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Do we really need Java runtime?

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  • S Single Step Debugger

    The LunaticFringe’s post bellow reminded me that I’m willing to ask this question from some time. I’m tired to fight with this annoying Java VM updates, which is impossible to be turned off. In fact I started to love UAC because of this – it’s my only friend against Java updates. So my question is what I’m going to miss if I just uninstall the thing? I’m not doing Java from years now and I hope I’ll never do it again, so development is not an issue. I don’t care about the websites build with Java – they are very few, so what I’m missing? BTW - Happy Friday to all!

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    Member 96
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    Once in a very long while I run across some web based app almost always put out by a university somewhere that I want to try out that requires java but it's getting fewer and farther between. Unless you need open office I think it's pointless.


    Yesterday they said today was tomorrow but today they know better. - Poul Anderson

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    • A AspDotNetDev

      I think OpenOffice uses Java for something or other. I think it's even part of the installer.

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      Gary R Wheeler
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      Bloatus Goatse uses Java as well.

      Software Zen: delete this;
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      • G Gary R Wheeler

        Bloatus Goatse uses Java as well.

        Software Zen: delete this;
        Fold With Us![^]

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        Gary R. Wheeler wrote:

        Goatse

        Oh god, why'd you have to remind me of that! :wtf:

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        • A AspDotNetDev

          Gary R. Wheeler wrote:

          Goatse

          Oh god, why'd you have to remind me of that! :wtf:

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          Gary R Wheeler
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          The association was deliberate, trust me. On my list of 'development teams put against the wall when the revolution comes', the Lotus Notes team is first, followed by the InstallShield team.

          Software Zen: delete this;
          Fold With Us![^]

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          • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

            Java is currently the most popular programming language. http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html[^]

            Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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            johannesnestler
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            Have you read how the TIOBE index is assembled? http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/tpci_definition.htm[^] The ratings are calculated by counting hits of the most popular search engines. The search query that is used is +"<language> programming" Maybe the index is that high because Java raises the most questions... ;P

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            • S Single Step Debugger

              The LunaticFringe’s post bellow reminded me that I’m willing to ask this question from some time. I’m tired to fight with this annoying Java VM updates, which is impossible to be turned off. In fact I started to love UAC because of this – it’s my only friend against Java updates. So my question is what I’m going to miss if I just uninstall the thing? I’m not doing Java from years now and I hope I’ll never do it again, so development is not an issue. I don’t care about the websites build with Java – they are very few, so what I’m missing? BTW - Happy Friday to all!

              The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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              Guy Harwood
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              the only thing i know of that uses it on my pc is the facebook picture uploader. i would remove it, but the wife may kill me :doh:

              ---Guy H ;-)---

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              • S Single Step Debugger

                The LunaticFringe’s post bellow reminded me that I’m willing to ask this question from some time. I’m tired to fight with this annoying Java VM updates, which is impossible to be turned off. In fact I started to love UAC because of this – it’s my only friend against Java updates. So my question is what I’m going to miss if I just uninstall the thing? I’m not doing Java from years now and I hope I’ll never do it again, so development is not an issue. I don’t care about the websites build with Java – they are very few, so what I’m missing? BTW - Happy Friday to all!

                The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                ludemade
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                I hear Runescape is still based on Java. If you have a 12 year old son, you may want to keep Java until after he discovers girls. I think the girls thing cures the need for Runescape pretty reliably. :-D

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                • T Tom Delany

                  aspdotnetdev wrote:

                  but who uses Base anyway

                  All your base are belong to us. :laugh: ;)

                  WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.

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                  Dave Buhl
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                  Take off every zig!!![^] hahahaha

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                  • S Single Step Debugger

                    The LunaticFringe’s post bellow reminded me that I’m willing to ask this question from some time. I’m tired to fight with this annoying Java VM updates, which is impossible to be turned off. In fact I started to love UAC because of this – it’s my only friend against Java updates. So my question is what I’m going to miss if I just uninstall the thing? I’m not doing Java from years now and I hope I’ll never do it again, so development is not an issue. I don’t care about the websites build with Java – they are very few, so what I’m missing? BTW - Happy Friday to all!

                    The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                    Peter Adam
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                    The form filler and checker of the Hungarian Tax Agency is written in Java - they were forced by the Linux community after become mandatory to use their software to do the "paperwork". It still has not the best UI but it became more advanced in two years than the previous one written in Delphi became in four years. Good libraries are treasure.

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                    • S Single Step Debugger

                      The LunaticFringe’s post bellow reminded me that I’m willing to ask this question from some time. I’m tired to fight with this annoying Java VM updates, which is impossible to be turned off. In fact I started to love UAC because of this – it’s my only friend against Java updates. So my question is what I’m going to miss if I just uninstall the thing? I’m not doing Java from years now and I hope I’ll never do it again, so development is not an issue. I don’t care about the websites build with Java – they are very few, so what I’m missing? BTW - Happy Friday to all!

                      The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                      englebart
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                      If you aren't using it then uninstall it. If you do not uninstall it then you better update it! Most of the Java updates are to fix security holes. If you have refused the update for weeks, then you are at risk. We might be needing this later

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                      • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                        I removed it from registry and I never get asked for updates. I do not think you will miss anything, practically no site uses Java these days.

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                        User 4223959
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                        Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                        no site uses Java these days.

                        You mean, on your client side. On the back, good half do

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                        • S Single Step Debugger

                          The LunaticFringe’s post bellow reminded me that I’m willing to ask this question from some time. I’m tired to fight with this annoying Java VM updates, which is impossible to be turned off. In fact I started to love UAC because of this – it’s my only friend against Java updates. So my question is what I’m going to miss if I just uninstall the thing? I’m not doing Java from years now and I hope I’ll never do it again, so development is not an issue. I don’t care about the websites build with Java – they are very few, so what I’m missing? BTW - Happy Friday to all!

                          The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                          CurtainDog
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                          But my favourite IDEs are Java! But, no, I don't know of any killer apps in the desktop space so you probably don't really need it.

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                          • S Single Step Debugger

                            The LunaticFringe’s post bellow reminded me that I’m willing to ask this question from some time. I’m tired to fight with this annoying Java VM updates, which is impossible to be turned off. In fact I started to love UAC because of this – it’s my only friend against Java updates. So my question is what I’m going to miss if I just uninstall the thing? I’m not doing Java from years now and I hope I’ll never do it again, so development is not an issue. I don’t care about the websites build with Java – they are very few, so what I’m missing? BTW - Happy Friday to all!

                            The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                            Snowman58
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                            Deyan Georgiev wrote:

                            which is impossible to be turned off.

                            Intall CCleaner http://download.piriform.com/ccsetup228.exe[^] Run CCleaner, go to Tools -> Startup Select the Java Updater and disable or delete it. May also want to disable a bunch of other junk that is running in the background. But to be save just disable them until you are sure everything works as expected. Then you can go back and delete them.

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