Do we really need Java runtime?
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Of course the crowd here will find this hard to believe, but there are some environments where Windows is NOT the dominant OS. In particular, among educators, Mac's are very popular. Consequently, work targeting educators often needs to be cross-platform (often involving even more exotic OS's; you know, like Linux ;) ), and hence, often involves the use of Java.
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Don't forget Electrical/Computer Engineers designing processors, asics, etc. Windows is simply not powerful enough to run the software that most people use (Cadence Open Source). Solaris / Linux / Java rules in that area. nanohub.org -- can't use its simulators without java. Also, since this is a windows-centric site, many of the regulars refuse to admit (or are in serious denial) that in the large scheme of things (neglecting gaming and lob-type apps) windows is simply a non-player, has-been or so far behind that it simply doesn't matter. ^ I won't even argue the above point, because if you're aware of the bigger computing picture you know what I'm talking about. That being said I like Windows because it does other things very well. And to top it all off: To this day I still have not come across one windows application that I use regularly that requires .Net runtimes. Anything I use regularly on Windows (AutoCAD, ESRI, etc) would simply cause .Net to commit suicide.
-Sean ---- Fire Nuts
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Gwenio wrote:
Yet I have it turned off on my laptop. If you decide to keep it, try going to Control Pannel and looking for "Java". The dialog this brings up should have an update tab where you can choose to make it not update without you premission and even make it not check for updates.
Thank you but this was the first thing I did and yet it persists in trying to download and install updates. Anyway I’m not going to investigate where the problem is; I’m going to get rid of it.
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Running Windows 7 or Vista? Try running javacpl.exe with admin rights, then set the option. You can find javacpl.exe in the java installation folder.
-Sean ---- Fire Nuts
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Java is currently the most popular programming language. http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html[^]
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
Last time I checked the average java programmer made more than the average C/C++/C#/VB programmer.
-Sean ---- Fire Nuts
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The LunaticFringe’s post bellow reminded me that I’m willing to ask this question from some time. I’m tired to fight with this annoying Java VM updates, which is impossible to be turned off. In fact I started to love UAC because of this – it’s my only friend against Java updates. So my question is what I’m going to miss if I just uninstall the thing? I’m not doing Java from years now and I hope I’ll never do it again, so development is not an issue. I don’t care about the websites build with Java – they are very few, so what I’m missing? BTW - Happy Friday to all!
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MySQL uses Java. And my company's product uses MySQL, so I'm going to be stuck with it for a long time.
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Java is currently the most popular programming language. http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html[^]
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
Is this some kind of joke? Where is the joke icon then? Programming Community index? MATLAB? Go? ActionScript? ABAP? SAS? And no Fortran, Cobol? Perl before Delphi??? WTF? Words fails me.
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Last time I checked the average java programmer made more than the average C/C++/C#/VB programmer.
-Sean ---- Fire Nuts
Sounds perfectly logical to me. The average Java programmer needs to be familiar with seven brazilian technologies in order to create a Hello World program. Such people are expensive.
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The LunaticFringe’s post bellow reminded me that I’m willing to ask this question from some time. I’m tired to fight with this annoying Java VM updates, which is impossible to be turned off. In fact I started to love UAC because of this – it’s my only friend against Java updates. So my question is what I’m going to miss if I just uninstall the thing? I’m not doing Java from years now and I hope I’ll never do it again, so development is not an issue. I don’t care about the websites build with Java – they are very few, so what I’m missing? BTW - Happy Friday to all!
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Once in a very long while I run across some web based app almost always put out by a university somewhere that I want to try out that requires java but it's getting fewer and farther between. Unless you need open office I think it's pointless.
Yesterday they said today was tomorrow but today they know better. - Poul Anderson
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I think OpenOffice uses Java for something or other. I think it's even part of the installer.
Bloatus Goatse uses Java as well.
Software Zen:
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Bloatus Goatse uses Java as well.
Software Zen:
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The association was deliberate, trust me. On my list of 'development teams put against the wall when the revolution comes', the Lotus Notes team is first, followed by the InstallShield team.
Software Zen:
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Java is currently the most popular programming language. http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html[^]
Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane
Have you read how the TIOBE index is assembled? http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/tpci_definition.htm[^] The ratings are calculated by counting hits of the most popular search engines. The search query that is used is +"<language> programming" Maybe the index is that high because Java raises the most questions... ;P
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The LunaticFringe’s post bellow reminded me that I’m willing to ask this question from some time. I’m tired to fight with this annoying Java VM updates, which is impossible to be turned off. In fact I started to love UAC because of this – it’s my only friend against Java updates. So my question is what I’m going to miss if I just uninstall the thing? I’m not doing Java from years now and I hope I’ll never do it again, so development is not an issue. I don’t care about the websites build with Java – they are very few, so what I’m missing? BTW - Happy Friday to all!
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the only thing i know of that uses it on my pc is the facebook picture uploader. i would remove it, but the wife may kill me :doh:
---Guy H ;-)---
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The LunaticFringe’s post bellow reminded me that I’m willing to ask this question from some time. I’m tired to fight with this annoying Java VM updates, which is impossible to be turned off. In fact I started to love UAC because of this – it’s my only friend against Java updates. So my question is what I’m going to miss if I just uninstall the thing? I’m not doing Java from years now and I hope I’ll never do it again, so development is not an issue. I don’t care about the websites build with Java – they are very few, so what I’m missing? BTW - Happy Friday to all!
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aspdotnetdev wrote:
but who uses Base anyway
All your base are belong to us. :laugh: ;)
WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.
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The LunaticFringe’s post bellow reminded me that I’m willing to ask this question from some time. I’m tired to fight with this annoying Java VM updates, which is impossible to be turned off. In fact I started to love UAC because of this – it’s my only friend against Java updates. So my question is what I’m going to miss if I just uninstall the thing? I’m not doing Java from years now and I hope I’ll never do it again, so development is not an issue. I don’t care about the websites build with Java – they are very few, so what I’m missing? BTW - Happy Friday to all!
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The form filler and checker of the Hungarian Tax Agency is written in Java - they were forced by the Linux community after become mandatory to use their software to do the "paperwork". It still has not the best UI but it became more advanced in two years than the previous one written in Delphi became in four years. Good libraries are treasure.
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The LunaticFringe’s post bellow reminded me that I’m willing to ask this question from some time. I’m tired to fight with this annoying Java VM updates, which is impossible to be turned off. In fact I started to love UAC because of this – it’s my only friend against Java updates. So my question is what I’m going to miss if I just uninstall the thing? I’m not doing Java from years now and I hope I’ll never do it again, so development is not an issue. I don’t care about the websites build with Java – they are very few, so what I’m missing? BTW - Happy Friday to all!
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I removed it from registry and I never get asked for updates. I do not think you will miss anything, practically no site uses Java these days.
Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
no site uses Java these days.
You mean, on your client side. On the back, good half do
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The LunaticFringe’s post bellow reminded me that I’m willing to ask this question from some time. I’m tired to fight with this annoying Java VM updates, which is impossible to be turned off. In fact I started to love UAC because of this – it’s my only friend against Java updates. So my question is what I’m going to miss if I just uninstall the thing? I’m not doing Java from years now and I hope I’ll never do it again, so development is not an issue. I don’t care about the websites build with Java – they are very few, so what I’m missing? BTW - Happy Friday to all!
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But my favourite IDEs are Java! But, no, I don't know of any killer apps in the desktop space so you probably don't really need it.
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The LunaticFringe’s post bellow reminded me that I’m willing to ask this question from some time. I’m tired to fight with this annoying Java VM updates, which is impossible to be turned off. In fact I started to love UAC because of this – it’s my only friend against Java updates. So my question is what I’m going to miss if I just uninstall the thing? I’m not doing Java from years now and I hope I’ll never do it again, so development is not an issue. I don’t care about the websites build with Java – they are very few, so what I’m missing? BTW - Happy Friday to all!
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Deyan Georgiev wrote:
which is impossible to be turned off.
Intall CCleaner http://download.piriform.com/ccsetup228.exe[^] Run CCleaner, go to Tools -> Startup Select the Java Updater and disable or delete it. May also want to disable a bunch of other junk that is running in the background. But to be save just disable them until you are sure everything works as expected. Then you can go back and delete them.
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