need the virtual machine to work...and it is now...as I'm posting this from IE6 under XP Home virtualiztion :P Apparently Virtual PC doesn't like or want D-LINK wireless hardware. I've googled like crazy and found very little on the subject. I plug my desktop into the wall though and fire up Virtual PC...bang no problems :P Cheers, Alex

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        • I Igor Vigdorchik

          As far as I know VPC does not support USB drives.

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          alex barylski
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          Is that the problem? I figured it was something to do with USB as the D-LINK installed kept telling m something like that...then I googled the hotfix and that is pretty much what it said... I'll continue googling and mybe find a fix or something :P

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            Christian Graus wrote:

            It runs windows XP on my Mac faster

            I'll second that based on my one student who ran VMFusion on his Mac. He was the only guy with a Mac in the class and it ran VS2005 quite nicely.

            "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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            Christian Graus
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            Yeah, my Mac Book Pro also runs VMWare, although it's not as high specced, it also runs fine.

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              Yeah, my Mac Book Pro also runs VMWare, although it's not as high specced, it also runs fine.

              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

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              Paul Conrad
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              My student's VB.NET apps ran pretty slick on the machine.

              "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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              • D DaveX86

                I was going to get a brand spankin new quad core 64 bit and I wanted to run 64 bit windows as the root and do 32 bit window, linux, etc as VM's. First...I don't even know if my Win XP Pro has 64 bit on it, and even if it does, whether I can run little 32 bit OS's in it.

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                Lost User
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                I use pretty much the same setup - with the 64bit version of VirtualBox in which I have 32 bit XP (to test my programs under a 32bit OS - it would be quite bad if they wouldn't work there)

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                • D DaveX86

                  ...while we are on the subject...what works best for everybody?...I haven't tried any of them yet but will be over the holidays?

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                  vmware is best hands down. I'm running vmware server 1.07 on two virtual domains on older computers. vmware utilized uP bandwidth much more efficiently than vpc. vmware manages disk and network resources more efficiently as well. vmware has a tool called converter which has allowed me to virtualize physical machines which is a life saver. I have used vpc and vmware server (the free products) and there is absolutely no comparison, vmware trumpts u$'s connectex product.

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                  (good guy)"Which is where?"

                  (bad guy)"To a responsible future in a properly managed world."
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                  • A alex barylski

                    I have VP2007 installed on my system running XPPRO I have everything installed and apparently working except... My real system uses a single wireless connection via a USB D-LINK adapter. My virtual OS XP Home does not seem to want to pick this up. Regardless of which USB port I plug the adapter into, no new hardware is found. When I ran the D-LINK installer it warned me about USB conflicts and having to upgrade to SP1 but that is going to be next to impossible considering I have no interent connection until the wireless works. Is there anyway I can get around this by changing parameters in the virtual OS -- IRQ numbers maybe? Cheers, Alex

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                    vpc is not going to see it until the host os see's it. Fix it first on the host.

                    MrPlankton

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                    (good guy)"Which is where?"

                    (bad guy)"To a responsible future in a properly managed world."
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                    • L Lost User

                      I use pretty much the same setup - with the 64bit version of VirtualBox in which I have 32 bit XP (to test my programs under a 32bit OS - it would be quite bad if they wouldn't work there)

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                      DaveX86
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                      I've been looking at VirtualBox...you like it? It doesn't sound like you're using 64 bit XP to run as the 'root'

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                        vmware is best hands down. I'm running vmware server 1.07 on two virtual domains on older computers. vmware utilized uP bandwidth much more efficiently than vpc. vmware manages disk and network resources more efficiently as well. vmware has a tool called converter which has allowed me to virtualize physical machines which is a life saver. I have used vpc and vmware server (the free products) and there is absolutely no comparison, vmware trumpts u$'s connectex product.

                        MrPlankton

                        (bad guy)"Fear is a hammer, and when the people are beaten finally to the conviction that their existence hangs by a frayed thread, they will be led where they need to go."

                        (good guy)"Which is where?"

                        (bad guy)"To a responsible future in a properly managed world."
                        Dean Koontz, The Good Guy

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                        DaveX86
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                        VMWare seems to have a lot of flavours...I just want something that's not gonna screw me :)

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                        • A alex barylski

                          Is that the problem? I figured it was something to do with USB as the D-LINK installed kept telling m something like that...then I googled the hotfix and that is pretty much what it said... I'll continue googling and mybe find a fix or something :P

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                          Igor Vigdorchik
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                          Most likely it is. I am running VPC at home and never had any issues connecting to the Internet from a guest OS but my connection is DSL.

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                          • D DaveX86

                            VMWare seems to have a lot of flavours...I just want something that's not gonna screw me :)

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                            MrPlankton
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                            Pick carefully, it's a pain to move vm's from one platform to another. Vmware server is free, as is the converter software. Good Luck!

                            MrPlankton

                            (bad guy)"Fear is a hammer, and when the people are beaten finally to the conviction that their existence hangs by a frayed thread, they will be led where they need to go."

                            (good guy)"Which is where?"

                            (bad guy)"To a responsible future in a properly managed world."
                            Dean Koontz, The Good Guy

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                            • M MrPlankton

                              vpc is not going to see it until the host os see's it. Fix it first on the host.

                              MrPlankton

                              (bad guy)"Fear is a hammer, and when the people are beaten finally to the conviction that their existence hangs by a frayed thread, they will be led where they need to go."

                              (good guy)"Which is where?"

                              (bad guy)"To a responsible future in a properly managed world."
                              Dean Koontz, The Good Guy

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                              alex barylski
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                              Heh...by host you mean my desktop? Didn't I say the connection was working? In anycase, I figured it all out and have a fully functioning Virtual PC running under XPPRO SP3 and virtualized XPHOME & Ubuntu so I can properlly test all my software. :)

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                              • M MrPlankton

                                Pick carefully, it's a pain to move vm's from one platform to another. Vmware server is free, as is the converter software. Good Luck!

                                MrPlankton

                                (bad guy)"Fear is a hammer, and when the people are beaten finally to the conviction that their existence hangs by a frayed thread, they will be led where they need to go."

                                (good guy)"Which is where?"

                                (bad guy)"To a responsible future in a properly managed world."
                                Dean Koontz, The Good Guy

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                                DaveX86
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                                Yeah, that's what I figured...how many times you have to install windows etc...if I had a nickel for every time I installed windows, I'd be hanging out with Big Bill. Thanks for the advice :)

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                                  vmware is best hands down. I'm running vmware server 1.07 on two virtual domains on older computers. vmware utilized uP bandwidth much more efficiently than vpc. vmware manages disk and network resources more efficiently as well. vmware has a tool called converter which has allowed me to virtualize physical machines which is a life saver. I have used vpc and vmware server (the free products) and there is absolutely no comparison, vmware trumpts u$'s connectex product.

                                  MrPlankton

                                  (bad guy)"Fear is a hammer, and when the people are beaten finally to the conviction that their existence hangs by a frayed thread, they will be led where they need to go."

                                  (good guy)"Which is where?"

                                  (bad guy)"To a responsible future in a properly managed world."
                                  Dean Koontz, The Good Guy

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                                  John M Drescher
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                                  Hmm. I totally gave up on vmware because of its horrid performance degradation on multi core / multi cpu amd boxes (3 to 5) years ago. I had 3 instances where server class multi core systems would have their guests grind to a halt after running vmware server for a week or so. And the only fix was to reboot the host, which I don't want to do for systems that are to be up 24/7.

                                  John

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                                  • A alex barylski

                                    I have VP2007 installed on my system running XPPRO I have everything installed and apparently working except... My real system uses a single wireless connection via a USB D-LINK adapter. My virtual OS XP Home does not seem to want to pick this up. Regardless of which USB port I plug the adapter into, no new hardware is found. When I ran the D-LINK installer it warned me about USB conflicts and having to upgrade to SP1 but that is going to be next to impossible considering I have no interent connection until the wireless works. Is there anyway I can get around this by changing parameters in the virtual OS -- IRQ numbers maybe? Cheers, Alex

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                                    I don't think VPC 2007 has USB support. for VM usage, try virtualbox from sun. but the best vm that i tried is vmware workstation 6.5 running ubuntu/xp pro sp2 side by side with vista ultimate as my main host. -cheers :cool:

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                                      ...while we are on the subject...what works best for everybody?...I haven't tried any of them yet but will be over the holidays?

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                                      leppie
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                                      Currently I am using VirtualBox, install/upgrade is a breeze, also the smallest download. No complaints so far.

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                                      • A alex barylski

                                        I have VP2007 installed on my system running XPPRO I have everything installed and apparently working except... My real system uses a single wireless connection via a USB D-LINK adapter. My virtual OS XP Home does not seem to want to pick this up. Regardless of which USB port I plug the adapter into, no new hardware is found. When I ran the D-LINK installer it warned me about USB conflicts and having to upgrade to SP1 but that is going to be next to impossible considering I have no interent connection until the wireless works. Is there anyway I can get around this by changing parameters in the virtual OS -- IRQ numbers maybe? Cheers, Alex

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                                        Jerry Hammond
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                                        VPC2007 will usually use whatever is your default device for your machine. On the VPC console, select but don't start the image you wish to check. Click settings and then select network adapter. You should now be able to select your NIC. HTH

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                                        • A alex barylski

                                          Is it free though :P Virtual PC apparentlys sucks. :P Even with XP SP1a it's telling me I need to update to XP SP1. :(

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                                          Jerry Hammond
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                                          It doesn't suck, you are just over thinking it. I run a bunch of VPC images for testing purposes and have never run into a problem.

                                          The world is a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed. —Sean O’Casey, Playwright

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