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  • A alex barylski

    I have VP2007 installed on my system running XPPRO I have everything installed and apparently working except... My real system uses a single wireless connection via a USB D-LINK adapter. My virtual OS XP Home does not seem to want to pick this up. Regardless of which USB port I plug the adapter into, no new hardware is found. When I ran the D-LINK installer it warned me about USB conflicts and having to upgrade to SP1 but that is going to be next to impossible considering I have no interent connection until the wireless works. Is there anyway I can get around this by changing parameters in the virtual OS -- IRQ numbers maybe? Cheers, Alex

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    MrPlankton
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    vpc is not going to see it until the host os see's it. Fix it first on the host.

    MrPlankton

    (bad guy)"Fear is a hammer, and when the people are beaten finally to the conviction that their existence hangs by a frayed thread, they will be led where they need to go."

    (good guy)"Which is where?"

    (bad guy)"To a responsible future in a properly managed world."
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      I use pretty much the same setup - with the 64bit version of VirtualBox in which I have 32 bit XP (to test my programs under a 32bit OS - it would be quite bad if they wouldn't work there)

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      DaveX86
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      I've been looking at VirtualBox...you like it? It doesn't sound like you're using 64 bit XP to run as the 'root'

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        vmware is best hands down. I'm running vmware server 1.07 on two virtual domains on older computers. vmware utilized uP bandwidth much more efficiently than vpc. vmware manages disk and network resources more efficiently as well. vmware has a tool called converter which has allowed me to virtualize physical machines which is a life saver. I have used vpc and vmware server (the free products) and there is absolutely no comparison, vmware trumpts u$'s connectex product.

        MrPlankton

        (bad guy)"Fear is a hammer, and when the people are beaten finally to the conviction that their existence hangs by a frayed thread, they will be led where they need to go."

        (good guy)"Which is where?"

        (bad guy)"To a responsible future in a properly managed world."
        Dean Koontz, The Good Guy

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        DaveX86
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        VMWare seems to have a lot of flavours...I just want something that's not gonna screw me :)

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        • A alex barylski

          Is that the problem? I figured it was something to do with USB as the D-LINK installed kept telling m something like that...then I googled the hotfix and that is pretty much what it said... I'll continue googling and mybe find a fix or something :P

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          Igor Vigdorchik
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          Most likely it is. I am running VPC at home and never had any issues connecting to the Internet from a guest OS but my connection is DSL.

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            VMWare seems to have a lot of flavours...I just want something that's not gonna screw me :)

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            MrPlankton
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            Pick carefully, it's a pain to move vm's from one platform to another. Vmware server is free, as is the converter software. Good Luck!

            MrPlankton

            (bad guy)"Fear is a hammer, and when the people are beaten finally to the conviction that their existence hangs by a frayed thread, they will be led where they need to go."

            (good guy)"Which is where?"

            (bad guy)"To a responsible future in a properly managed world."
            Dean Koontz, The Good Guy

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              vpc is not going to see it until the host os see's it. Fix it first on the host.

              MrPlankton

              (bad guy)"Fear is a hammer, and when the people are beaten finally to the conviction that their existence hangs by a frayed thread, they will be led where they need to go."

              (good guy)"Which is where?"

              (bad guy)"To a responsible future in a properly managed world."
              Dean Koontz, The Good Guy

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              alex barylski
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              Heh...by host you mean my desktop? Didn't I say the connection was working? In anycase, I figured it all out and have a fully functioning Virtual PC running under XPPRO SP3 and virtualized XPHOME & Ubuntu so I can properlly test all my software. :)

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                Pick carefully, it's a pain to move vm's from one platform to another. Vmware server is free, as is the converter software. Good Luck!

                MrPlankton

                (bad guy)"Fear is a hammer, and when the people are beaten finally to the conviction that their existence hangs by a frayed thread, they will be led where they need to go."

                (good guy)"Which is where?"

                (bad guy)"To a responsible future in a properly managed world."
                Dean Koontz, The Good Guy

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                DaveX86
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                Yeah, that's what I figured...how many times you have to install windows etc...if I had a nickel for every time I installed windows, I'd be hanging out with Big Bill. Thanks for the advice :)

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                  vmware is best hands down. I'm running vmware server 1.07 on two virtual domains on older computers. vmware utilized uP bandwidth much more efficiently than vpc. vmware manages disk and network resources more efficiently as well. vmware has a tool called converter which has allowed me to virtualize physical machines which is a life saver. I have used vpc and vmware server (the free products) and there is absolutely no comparison, vmware trumpts u$'s connectex product.

                  MrPlankton

                  (bad guy)"Fear is a hammer, and when the people are beaten finally to the conviction that their existence hangs by a frayed thread, they will be led where they need to go."

                  (good guy)"Which is where?"

                  (bad guy)"To a responsible future in a properly managed world."
                  Dean Koontz, The Good Guy

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                  John M Drescher
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                  Hmm. I totally gave up on vmware because of its horrid performance degradation on multi core / multi cpu amd boxes (3 to 5) years ago. I had 3 instances where server class multi core systems would have their guests grind to a halt after running vmware server for a week or so. And the only fix was to reboot the host, which I don't want to do for systems that are to be up 24/7.

                  John

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                  • A alex barylski

                    I have VP2007 installed on my system running XPPRO I have everything installed and apparently working except... My real system uses a single wireless connection via a USB D-LINK adapter. My virtual OS XP Home does not seem to want to pick this up. Regardless of which USB port I plug the adapter into, no new hardware is found. When I ran the D-LINK installer it warned me about USB conflicts and having to upgrade to SP1 but that is going to be next to impossible considering I have no interent connection until the wireless works. Is there anyway I can get around this by changing parameters in the virtual OS -- IRQ numbers maybe? Cheers, Alex

                    Blog Entry: 7 Software development best practices to make you more effective and productive PCSpectra :: Professional, Affordable PHP Programming, Web Development and Documentation

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                    TheCardinal
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                    I don't think VPC 2007 has USB support. for VM usage, try virtualbox from sun. but the best vm that i tried is vmware workstation 6.5 running ubuntu/xp pro sp2 side by side with vista ultimate as my main host. -cheers :cool:

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                    • D DaveX86

                      ...while we are on the subject...what works best for everybody?...I haven't tried any of them yet but will be over the holidays?

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                      leppie
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                      Currently I am using VirtualBox, install/upgrade is a breeze, also the smallest download. No complaints so far.

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                      • A alex barylski

                        I have VP2007 installed on my system running XPPRO I have everything installed and apparently working except... My real system uses a single wireless connection via a USB D-LINK adapter. My virtual OS XP Home does not seem to want to pick this up. Regardless of which USB port I plug the adapter into, no new hardware is found. When I ran the D-LINK installer it warned me about USB conflicts and having to upgrade to SP1 but that is going to be next to impossible considering I have no interent connection until the wireless works. Is there anyway I can get around this by changing parameters in the virtual OS -- IRQ numbers maybe? Cheers, Alex

                        Blog Entry: 7 Software development best practices to make you more effective and productive PCSpectra :: Professional, Affordable PHP Programming, Web Development and Documentation

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                        Jerry Hammond
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                        VPC2007 will usually use whatever is your default device for your machine. On the VPC console, select but don't start the image you wish to check. Click settings and then select network adapter. You should now be able to select your NIC. HTH

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                        • A alex barylski

                          Is it free though :P Virtual PC apparentlys sucks. :P Even with XP SP1a it's telling me I need to update to XP SP1. :(

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                          Jerry Hammond
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                          It doesn't suck, you are just over thinking it. I run a bunch of VPC images for testing purposes and have never run into a problem.

                          The world is a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed. —Sean O’Casey, Playwright

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                          • D DaveX86

                            Yeah, that's what I figured...how many times you have to install windows etc...if I had a nickel for every time I installed windows, I'd be hanging out with Big Bill. Thanks for the advice :)

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                            Gary R Wheeler
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                            David Lockwood wrote:

                            if I had a nickel for every time I installed windows

                            Same here. I do the installers for our products, and it's a PITA to debug. Previously I had to find a machine, remove extra hardware, re-install the OS, test the install, and then loop on the last two steps. With VirtualPC I save a copy of the virtual disk in the 'pre-installation' state, run the install, and copy the saved version back. My iteration time is down to a couple of minutes rather than an hour.

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                            • A alex barylski

                              I have VP2007 installed on my system running XPPRO I have everything installed and apparently working except... My real system uses a single wireless connection via a USB D-LINK adapter. My virtual OS XP Home does not seem to want to pick this up. Regardless of which USB port I plug the adapter into, no new hardware is found. When I ran the D-LINK installer it warned me about USB conflicts and having to upgrade to SP1 but that is going to be next to impossible considering I have no interent connection until the wireless works. Is there anyway I can get around this by changing parameters in the virtual OS -- IRQ numbers maybe? Cheers, Alex

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                              Joan M
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                              I don't know what can happen, but you can try to download the service pack from the XP Pro and install it into the XP Home...

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                              • D DaveX86

                                ...while we are on the subject...what works best for everybody?...I haven't tried any of them yet but will be over the holidays?

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                                Ed Poore
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                                Another vote for VMWare, however running it under Vista x64 and with 6GB of RAM it's fantastic.  Just updated to the latest 6.5 and it now supports "Unity" which is what Fusion had where you can run apps from the VM as windows inside the host rather than having a whole new copy of Windows. However I did have fun when I updated, if only this picture[^] were true...

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                                  David Lockwood wrote:

                                  if I had a nickel for every time I installed windows

                                  Same here. I do the installers for our products, and it's a PITA to debug. Previously I had to find a machine, remove extra hardware, re-install the OS, test the install, and then loop on the last two steps. With VirtualPC I save a copy of the virtual disk in the 'pre-installation' state, run the install, and copy the saved version back. My iteration time is down to a couple of minutes rather than an hour.

                                  Software Zen: delete this;
                                  Fold With Us![^]

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                                  That's pretty handy :)

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                                    Another vote for VMWare, however running it under Vista x64 and with 6GB of RAM it's fantastic.  Just updated to the latest 6.5 and it now supports "Unity" which is what Fusion had where you can run apps from the VM as windows inside the host rather than having a whole new copy of Windows. However I did have fun when I updated, if only this picture[^] were true...

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                                    DaveX86
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                                    59247 Mhz?...where can I get one of those? :)

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                                    • D DaveX86

                                      That's pretty handy :)

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                                      Gary R Wheeler
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                                      Yes it is. Since our installer includes an application, a couple dozen COM servers, several services, a couple device drivers, and may include the .NET framework and SQL Server 2005 Express, it's a wee bit tricky to get it all in place consistently. Having VirtualPC give me a consistent, reproducible test environment really helps.

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                                      • D DaveX86

                                        I've been looking at VirtualBox...you like it? It doesn't sound like you're using 64 bit XP to run as the 'root'

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                                        Lost User
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                                        It has some bugs.. but I like it what do you mean by 'root' though? I use XP x64 as host..

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                                          It has some bugs.. but I like it what do you mean by 'root' though? I use XP x64 as host..

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                                          DaveX86
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                                          That's what I wanted to know...XP 64 as the host :)

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