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  • C CARPETBURNER

    Now im not one for second guessing Xerox wanting to change the fundamental laws of the universe.. but.. The primary purpose of the DATA statement is to give names to constants; instead of referring to pi as 3.141592653589793 at every appearance, the variable PI can be given that value with a DATA statement and used instead of the longer form of the constant. This also simplifies modifying the program, should the value of pi change." - FORTRAN manual for Xerox computers ?????

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    Dan Neely
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    *cough*noneuclideangeometry*cough*

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      GriffinPeter wrote:

      should the value of pi change

      But how can they know? No-one has ever found an exact numerical representation of pi. How do you know it has changed, if you never knew previous the value?

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      Rajesh R Subramanian
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      Nobody has found the exact value of pi doesn't mean that it is a variable. It *is* a constant.

      It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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      • D Dan Neely

        *cough*noneuclideangeometry*cough*

        It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains. -- Pride and Prejudice and Zombies

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        Rajesh R Subramanian
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        dan neely wrote:

        *cough*noneuclideangeometry*cough*

        A cough before and after every word you type?! That sounds nasty. You must see a doctor. :)

        It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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          Dalek Dave wrote:

          Also of interest is the Feynman Point.

          But not as interesting as the Sticky Bead Argument :thumbsup:

          Ali

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          hairy_hats
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          Alison Pentland wrote:

          the Sticky Bead Argument

          Is that KSS? :laugh:

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          • L leppie

            GriffinPeter wrote:

            should the value of pi change

            But how can they know? No-one has ever found an exact numerical representation of pi. How do you know it has changed, if you never knew previous the value?

            xacc.ide
            IronScheme - 1.0 beta 3 - out now!
            ((lambda (x) `((lambda (x) ,x) ',x)) '`((lambda (x) ,x) ',x))

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            Chris Maunder
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            Exactly. It's only been calculated to a trillion digits, and if you hardcode that and then someone calculates it to a quadrillion then you're going to feel a little silly having to update the value of pi each place you hardcoded it.

            cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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            • C CARPETBURNER

              Now im not one for second guessing Xerox wanting to change the fundamental laws of the universe.. but.. The primary purpose of the DATA statement is to give names to constants; instead of referring to pi as 3.141592653589793 at every appearance, the variable PI can be given that value with a DATA statement and used instead of the longer form of the constant. This also simplifies modifying the program, should the value of pi change." - FORTRAN manual for Xerox computers ?????

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              Chris Losinger
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              sounds like a very dry joke, to me.

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                I always thought that 9 was a bit too much. Can you knock it down to 8.5 for me?

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                Dario Solera
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                No, sorry, I only work with integers. It must be either 8 or 9.

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                  Alison Pentland wrote:

                  the Sticky Bead Argument

                  Is that KSS? :laugh:

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                  LittleYellowBird
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                  :-O Of course!

                  Ali

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                  • L LittleYellowBird

                    Dalek Dave wrote:

                    Also of interest is the Feynman Point.

                    But not as interesting as the Sticky Bead Argument :thumbsup:

                    Ali

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                    Dalek Dave
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                    Another of Feynman's mind games eh?

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                      Well you never know what could happen in the universe. That's fine assumption. I usually create constants for all the decimal digits 0-9 so that I can change the value if I need it.

                      If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki

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                      Chris Meech
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                      Yeah, but what happens when a new number is discovered between 6 an 7? :)

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                      • D Dalek Dave

                        Another of Feynman's mind games eh?

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                        LittleYellowBird
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                        ;)

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                        • C Chris Maunder

                          Exactly. It's only been calculated to a trillion digits, and if you hardcode that and then someone calculates it to a quadrillion then you're going to feel a little silly having to update the value of pi each place you hardcoded it.

                          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                          Chris Maunder wrote:

                          Exactly. It's only been calculated to a trillion digits, and if you hardcode that and then someone calculates it to a quadrillion then you're going to feel a little silly having to update the value of pi each place you hardcoded it.

                          Isn't that what Search and Replace is for?

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                            Chris Maunder wrote:

                            Exactly. It's only been calculated to a trillion digits, and if you hardcode that and then someone calculates it to a quadrillion then you're going to feel a little silly having to update the value of pi each place you hardcoded it.

                            Isn't that what Search and Replace is for?

                            Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                            Xiangyang Liu
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                            Michael Martin wrote:

                            Isn't that what Search and Replace is for?

                            Ok, let me see, search for a trillion digit value in your source files and replace it with a quadrillion digit value? When that is done your great great grandson will be born. :)

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                              Michael Martin wrote:

                              Isn't that what Search and Replace is for?

                              Ok, let me see, search for a trillion digit value in your source files and replace it with a quadrillion digit value? When that is done your great great grandson will be born. :)

                              My .NET Business Application Framework My Home Page My Younger Son & His "PET"

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                              Brady Kelly
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                              The regex would be simple. :)

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                                Well you never know what could happen in the universe. That's fine assumption. I usually create constants for all the decimal digits 0-9 so that I can change the value if I need it.

                                If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki

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                                Joe Woodbury
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                                I worked with some guys who previously had some offshore developers actually do that after they were told to change the hardcoded numbers to constants. (So statements like x += 2; got changed to x += TWO;. It's fortunate they didn't use pi, else it would have become THREE_POINT_ONE_FOUR_ONE_FIVE_NINE.... )

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                                  Michael Martin wrote:

                                  Isn't that what Search and Replace is for?

                                  Ok, let me see, search for a trillion digit value in your source files and replace it with a quadrillion digit value? When that is done your great great grandson will be born. :)

                                  My .NET Business Application Framework My Home Page My Younger Son & His "PET"

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                                  Rajesh R Subramanian
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                                  Xiangyang Liu 刘向阳 wrote:

                                  When that is done your great great grandson will be born.

                                  Uh ooh... This is how babby is formed?!

                                  It is a crappy thing, but it's life -^ Carlo Pallini

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