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Virtual PC XP Home running under Pro -- same wireless connection?

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  • D DaveX86

    ...while we are on the subject...what works best for everybody?...I haven't tried any of them yet but will be over the holidays?

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    leppie
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    Currently I am using VirtualBox, install/upgrade is a breeze, also the smallest download. No complaints so far.

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    • A alex barylski

      I have VP2007 installed on my system running XPPRO I have everything installed and apparently working except... My real system uses a single wireless connection via a USB D-LINK adapter. My virtual OS XP Home does not seem to want to pick this up. Regardless of which USB port I plug the adapter into, no new hardware is found. When I ran the D-LINK installer it warned me about USB conflicts and having to upgrade to SP1 but that is going to be next to impossible considering I have no interent connection until the wireless works. Is there anyway I can get around this by changing parameters in the virtual OS -- IRQ numbers maybe? Cheers, Alex

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      Jerry Hammond
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      VPC2007 will usually use whatever is your default device for your machine. On the VPC console, select but don't start the image you wish to check. Click settings and then select network adapter. You should now be able to select your NIC. HTH

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      • A alex barylski

        Is it free though :P Virtual PC apparentlys sucks. :P Even with XP SP1a it's telling me I need to update to XP SP1. :(

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        Jerry Hammond
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        It doesn't suck, you are just over thinking it. I run a bunch of VPC images for testing purposes and have never run into a problem.

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        • D DaveX86

          Yeah, that's what I figured...how many times you have to install windows etc...if I had a nickel for every time I installed windows, I'd be hanging out with Big Bill. Thanks for the advice :)

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          David Lockwood wrote:

          if I had a nickel for every time I installed windows

          Same here. I do the installers for our products, and it's a PITA to debug. Previously I had to find a machine, remove extra hardware, re-install the OS, test the install, and then loop on the last two steps. With VirtualPC I save a copy of the virtual disk in the 'pre-installation' state, run the install, and copy the saved version back. My iteration time is down to a couple of minutes rather than an hour.

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          • A alex barylski

            I have VP2007 installed on my system running XPPRO I have everything installed and apparently working except... My real system uses a single wireless connection via a USB D-LINK adapter. My virtual OS XP Home does not seem to want to pick this up. Regardless of which USB port I plug the adapter into, no new hardware is found. When I ran the D-LINK installer it warned me about USB conflicts and having to upgrade to SP1 but that is going to be next to impossible considering I have no interent connection until the wireless works. Is there anyway I can get around this by changing parameters in the virtual OS -- IRQ numbers maybe? Cheers, Alex

            Blog Entry: 7 Software development best practices to make you more effective and productive PCSpectra :: Professional, Affordable PHP Programming, Web Development and Documentation

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            Joan M
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            I don't know what can happen, but you can try to download the service pack from the XP Pro and install it into the XP Home...

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            • D DaveX86

              ...while we are on the subject...what works best for everybody?...I haven't tried any of them yet but will be over the holidays?

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              Ed Poore
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              Another vote for VMWare, however running it under Vista x64 and with 6GB of RAM it's fantastic.  Just updated to the latest 6.5 and it now supports "Unity" which is what Fusion had where you can run apps from the VM as windows inside the host rather than having a whole new copy of Windows. However I did have fun when I updated, if only this picture[^] were true...

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                David Lockwood wrote:

                if I had a nickel for every time I installed windows

                Same here. I do the installers for our products, and it's a PITA to debug. Previously I had to find a machine, remove extra hardware, re-install the OS, test the install, and then loop on the last two steps. With VirtualPC I save a copy of the virtual disk in the 'pre-installation' state, run the install, and copy the saved version back. My iteration time is down to a couple of minutes rather than an hour.

                Software Zen: delete this;
                Fold With Us![^]

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                That's pretty handy :)

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                  Another vote for VMWare, however running it under Vista x64 and with 6GB of RAM it's fantastic.  Just updated to the latest 6.5 and it now supports "Unity" which is what Fusion had where you can run apps from the VM as windows inside the host rather than having a whole new copy of Windows. However I did have fun when I updated, if only this picture[^] were true...

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                  DaveX86
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                  59247 Mhz?...where can I get one of those? :)

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                  • D DaveX86

                    That's pretty handy :)

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                    Gary R Wheeler
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                    Yes it is. Since our installer includes an application, a couple dozen COM servers, several services, a couple device drivers, and may include the .NET framework and SQL Server 2005 Express, it's a wee bit tricky to get it all in place consistently. Having VirtualPC give me a consistent, reproducible test environment really helps.

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                    • D DaveX86

                      I've been looking at VirtualBox...you like it? It doesn't sound like you're using 64 bit XP to run as the 'root'

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                      Lost User
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                      It has some bugs.. but I like it what do you mean by 'root' though? I use XP x64 as host..

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                        It has some bugs.. but I like it what do you mean by 'root' though? I use XP x64 as host..

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                        DaveX86
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                        That's what I wanted to know...XP 64 as the host :)

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                        • C Christian Graus

                          No,. it's to do with MS forcing people to get XP SP2. It's rarely, if ever, a real requirement.

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                          Kevin McFarlane
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                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          It's rarely, if ever, a real requirement

                          Probably not but I suspect you'll find that MS applications, at least, which specify it won't install unless SP2 is present right?

                          Kevin

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                          • J Jerry Hammond

                            VPC2007 will usually use whatever is your default device for your machine. On the VPC console, select but don't start the image you wish to check. Click settings and then select network adapter. You should now be able to select your NIC. HTH

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                            alex barylski
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                            That was eventually the fix, yup...I had to select SharedNetwork or somethign and voila everything worked :)

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                            • D DaveX86

                              ...while we are on the subject...what works best for everybody?...I haven't tried any of them yet but will be over the holidays?

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                              Member 96
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                              VMWare Workstation is the gold standard. Nothing else comes even close. We've gladly paid for it for years for testing and development. The others are mentioned a lot here because they are either free or come with Microsoft MSDN subscriptions.


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                                Yeah, I just replied to the other post, mentioning that I would like to run 64bit XP as the root and all the other 32 bit OS's as the VM's...can VMWare do that kind of thing?...there always seems to be some caveat in the docs...'when the planets align on tuesday of the third month and the second week of the third day and...' ...ya know?

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                                VMWare even allows you to run a 64bit guest os on a 32bit host as long as you have a 64bit processor.


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                                  VMWare Workstation is the gold standard. Nothing else comes even close. We've gladly paid for it for years for testing and development. The others are mentioned a lot here because they are either free or come with Microsoft MSDN subscriptions.


                                  "It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson

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                                  That was my impression, VMWare was the best...free is good though...I like free :)

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                                  • A alex barylski

                                    I have VP2007 installed on my system running XPPRO I have everything installed and apparently working except... My real system uses a single wireless connection via a USB D-LINK adapter. My virtual OS XP Home does not seem to want to pick this up. Regardless of which USB port I plug the adapter into, no new hardware is found. When I ran the D-LINK installer it warned me about USB conflicts and having to upgrade to SP1 but that is going to be next to impossible considering I have no interent connection until the wireless works. Is there anyway I can get around this by changing parameters in the virtual OS -- IRQ numbers maybe? Cheers, Alex

                                    Blog Entry: 7 Software development best practices to make you more effective and productive PCSpectra :: Professional, Affordable PHP Programming, Web Development and Documentation

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                                    Brad Bruce
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                                    IIRC Virtual PC doesn't have USB support AT ALL

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                                    • D DaveX86

                                      That's what I wanted to know...XP 64 as the host :)

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                                      Works fine - but be sure to use the AMD64 version of VirtualBox

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                                        Works fine - but be sure to use the AMD64 version of VirtualBox

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                                        DaveX86
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                                        Even if you have an Intel processor?

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                                        • D DaveX86

                                          Even if you have an Intel processor?

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                                          Of course.. The differences between EM64T and AMD64 are very small (mostly it's the bugs that are different..)

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