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  • L Lost User

    I just don't understand... Why is it that I score really low on a development assement test on the basic concepts and I max out on advanced concepts? I have been professionaly developing for 16 years and as a hobby for 28. Is: (byte)a = b >> 8; really a basic concept? I didn't even use it befor writing intermediate graphics apps? I´m just a developerr And I love like my work I don´t mind the money at all I see lots of new faces And lots of bad cases of Folks with bad taste. But I need four screens around me To hold on to my life, To keep me from going dot * And a computer Budda To watch me at night To keep me from slipping away I can highlight your bad code I can laugh at your jokes I can watch you fall down on your knees I can terminate your apps I can gas up my car I can pack up and mail in the key But I need four screens around me To hold on to my life To keep me from going away Now the banter fills the air In the board rooms during my review And i´m thinking ´bout Where i´d rather be But I burned all my bridges I sank all ships and I´m stranded at the edge of the shell prompt But I need eight gig's and 2 cpu's To hold on to my life To keep me from going away And a computer Budda To watch me at night To keep me from slipping away X|

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    Lost User
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    Awww! My eyes! My eyes! My brain! I'm meeeeltiiiiing... Too much geekyness? :-D When you write a poem about something (or even copy-paste it from somewhere else), you just gotta know you're a fanatic of the subject in the poem, which in this case is also called "a geek". Ever played Portal, BTW? At the end there's a really neat song about a geeky female computer that does science and experiments on people. Your poem sort of reminded me of that. C'mon! Don't tell me you don't know what I'm talking about. :laugh: Another thought: maybe you should stick to poetry. :doh: (byte)a = b << 8; sort of makes sense for me, in case you wanted a quick way to divide b by 2^8, and if b were not a char, OR if you wanted to get bits 7-15 of an x-bit variable, where x is a power of 2 greater than 16. Sorry to say this, but you're just a geek on this one. (i.e., as advertised on TV)

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      Haha! :laugh: The code was ambigious (I have seen things like this on BrainBench, esp. the core Java and C#). The poety is a rendition of Trish Yerwood's 'Bartender Blues'. Guess I just go with the absolute of 'Let the compiler sort it out'.

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      Rob Graham
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      TheArchitectualizer wrote:

      f 'Let the compiler sort it out'.

      So you've discovered a compiler with working intention prediction? There is no excuse for writing ambiguous code. Maintainers should be permitted to poke the original author of crap like this with sharp sticks. In a month you wont remember what it was that you really meant. What happens when the vendor decides the compiler implementation was non-standard/wrong and changes how this compiles in a new version?

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        TheArchitectualizer wrote:

        f 'Let the compiler sort it out'.

        So you've discovered a compiler with working intention prediction? There is no excuse for writing ambiguous code. Maintainers should be permitted to poke the original author of crap like this with sharp sticks. In a month you wont remember what it was that you really meant. What happens when the vendor decides the compiler implementation was non-standard/wrong and changes how this compiles in a new version?

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        I read study the language specification first all the way down to the op code and JIT. I don't write code the specification doesn't impliment.

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        • L Lost User

          Awww! My eyes! My eyes! My brain! I'm meeeeltiiiiing... Too much geekyness? :-D When you write a poem about something (or even copy-paste it from somewhere else), you just gotta know you're a fanatic of the subject in the poem, which in this case is also called "a geek". Ever played Portal, BTW? At the end there's a really neat song about a geeky female computer that does science and experiments on people. Your poem sort of reminded me of that. C'mon! Don't tell me you don't know what I'm talking about. :laugh: Another thought: maybe you should stick to poetry. :doh: (byte)a = b << 8; sort of makes sense for me, in case you wanted a quick way to divide b by 2^8, and if b were not a char, OR if you wanted to get bits 7-15 of an x-bit variable, where x is a power of 2 greater than 16. Sorry to say this, but you're just a geek on this one. (i.e., as advertised on TV)

          modified on Monday, July 6, 2009 10:01 AM

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          Hmm, what is 'a' and 'b'? My point, bit shifting is not an everyday OO operation in C#. If you need fast code, use C or ASM.

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          • P PIEBALDconsult

            Other than the ability to briefly explain an "incorrect" answer, I had no opportunity to discuss the problems with the test with the recruiter.

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            Member 1709723
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            yeah, right, like that would have made a difference most i know would be like talking to a rock- i said most! not all - i do know a handful of decent ones

            icalburner

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              yeah, right, like that would have made a difference most i know would be like talking to a rock- i said most! not all - i do know a handful of decent ones

              icalburner

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              Lost User
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              Haha! :laugh: My college optics professor told us one day: 'I can teach optics to a rock...' He is a master at realy dry humor. It's not logical, stack overflow!

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              • L Lost User

                Hmm, what is 'a' and 'b'? My point, bit shifting is not an everyday OO operation in C#. If you need fast code, use C or ASM.

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                Eric J
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                It must be nice to only work with highly abstracted data types. You clearly don't do any bit bashing, unlike many of us (it is not restricted to low-level programming). I do it fairly often in my code, so maybe I'm doing something wrong.

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                  It must be nice to only work with highly abstracted data types. You clearly don't do any bit bashing, unlike many of us (it is not restricted to low-level programming). I do it fairly often in my code, so maybe I'm doing something wrong.

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                  Donno! :confused: Mostly write bus apps. Can't do anything interesting there. In my free time, which I have lots of these days, I research what I consider low level stuff. Most primitave code I worked on was some geo spatial stuff, but I used Lab View Math Lab and other mathematical packages...

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                  • L Lost User

                    Just to prove the point I took the free C# BB test. Test: C# Date: 05-Jul-2009 Score: 2.56 Weights: 100% C# Elapsed time: 27 min 40 sec C# Score: 2.56 Percentile: Scored higher than 27% of previous examinees Demonstrates a solid understanding of core concepts within this topic. Appears capable of working on most projects in this area with moderate assistance. May require some initial assistance with advanced concepts, however. Strong Areas Value and Reference Types Weak Areas Grammar Developing Data Consumers and Services Methods Properties, Indexers, and Fields I failed! Min passing 2.76. Here are some of the tings I'm talking about: if (a > b) c = 'a'; else { if (b == d) c = 'e'; else c = 'b'; } a) c = (b = d) ? 'e' : ((a > b) ? 'a' : 'b'); b) c = (b == d) ? 'e' : (a > b) ? 'a' : 'b'; c) c = (a > b) ? 'a' : (b = d) ? 'e' : 'b'; d) c = (a > b) ? 'a' : (b == d) ? 'e' : 'b'; e) c = (a > b) ? 'a' : ((b = d) ? 'e' : 'b'); ...and... public void A() { byte a, b, c; a = 255; b = 122; c = (byte)(a & b); } ...and... 'Which one of the following compilers' flag turns on run-time integer range checking? '

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                    Jonas Hammarberg
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                    While I was hanging out at getafreelancer.com these gigs "Create a automatic test for subject such and such" frequently turned up... Lowest bider was _always_ selected -- which maybe could explain the (sub)quality of these tests... Cheers /Jonas

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                    • L Lost User

                      Hmm, what is 'a' and 'b'? My point, bit shifting is not an everyday OO operation in C#. If you need fast code, use C or ASM.

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                      TheArchitectualizer wrote:

                      Hmm, what is 'a' and 'b'?

                      ; I'll need more of the code to figure that out. However, I can tell you that if b is not declared as something larger than char, then all this code does is put 0 in a. :|

                      TheArchitectualizer wrote:

                      If you need fast code, use C or ASM.

                      I do. :P

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                      • L Lost User

                        Just to prove the point I took the free C# BB test. Test: C# Date: 05-Jul-2009 Score: 2.56 Weights: 100% C# Elapsed time: 27 min 40 sec C# Score: 2.56 Percentile: Scored higher than 27% of previous examinees Demonstrates a solid understanding of core concepts within this topic. Appears capable of working on most projects in this area with moderate assistance. May require some initial assistance with advanced concepts, however. Strong Areas Value and Reference Types Weak Areas Grammar Developing Data Consumers and Services Methods Properties, Indexers, and Fields I failed! Min passing 2.76. Here are some of the tings I'm talking about: if (a > b) c = 'a'; else { if (b == d) c = 'e'; else c = 'b'; } a) c = (b = d) ? 'e' : ((a > b) ? 'a' : 'b'); b) c = (b == d) ? 'e' : (a > b) ? 'a' : 'b'; c) c = (a > b) ? 'a' : (b = d) ? 'e' : 'b'; d) c = (a > b) ? 'a' : (b == d) ? 'e' : 'b'; e) c = (a > b) ? 'a' : ((b = d) ? 'e' : 'b'); ...and... public void A() { byte a, b, c; a = 255; b = 122; c = (byte)(a & b); } ...and... 'Which one of the following compilers' flag turns on run-time integer range checking? '

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                        TheArchitectualizer wrote:

                        Just to prove the point I took the free C# BB test.

                        Y'all have me curious - what is the link to that site? Are you referring to the C# test available at Brainbench or some other site?

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                        • E E Anderson

                          TheArchitectualizer wrote:

                          Just to prove the point I took the free C# BB test.

                          Y'all have me curious - what is the link to that site? Are you referring to the C# test available at Brainbench or some other site?

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                          Yup!

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