A day straight out of hell so far
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
Would the move to Oz at this time (I assume 6 months or so) be a good thing? Work wise?
If I can butt in here, and offer a few comments. I'm not fully up to date on the hiring climate in IT at the moment, but I have heard that a lot of finance/banking companies have shrunk their IT teams, and so the shortage of IT professionals that there was previously, is probably no longer the case. Who knows what it will be like in 6-12 months. But also depends entirely on your area - suggest you go to seek.com.au and see what matches up to your skills. As for immigration, a permanent visa application takes ages (8-12 months) to process (that's what I've been told). Also you generally need to get your degree/masters and experience assessed/accredited with ACS[^]. That takes a little while too. But you'll need to check this info and see what's relevant to your situation. Hope it helps. IMO the weather and lifestyle here is generally great. Much more of an outdoor culture of course. Rent and property is expensive in the cities, but might well be on par with europe (i.e. ratio of your income).
Please, I'm looking for some honest feed back here.
Ashley van Gerven wrote:
Thanks, going through it now.
Ashley van Gerven wrote:
As for immigration, a permanent visa application takes ages (8-12 months) to process
True.
Ashley van Gerven wrote:
Also you generally need to get your degree/masters and experience assessed/accredited with ACS[^]. That takes a little while too.
Ah, I didn't know about that. No worries, its 10-12 weeks which is alright.
Ashley van Gerven wrote:
IMO the weather and lifestyle here is generally great. Much more of an outdoor culture of course.
We were talking about that last night my wife and I :) Kept on joking about kangaroo hunting trips :laugh: (inside joke)
Ashley van Gerven wrote:
but might well be on par with europe (i.e. ratio of your income)
Wow, that high?
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I meant that locally its a religious holiday :) Didn't know about the labor day thing. Christian, your ear is to the ground and I can count on you to give me straight answer with 0 embellishments and half an inch short of harassment. Would the move to Oz at this time (I assume 6 months or so) be a good thing? Work wise?
Labour day is not a national holiday in Australia; Every state has an independent labor holiday. It is celebrated in March in Victoria/Tasmania, in May in Queensland, etc. Therefore, it is unlikely that Australian embassy was closed anywhere because of some local Australian state holiday. Work wise, it is ugly and it gets only worse. Great country, but not a great time I am afraid.
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Australia!!! Way to go mate! :-D
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Labour day is not a national holiday in Australia; Every state has an independent labor holiday. It is celebrated in March in Victoria/Tasmania, in May in Queensland, etc. Therefore, it is unlikely that Australian embassy was closed anywhere because of some local Australian state holiday. Work wise, it is ugly and it gets only worse. Great country, but not a great time I am afraid.
Really? What makes you say that? I'm not being critical, I just want to know so that I can plan better.
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Please, I'm looking for some honest feed back here.
Ashley van Gerven wrote:
Thanks, going through it now.
Ashley van Gerven wrote:
As for immigration, a permanent visa application takes ages (8-12 months) to process
True.
Ashley van Gerven wrote:
Also you generally need to get your degree/masters and experience assessed/accredited with ACS[^]. That takes a little while too.
Ah, I didn't know about that. No worries, its 10-12 weeks which is alright.
Ashley van Gerven wrote:
IMO the weather and lifestyle here is generally great. Much more of an outdoor culture of course.
We were talking about that last night my wife and I :) Kept on joking about kangaroo hunting trips :laugh: (inside joke)
Ashley van Gerven wrote:
but might well be on par with europe (i.e. ratio of your income)
Wow, that high?
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
Wow, that high?
I should have emphasised *MIGHT* :-D I actually don't have too much of a clue on what that ratio is in europe - I just know it's expensive in Oz compared to US, and I've heard rent ain't cheap in UK either - so they might not be that different. Depends on your job and city/suburb as always tho doesn't it...
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
kangaroo hunting
I think they are culled in parts. Not sure about hunting. Anyway the meat is quite tough :)
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Germans don't have humor, they drink beer and eat bratwurst. Wheee, pissed off another nation!
Wout
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so if i was a guest in zimbabwe i should be praising that despot too should i? criticizing a country for flagrant abuses against humanity is the duty of all citizens of the world imho ... and instead of being patriotic about one piece of rock why not try being the same way about the whole planet and all who live on it? oh what? you can't cos there's no flag to wave? oh shame and where do you get off attacking me personally for an opinion about a country? look to your own before mouthing off about someone else in future X|
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Really? What makes you say that? I'm not being critical, I just want to know so that I can plan better.
Oh, just some personal experiences. I am between contracts at the moment, and situation has certainly deteriorated since last year. There are still some jobs on the market, it hasn't entirely dried out, but it's much tougher to get one. About 80-90% of the contracts here in Queensland are now the government ones, private sector has almost stopped hiring. Hourly rates have gone down markedly, and we are now starting to see the beginning of the predatorial job advertisements. None of this is new for the IT, it happened before back in 2000. It took us some time, actually years to recover. Sadly, good times only lasted for a few years this time (2006-2008). Australia is, more than other developed countries, exposed to the influence of boom and bust cycles. It is not only the IT thing, tourism or mining are just the same. Situation swings widely; For the majority of people last 12-13 years were ok, but historically industries were on the mercy of these cycles. Mining towns in central Queensland were unable to attract truck drivers by offering 150K last year - some of these towns are now all but abandoned as a result of the downturn. With only six months between the extremes. Never forget that Australia is a small market after all. Only 22 million of isolated individuals living in endless yet empty country. I might be overly pessimistic, actually I had a number of calls today (after a while). There are bad things here, and there are some fantastic things here as well. Just as is the case anywhere else. Cheers,
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god what a complete loser you are! X|
"mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"
You may not care, but when people sum up, they conclude you to be the looser. Just take this as a game, don't take it so seriously. Now I call you a perfect looser because you lost the game so terribly when there was really any no need to. Just with your tit for tat reply to Elaine, you lost the entire point. Now nobody would understand what you are trying to say. They all got so drunk and are already on drugs. Now no matter how you much scream you'll be flamed. Honestly, I find 0% wrong with your initial posts. You have the right to say you don't like a country. That's 100 percent valid. It was a knee jerk reaction from Elaine. If you had replied to her with a plain message saying "there's no need you must get offended, it's my personal view, can you please shut up?", I bet you were the winner. You bonehead, lost with your temper. This doesn't mean I'm so against Elaine, but I really felt shocked about the way people jumping on you. You can be happy about something. If you felt somebody is totally wrong, they are just *******. It looks it's true. So you can tag them up for your future reference ;). But before tagging them up , just get settled otherwise you'll end up tagging everyone.
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
Wow, that high?
I should have emphasised *MIGHT* :-D I actually don't have too much of a clue on what that ratio is in europe - I just know it's expensive in Oz compared to US, and I've heard rent ain't cheap in UK either - so they might not be that different. Depends on your job and city/suburb as always tho doesn't it...
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
kangaroo hunting
I think they are culled in parts. Not sure about hunting. Anyway the meat is quite tough :)
Ashley van Gerven wrote:
I should have emphasised *MIGHT* Big Grin I actually don't have too much of a clue on what that ratio is in europe - I just know it's expensive in Oz compared to US, and I've heard rent ain't cheap in UK either - so they might not be that different. Depends on your job and city/suburb as always tho doesn't it...
A friend of mine, living in London nearly 10 years ago was paying 650 pounds sterling a week for residence and nothing else, no utility bills no nothing. It was studio. That, is what I would classy as astronomically high.
Ashley van Gerven wrote:
I think they are culled in parts. Not sure about hunting. Anyway the meat is quite tough
I'd assume that they would be culled because they'd be "pests" to some farmers. If its meat, I'll try it once. Heck, I've tried practically every sort of meat that could be bought or hunted in Canada and China. Bear meat is like chewing extra tough tires, but surprisingly tasty. But like I said, it was an inside joke. If we were to say, hunt in the presence of my wife, then I'll instantly be translated into being the prey. She has the vet on speed dial and she's the one that takes care of all the stray animals in the neighborhood.
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Ashley van Gerven wrote:
I should have emphasised *MIGHT* Big Grin I actually don't have too much of a clue on what that ratio is in europe - I just know it's expensive in Oz compared to US, and I've heard rent ain't cheap in UK either - so they might not be that different. Depends on your job and city/suburb as always tho doesn't it...
A friend of mine, living in London nearly 10 years ago was paying 650 pounds sterling a week for residence and nothing else, no utility bills no nothing. It was studio. That, is what I would classy as astronomically high.
Ashley van Gerven wrote:
I think they are culled in parts. Not sure about hunting. Anyway the meat is quite tough
I'd assume that they would be culled because they'd be "pests" to some farmers. If its meat, I'll try it once. Heck, I've tried practically every sort of meat that could be bought or hunted in Canada and China. Bear meat is like chewing extra tough tires, but surprisingly tasty. But like I said, it was an inside joke. If we were to say, hunt in the presence of my wife, then I'll instantly be translated into being the prey. She has the vet on speed dial and she's the one that takes care of all the stray animals in the neighborhood.
Depends how much you earn I guess. If it was more than a third of his net income, then I'd agree - crazy rent!
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