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Has anyone else gotten really disillusioned with programming recently? In the last year or so I've gotten really bored with it, it seems that much of what's considered "new" in the last 5-8 years is just rehashed stuff, and it's become really hard to work up much enthusiasm to spend extra time on it. When I started back in 1995, the industry, or at least the little that I was aware of, seemed much more dynamic. Now it just feels stagnant, and most of the things that I do find myself interested in seem like dead end technology. Many of the things that have become popular, like web "programming", just make me cringe. Part of this, I think, is that having gone through the process of learning multiple frameworks, multiple languages on multiple operating systems, using a variety of different toolchains, it all starts to become just "more of the same". So there's not that much "new" to learn in something like WPF, for example. It's just more of the same thing, with a few twists here and there, but it's not that much of a stretch anymore. Another issue is the way it's reported on in both the general media (say a magazine like Time) or even in tech specialist sites (excluding CP of course!). The willingness of any of these places to ask even the simplest of questions regarding "new" or "innovative" technology is nothing short of astonishing. Stuff I've seen reporting on is done in such an incredibly shallow, and frequently incorrect, manner that it's just depressing in the extreme. Has anyone else run into this? If so, what got you over the "hump", so to speak?
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Yep, I've encountered and am going through the exact same thing right now. I don't have a solution yet, but I think it will sort itself out eventually. The trouble to me is that when you eventually distill each problem down, it is still fundamentally data in -> processing -> data out. Sure there are all sots of complexities, but when it comes right down to it, that is all there is. As the industry matures, the problems become seemingly less and less challenging. I liken it to the manufacturing industry. Early on the industry was all about who could make the most innovative methods of manufacturing, solving extremely challenging problems of how to make this or that, or get this or that product into a certain shape. As the majority of these problems were solved, the focus instead shifted to the product side - what sort of product can we make to make people happier, or that people will buy? It became less a technical challen to that of a creative one instead. That is where I feel I am at now. Really when push comes to shove, is there any technical problem that you solve eventually? I am assuming of course that it is solvable at all. Find the right tools, do soem research, write some software, and problem solved. It is the same old process again and again, it is just the tools that are changing. So the future - I think it will be more about how the technology is applied, rather than the technology itself. There really isn't that much new stuff out there. What is popular now was popular 20 years ago. But as to your actual quesetion, how to get over the hump. I'm not sure. Right now I'm pursuing other things, like writing or reading novels, and spending time with the kids. I do my day job of programming that lets me spend time doing other things. So not much help from me I'm afraid, which sort of makes me wonder why I posted in the first place eh?
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Has anyone else gotten really disillusioned with programming recently? In the last year or so I've gotten really bored with it, it seems that much of what's considered "new" in the last 5-8 years is just rehashed stuff, and it's become really hard to work up much enthusiasm to spend extra time on it. When I started back in 1995, the industry, or at least the little that I was aware of, seemed much more dynamic. Now it just feels stagnant, and most of the things that I do find myself interested in seem like dead end technology. Many of the things that have become popular, like web "programming", just make me cringe. Part of this, I think, is that having gone through the process of learning multiple frameworks, multiple languages on multiple operating systems, using a variety of different toolchains, it all starts to become just "more of the same". So there's not that much "new" to learn in something like WPF, for example. It's just more of the same thing, with a few twists here and there, but it's not that much of a stretch anymore. Another issue is the way it's reported on in both the general media (say a magazine like Time) or even in tech specialist sites (excluding CP of course!). The willingness of any of these places to ask even the simplest of questions regarding "new" or "innovative" technology is nothing short of astonishing. Stuff I've seen reporting on is done in such an incredibly shallow, and frequently incorrect, manner that it's just depressing in the extreme. Has anyone else run into this? If so, what got you over the "hump", so to speak?
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Yeah Some sort of and thinking to switch to something else(my secondary option will be the designing). But I think there is no way to escape. as spending this much year in programming and then to start another thing seems little difficult.
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I would have to whole heartedly agree that much of what is "new" today is a re-hash of yesteryear. Allot of the business-centric tech is, well, boring. However, there really is some truly new stuff out there. Most of it is "incrementally new", not revolutionary. Take wireless networking and wireless communications. While the low-level ideas are not new, thanks to the continuous progress of hardware, things are getting smaller and more powerful which is opening new possibilities. Mobile technologies that were dreams 20 years ago are realities now. Touch capabilities while far from new, are much better today, so much so that new opportunities are emerging. General human input devices beyond keyboards, mice, touch screens and even speech are finally becoming realities. 3d presentation of information is finally starting to come around. (I think 3d has a very long way to go, but there's a technology I wouldn't mind riding along with.) Gaming technology and immersive environments that could not even be imagined 20 years ago are starting to become possible. Robotics, wow, robotics is moving ahead at a tremendous pace. That's just to name a few areas of software-related technology, there are many, many more exciting "new" technologies and opportunities out there. Some promises from the past like artificial intelligence have not developed as many would have hoped. I think we are coming around to the enormous difficulties and challenges with this concept. Even so, there are many bi-products of AI that are useful and mainstream today. Textual analysis used by search engines and other systems is a distant bi-product of AI research. Allot of the medical scanning systems incorporate bi-products of AI to accomplish the processing feats that they need to. For me, I find allot of doldrums in typical day-to-day business software. While the code is new, the ideas aren't and it is rarely exciting (except when given unreasonable deadlines). But, it pays the bills and enables me to do other things that interest me much more. I've more-or-less given up on main stream media, both general media like CNN/FoxNews/MSN/whatever and tech-centric news like wired, MSDN (what a joke), even long-trusted magazine sources. The quality of reporting has indeed declined, so much so as to render much of it useless. So, you asked what I do to get over the hump. For me, I have tried to take my passion for software development and turn it in directions that are new and interesting. In my spare time, I am developing a mobile
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Has anyone else gotten really disillusioned with programming recently? In the last year or so I've gotten really bored with it, it seems that much of what's considered "new" in the last 5-8 years is just rehashed stuff, and it's become really hard to work up much enthusiasm to spend extra time on it. When I started back in 1995, the industry, or at least the little that I was aware of, seemed much more dynamic. Now it just feels stagnant, and most of the things that I do find myself interested in seem like dead end technology. Many of the things that have become popular, like web "programming", just make me cringe. Part of this, I think, is that having gone through the process of learning multiple frameworks, multiple languages on multiple operating systems, using a variety of different toolchains, it all starts to become just "more of the same". So there's not that much "new" to learn in something like WPF, for example. It's just more of the same thing, with a few twists here and there, but it's not that much of a stretch anymore. Another issue is the way it's reported on in both the general media (say a magazine like Time) or even in tech specialist sites (excluding CP of course!). The willingness of any of these places to ask even the simplest of questions regarding "new" or "innovative" technology is nothing short of astonishing. Stuff I've seen reporting on is done in such an incredibly shallow, and frequently incorrect, manner that it's just depressing in the extreme. Has anyone else run into this? If so, what got you over the "hump", so to speak?
¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow
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Jim Crafton wrote:
it seems that much of what's considered "new" in the last 5-8 years is just rehashed stuff
Haven't you just learnt more, so you now recognize the fads?
Jim Crafton wrote:
and most of the things that I do find myself interested in seem like dead end technology
In the nineties, the high goal were many-to-many relationships - plugging things and services together, swapping the single user desktop database for a multi-user server one without touching the app, etc. In the Naughties, w implemented that. Right now, we are either figuring out that this was a royally stupid idea, or we at least totally underestimated what it needs to make that work. In the Naughties, our toolchains got longer without getting much better. I am disillusioned with current developments, but not necessarily with the future. A few of the current technologies will mature and stick with us for the rest of our lives, the others will see the fate of DCOM and stuff - hysterically weird, but good improve-your-pension material for us old farts. Maybe we see some toolchain shrinkage: A single development environment that doesn't make me deal with the imperfections and error messages and broken tools of half a dozen technologies just to load and save some data. One where the components work out of the box, and cover 80% of the applications to be written. One that truly bridges the gap between the web and the desktop. One that doesn't make me write XML unless I feel that urge again.
Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
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In the Naughties, our toolchains got longer
I'm sorry, I just can't read that with a straight face... :laugh:
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Has anyone else gotten really disillusioned with programming recently? In the last year or so I've gotten really bored with it, it seems that much of what's considered "new" in the last 5-8 years is just rehashed stuff, and it's become really hard to work up much enthusiasm to spend extra time on it. When I started back in 1995, the industry, or at least the little that I was aware of, seemed much more dynamic. Now it just feels stagnant, and most of the things that I do find myself interested in seem like dead end technology. Many of the things that have become popular, like web "programming", just make me cringe. Part of this, I think, is that having gone through the process of learning multiple frameworks, multiple languages on multiple operating systems, using a variety of different toolchains, it all starts to become just "more of the same". So there's not that much "new" to learn in something like WPF, for example. It's just more of the same thing, with a few twists here and there, but it's not that much of a stretch anymore. Another issue is the way it's reported on in both the general media (say a magazine like Time) or even in tech specialist sites (excluding CP of course!). The willingness of any of these places to ask even the simplest of questions regarding "new" or "innovative" technology is nothing short of astonishing. Stuff I've seen reporting on is done in such an incredibly shallow, and frequently incorrect, manner that it's just depressing in the extreme. Has anyone else run into this? If so, what got you over the "hump", so to speak?
¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow
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yes. i think it's called "burnout". one way to get over the hump is to find yourself in the position of being unemployable unless you jump in and learn all these 'new' ways of doing the same old thing.
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Jim Crafton wrote:
Sure there is - a paycheck
There's far more to life than a paycheque. Do what you love to do with enthusiasm and enjoyment and money almost inevitably follows.
"I made this letter longer than usual because I lack the time to make it shorter." — Blaise Pascal
But do not make the "build it and they will come" mistake. It is vital to connect what you do with enthusiasm with those who are willing to give you money. I have worked for a number of outfits with outstanding technology that died painfully because they thought the technology by itself would be enough, and failed to do intelligent marketing. That isn't to say that marketing is just throwing money into websites and advertising. It is really a function of the dispassionate observation of the environment you're in, combined with highly creative ways to help people understand how you can help them. My wife is a piano technician and is building an increasingly successful piano business by doing this. In short, passion -> money only if the passion goes into both what you do and how you market it.
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Has anyone else gotten really disillusioned with programming recently? In the last year or so I've gotten really bored with it, it seems that much of what's considered "new" in the last 5-8 years is just rehashed stuff, and it's become really hard to work up much enthusiasm to spend extra time on it. When I started back in 1995, the industry, or at least the little that I was aware of, seemed much more dynamic. Now it just feels stagnant, and most of the things that I do find myself interested in seem like dead end technology. Many of the things that have become popular, like web "programming", just make me cringe. Part of this, I think, is that having gone through the process of learning multiple frameworks, multiple languages on multiple operating systems, using a variety of different toolchains, it all starts to become just "more of the same". So there's not that much "new" to learn in something like WPF, for example. It's just more of the same thing, with a few twists here and there, but it's not that much of a stretch anymore. Another issue is the way it's reported on in both the general media (say a magazine like Time) or even in tech specialist sites (excluding CP of course!). The willingness of any of these places to ask even the simplest of questions regarding "new" or "innovative" technology is nothing short of astonishing. Stuff I've seen reporting on is done in such an incredibly shallow, and frequently incorrect, manner that it's just depressing in the extreme. Has anyone else run into this? If so, what got you over the "hump", so to speak?
¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow
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Jim Crafton wrote:
Has anyone else run into this? If so, what got you over the "hump", so to speak?
That's definitely where I'm at. I am though challenging myself to learn F# by programming a Texas Hold'em game, with some good algorithms for the 'bot players. Other than that, what interests me is the problems that need solving, not the technologies that solve them. In fact, a lot of the time, I seem to be fighting the technology to solve the problem, such as my recent run-in with getting some C++/STL code to work with multiple processors and dealing with the fact that Microsoft's core memory management stuff is NOT thread friendly. That pisses me off, when some tool that a professional company (supposedly) has written fails to do its job, and I end up having to work around the crap, distracting me from what I really want to get done. One other thing--to this day, I have never seen a technology actually improve the software development process, with the exception of my Interacx suite. Call me biased. ;) Marc
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Has anyone else gotten really disillusioned with programming recently? In the last year or so I've gotten really bored with it, it seems that much of what's considered "new" in the last 5-8 years is just rehashed stuff, and it's become really hard to work up much enthusiasm to spend extra time on it. When I started back in 1995, the industry, or at least the little that I was aware of, seemed much more dynamic. Now it just feels stagnant, and most of the things that I do find myself interested in seem like dead end technology. Many of the things that have become popular, like web "programming", just make me cringe. Part of this, I think, is that having gone through the process of learning multiple frameworks, multiple languages on multiple operating systems, using a variety of different toolchains, it all starts to become just "more of the same". So there's not that much "new" to learn in something like WPF, for example. It's just more of the same thing, with a few twists here and there, but it's not that much of a stretch anymore. Another issue is the way it's reported on in both the general media (say a magazine like Time) or even in tech specialist sites (excluding CP of course!). The willingness of any of these places to ask even the simplest of questions regarding "new" or "innovative" technology is nothing short of astonishing. Stuff I've seen reporting on is done in such an incredibly shallow, and frequently incorrect, manner that it's just depressing in the extreme. Has anyone else run into this? If so, what got you over the "hump", so to speak?
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Part of the problem is that you become trapped by the amount of money programming pays. However, if your passion continues to diminish, you won't enjoy life no matter how much you make. Programming is the new factory work. This trend will only grow stronger. My advice would be to explore other aspects of life and see if there are things that might be as fun today as programming was when you first got into the game. From that list, look for the ones with the potential to maintain the lifestyle that you currently enjoy. If you can find it, then do what many of us did - build the skills for the new career in your spare time while paying the bills with your current gig. It's a period of intense work, but the ability to transition to more fulfilling life makes it all worthwhile.
Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Copywriting Services
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Has anyone else gotten really disillusioned with programming recently? In the last year or so I've gotten really bored with it, it seems that much of what's considered "new" in the last 5-8 years is just rehashed stuff, and it's become really hard to work up much enthusiasm to spend extra time on it. When I started back in 1995, the industry, or at least the little that I was aware of, seemed much more dynamic. Now it just feels stagnant, and most of the things that I do find myself interested in seem like dead end technology. Many of the things that have become popular, like web "programming", just make me cringe. Part of this, I think, is that having gone through the process of learning multiple frameworks, multiple languages on multiple operating systems, using a variety of different toolchains, it all starts to become just "more of the same". So there's not that much "new" to learn in something like WPF, for example. It's just more of the same thing, with a few twists here and there, but it's not that much of a stretch anymore. Another issue is the way it's reported on in both the general media (say a magazine like Time) or even in tech specialist sites (excluding CP of course!). The willingness of any of these places to ask even the simplest of questions regarding "new" or "innovative" technology is nothing short of astonishing. Stuff I've seen reporting on is done in such an incredibly shallow, and frequently incorrect, manner that it's just depressing in the extreme. Has anyone else run into this? If so, what got you over the "hump", so to speak?
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I am as enthusiastic about writing code as I have ever been, and I've been a professional developer for 20 years now. I've recently started getting into IP Telephony and am writing some cool applications that our customers our lapping up.
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cut his heart out
Ha! Yeah but starting with the heart would be over too quick..... Cut their tongue out with a spoon first because the constant screaming would get on my nerves after a while.... :-)
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Has anyone else gotten really disillusioned with programming recently? In the last year or so I've gotten really bored with it, it seems that much of what's considered "new" in the last 5-8 years is just rehashed stuff, and it's become really hard to work up much enthusiasm to spend extra time on it. When I started back in 1995, the industry, or at least the little that I was aware of, seemed much more dynamic. Now it just feels stagnant, and most of the things that I do find myself interested in seem like dead end technology. Many of the things that have become popular, like web "programming", just make me cringe. Part of this, I think, is that having gone through the process of learning multiple frameworks, multiple languages on multiple operating systems, using a variety of different toolchains, it all starts to become just "more of the same". So there's not that much "new" to learn in something like WPF, for example. It's just more of the same thing, with a few twists here and there, but it's not that much of a stretch anymore. Another issue is the way it's reported on in both the general media (say a magazine like Time) or even in tech specialist sites (excluding CP of course!). The willingness of any of these places to ask even the simplest of questions regarding "new" or "innovative" technology is nothing short of astonishing. Stuff I've seen reporting on is done in such an incredibly shallow, and frequently incorrect, manner that it's just depressing in the extreme. Has anyone else run into this? If so, what got you over the "hump", so to speak?
¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow
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Jim Crafton wrote:
If so, what got you over the "hump", so to speak?
Learning something new and simple. I like creating neat, fun stuff. I don't like battling APIs. Try working in a technology that doesn't actually allow you to do a lot and you find yourself spending more time enjoying the challenge of coding instead of the challenge of battling through 8000 classes
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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peterchen wrote:
In the Naughties, our toolchains got longer
I'm sorry, I just can't read that with a straight face... :laugh:
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)
All thanks to the little blue pill (or is it purple, I never can remember...) :)
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Jim Crafton wrote:
If so, what got you over the "hump", so to speak?
Learning something new and simple. I like creating neat, fun stuff. I don't like battling APIs. Try working in a technology that doesn't actually allow you to do a lot and you find yourself spending more time enjoying the challenge of coding instead of the challenge of battling through 8000 classes
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
and simple
Yeah that's where I tend to have a wee bit of a problem :) I tend to like the really complex problems :) Writing a little notepad app has never interested me, instead I want to leap into writing a complex IDE with a syntax highlighting, multi-threaded AST code parser. Sigh. Must think smaller...
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yes. i think it's called "burnout". one way to get over the hump is to find yourself in the position of being unemployable unless you jump in and learn all these 'new' ways of doing the same old thing.
Have you had any luck yet? I take it you're still looking for work?
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Have you had any luck yet? I take it you're still looking for work?
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plenty of phone interviews, a few face-to-face interviews. but no, no luck. everyone wants a C# expert, and it's all about technical interviews. i can't count how many times i've had to explain the difference between 'string' and 'StringBuilder', and inner and out joins. i think i know the stuff, and i rarely get totally beat down by technical questions in these interviews. so i don't know why i'm not getting offers, but ... i'm not.
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plenty of phone interviews, a few face-to-face interviews. but no, no luck. everyone wants a C# expert, and it's all about technical interviews. i can't count how many times i've had to explain the difference between 'string' and 'StringBuilder', and inner and out joins. i think i know the stuff, and i rarely get totally beat down by technical questions in these interviews. so i don't know why i'm not getting offers, but ... i'm not.
At the risk of sounding cynical (shocking, I know) I'd guess they are wanting to hire cheap, and your experience is indicating a higher salary than they want to pay. Which sucks. Well I hope your luck changes soon, I'm sure something will turn up. Also, have you considered becoming a male escort? I hear that pays well. There's a bunch of wealthy ladies here in NYC who'd pay top dollar for that kind of thing... :)
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Jim Crafton wrote:
Has anyone else run into this? If so, what got you over the "hump", so to speak?
That's definitely where I'm at. I am though challenging myself to learn F# by programming a Texas Hold'em game, with some good algorithms for the 'bot players. Other than that, what interests me is the problems that need solving, not the technologies that solve them. In fact, a lot of the time, I seem to be fighting the technology to solve the problem, such as my recent run-in with getting some C++/STL code to work with multiple processors and dealing with the fact that Microsoft's core memory management stuff is NOT thread friendly. That pisses me off, when some tool that a professional company (supposedly) has written fails to do its job, and I end up having to work around the crap, distracting me from what I really want to get done. One other thing--to this day, I have never seen a technology actually improve the software development process, with the exception of my Interacx suite. Call me biased. ;) Marc
Marc Clifton wrote:
One other thing--to this day, I have never seen a technology actually improve the software development process, with the exception of my Interacx suite. Call me biased. Wink
That's just cause you've never used the VCF :) You're still stuck with the whole pansy C# stuff.
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At the risk of sounding cynical (shocking, I know) I'd guess they are wanting to hire cheap, and your experience is indicating a higher salary than they want to pay. Which sucks. Well I hope your luck changes soon, I'm sure something will turn up. Also, have you considered becoming a male escort? I hear that pays well. There's a bunch of wealthy ladies here in NYC who'd pay top dollar for that kind of thing... :)
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Jim Crafton wrote:
I'd guess they are wanting to hire cheap, and your experience is indicating a higher salary than they want to pay. Which sucks.
i have no doubt that's a factor. but i don't know how to convince them that i'm willing to work for much less than my years would dictate, as long as it's a decent job.
Jim Crafton wrote:
Also, have you considered becoming a male escort? I hear that pays well.
i'll look into it. but i'm not willing to relocate.
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Has anyone else gotten really disillusioned with programming recently? In the last year or so I've gotten really bored with it, it seems that much of what's considered "new" in the last 5-8 years is just rehashed stuff, and it's become really hard to work up much enthusiasm to spend extra time on it. When I started back in 1995, the industry, or at least the little that I was aware of, seemed much more dynamic. Now it just feels stagnant, and most of the things that I do find myself interested in seem like dead end technology. Many of the things that have become popular, like web "programming", just make me cringe. Part of this, I think, is that having gone through the process of learning multiple frameworks, multiple languages on multiple operating systems, using a variety of different toolchains, it all starts to become just "more of the same". So there's not that much "new" to learn in something like WPF, for example. It's just more of the same thing, with a few twists here and there, but it's not that much of a stretch anymore. Another issue is the way it's reported on in both the general media (say a magazine like Time) or even in tech specialist sites (excluding CP of course!). The willingness of any of these places to ask even the simplest of questions regarding "new" or "innovative" technology is nothing short of astonishing. Stuff I've seen reporting on is done in such an incredibly shallow, and frequently incorrect, manner that it's just depressing in the extreme. Has anyone else run into this? If so, what got you over the "hump", so to speak?
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I got bored with it years ago, but it's the only thing I know how to do well that pays decently and consistently, so I keep doing it. Only 13 more years till retirement. Or 15. Or 18. Or 20. Depends on all those investments, er, gambles turn out.