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  • L Lost User

    Notepad2 is the best replacement ever for windows notepad. But, like you, it does not compare with NP++ But, I think we cant compare them, the target of use is very different, I like notepad2 to read logs, write text files, make some fast modification to source files, etc, but np++ comes better for scripting languages and files with a lot of lines of code. The plugin interface is very simple, I made a plugin for our source control system very easily, and there are a lot of usefulls plugins on the web, one that comes to my mind now is FunctionList, not very stable, but very very usefull, NppNetNote was another plugin that I found funny and usefull too. I've got both of them on my computer, and I am always using both

    Saludos!! ____Juan

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    leonej_dt
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    Personally, the only thing I find Notepad2 useful for is writing assembly. And even I, a confessed Real Programmer (in what is considered to be the bad sense of those words), don't write much assembly these days.

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    • D dazfuller

      Also consider PSPad[^]. I've been using it for years and its been nothing if not brilliant :)

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      MattPenner
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      +1 for PSPad. I used to use Notepad++ but I do a lot of regex and this support was really lacking in N++ at the time. Plus, sometimes I would do quick edits on websites when I didn't have my development computer. PSPad has a built-in FTP connection so that I can edit files directly on the server. This saved me from doing the whole dance of downloading a file in another program, editing it in N++, uploading it and checking the changes. The only thing I find lacking in PSPad is the syntax high-lighting isn't always true and it would be nice if it had better "Intellisense" type help. Sometimes it puts the closing brackets or parenthesis for me but I have to arrow over it. If I type it myself it adds an additional one rather than skipping over it like most advanced editors do.

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      • C Christopher Duncan

        I've been hauling around my trusty Codewright long after its commercial demise because I have it wired up just the way I like it. However, other viable alternatives that I know of in terms of horsepower are Multi Edit and Visual Slick Edit. I mention this because a guy I know who's just getting into some html / javascript coding (and doesn't use Visual Studio of any stripe) is using Notepad++. I was talking to him about the importance of having good tools. After visiting their home page I'm simply not sure if Notepad++ is just a bit more powerful than Notepad or it's a true programmer's editor in its own right and an equal to all the other ones (both mentioned and not mentioned). Anyone here have enough experience with it to offer comparisons?

        Christopher Duncan
        www.PracticalUSA.com
        Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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        janus toendering
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        Nobody has mentioned VIm and Emacs. Learning curves are quite a lot steeper but both editors are very powerful and customizable. They both have versions for Windows.

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        • L LloydA111

          Perhaps this will help you decide? http://xkcd.com/378/[^] :-O

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          Sterling Camden independent consultant
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          I love that one. Of course, all joking aside, real programmers use vim.

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          • D Drozzy

            Sooner or later someone has to mention it: Vi Gvim (for windows): http://www.vim.org/download.php#pc In windows I set gVim as default thing to open .py, .html, .tex files, but use Notepad2 for my .txt. In linux it's vi or gvim for everything.

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            Sterling Camden independent consultant
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            I use the console version of vim, even on Windows. It's just snappier.

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            • C Christopher Duncan

              I've been hauling around my trusty Codewright long after its commercial demise because I have it wired up just the way I like it. However, other viable alternatives that I know of in terms of horsepower are Multi Edit and Visual Slick Edit. I mention this because a guy I know who's just getting into some html / javascript coding (and doesn't use Visual Studio of any stripe) is using Notepad++. I was talking to him about the importance of having good tools. After visiting their home page I'm simply not sure if Notepad++ is just a bit more powerful than Notepad or it's a true programmer's editor in its own right and an equal to all the other ones (both mentioned and not mentioned). Anyone here have enough experience with it to offer comparisons?

              Christopher Duncan
              www.PracticalUSA.com
              Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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              Adriaan Davel
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              If it can do Intellisense it is a good editor :) I don't even ponder writing code in editors without Intellisense, for just editing text files I have found NP++ 100%

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              • C Christopher Duncan

                I've been hauling around my trusty Codewright long after its commercial demise because I have it wired up just the way I like it. However, other viable alternatives that I know of in terms of horsepower are Multi Edit and Visual Slick Edit. I mention this because a guy I know who's just getting into some html / javascript coding (and doesn't use Visual Studio of any stripe) is using Notepad++. I was talking to him about the importance of having good tools. After visiting their home page I'm simply not sure if Notepad++ is just a bit more powerful than Notepad or it's a true programmer's editor in its own right and an equal to all the other ones (both mentioned and not mentioned). Anyone here have enough experience with it to offer comparisons?

                Christopher Duncan
                www.PracticalUSA.com
                Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                Copywriting Services

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                Jwalant Natvarlal Soneji
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                I have used UltraEdit, Notepad++ and PSPad; and personally felt Notepad++ and PSPad good, cause they are free and open for plug-ins. Definitly the robustness of UltraEdit is comendable.

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                • C Christopher Duncan

                  I've been hauling around my trusty Codewright long after its commercial demise because I have it wired up just the way I like it. However, other viable alternatives that I know of in terms of horsepower are Multi Edit and Visual Slick Edit. I mention this because a guy I know who's just getting into some html / javascript coding (and doesn't use Visual Studio of any stripe) is using Notepad++. I was talking to him about the importance of having good tools. After visiting their home page I'm simply not sure if Notepad++ is just a bit more powerful than Notepad or it's a true programmer's editor in its own right and an equal to all the other ones (both mentioned and not mentioned). Anyone here have enough experience with it to offer comparisons?

                  Christopher Duncan
                  www.PracticalUSA.com
                  Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                  Copywriting Services

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                  da808z
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                  TextPAD rocks! If you're going to do ASP.NET or ASP however, Visual Studio 2008 Express is free and does the tips while typing thing. I don't know any free/shareware stuff that does tips while typing for PHP etc. My workplace has DreamWeaver which can do it for html/css while typing, but it costs $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

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                  • C Christopher Duncan

                    I've been hauling around my trusty Codewright long after its commercial demise because I have it wired up just the way I like it. However, other viable alternatives that I know of in terms of horsepower are Multi Edit and Visual Slick Edit. I mention this because a guy I know who's just getting into some html / javascript coding (and doesn't use Visual Studio of any stripe) is using Notepad++. I was talking to him about the importance of having good tools. After visiting their home page I'm simply not sure if Notepad++ is just a bit more powerful than Notepad or it's a true programmer's editor in its own right and an equal to all the other ones (both mentioned and not mentioned). Anyone here have enough experience with it to offer comparisons?

                    Christopher Duncan
                    www.PracticalUSA.com
                    Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                    Copywriting Services

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                    Flynn Arrowstarr Regular Schmoe
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                    I generally use PFE[^] for all-purpose file editing and reading. Of course, PFE hasn't been updated since 1999, but it works great even in Windows 7 64-bit. The main feature I like is it remembers where you left off in a file. Great for my game walkthrough files and general text editing (no syntax highlighting or Intellisense). For scripting (JavaScript/VBScript, PHP, etc.) I use SourceEdit[^]. No project management features or Intellisense, but lots of syntax highlighters are available. Both are free and work for everything I need. For anything heavy-duty, I use Visual Studio Express. :-\ Flynn

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                    • C Christopher Duncan

                      I've been hauling around my trusty Codewright long after its commercial demise because I have it wired up just the way I like it. However, other viable alternatives that I know of in terms of horsepower are Multi Edit and Visual Slick Edit. I mention this because a guy I know who's just getting into some html / javascript coding (and doesn't use Visual Studio of any stripe) is using Notepad++. I was talking to him about the importance of having good tools. After visiting their home page I'm simply not sure if Notepad++ is just a bit more powerful than Notepad or it's a true programmer's editor in its own right and an equal to all the other ones (both mentioned and not mentioned). Anyone here have enough experience with it to offer comparisons?

                      Christopher Duncan
                      www.PracticalUSA.com
                      Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                      Copywriting Services

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                      Mike Winiberg
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                      I use SLickedit (in Brief mode, natch 8) ). I'm - very slowly - trying to fix the netbeans IDE so that it can be configured for Brief mode, and then I will probably go over to that entirely for Java/PHP/C++ on non-windows platforms, but stick with Slickedit, as Visual Studio's editor makes punched cards look efficient (and yes, I have used punched cards, and paper tape...)

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                      • C Christopher Duncan

                        I've been hauling around my trusty Codewright long after its commercial demise because I have it wired up just the way I like it. However, other viable alternatives that I know of in terms of horsepower are Multi Edit and Visual Slick Edit. I mention this because a guy I know who's just getting into some html / javascript coding (and doesn't use Visual Studio of any stripe) is using Notepad++. I was talking to him about the importance of having good tools. After visiting their home page I'm simply not sure if Notepad++ is just a bit more powerful than Notepad or it's a true programmer's editor in its own right and an equal to all the other ones (both mentioned and not mentioned). Anyone here have enough experience with it to offer comparisons?

                        Christopher Duncan
                        www.PracticalUSA.com
                        Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                        Copywriting Services

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                        User 2966909
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                        I use ViM. It's simple, it's fast, it's scriptable, it's flexible, it's powerful, it's geek, it's cool, it's everywhere and it's charityware. The only problem is you need to learn a bit. But anything aside is just a toy.

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                        • C Christopher Duncan

                          I've been hauling around my trusty Codewright long after its commercial demise because I have it wired up just the way I like it. However, other viable alternatives that I know of in terms of horsepower are Multi Edit and Visual Slick Edit. I mention this because a guy I know who's just getting into some html / javascript coding (and doesn't use Visual Studio of any stripe) is using Notepad++. I was talking to him about the importance of having good tools. After visiting their home page I'm simply not sure if Notepad++ is just a bit more powerful than Notepad or it's a true programmer's editor in its own right and an equal to all the other ones (both mentioned and not mentioned). Anyone here have enough experience with it to offer comparisons?

                          Christopher Duncan
                          www.PracticalUSA.com
                          Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                          Copywriting Services

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                          Sami P
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                          Try Sublime Text, you won't regret it. The way it handles multiple selections and the ease of creating plugins (through a simple python API) makes it the best tool in my setup, by far.

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                          • L Lost User

                            Notepad2 is the best replacement ever for windows notepad. But, like you, it does not compare with NP++ But, I think we cant compare them, the target of use is very different, I like notepad2 to read logs, write text files, make some fast modification to source files, etc, but np++ comes better for scripting languages and files with a lot of lines of code. The plugin interface is very simple, I made a plugin for our source control system very easily, and there are a lot of usefulls plugins on the web, one that comes to my mind now is FunctionList, not very stable, but very very usefull, NppNetNote was another plugin that I found funny and usefull too. I've got both of them on my computer, and I am always using both

                            Saludos!! ____Juan

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                            Hardik Varma
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                            I've tried using both simultaneously in the past, and NP++ surpasses NP2 in every aspect for any task that I've thrown at the two of them (including reading plaintext files).

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                            • C Christopher Duncan

                              I've been hauling around my trusty Codewright long after its commercial demise because I have it wired up just the way I like it. However, other viable alternatives that I know of in terms of horsepower are Multi Edit and Visual Slick Edit. I mention this because a guy I know who's just getting into some html / javascript coding (and doesn't use Visual Studio of any stripe) is using Notepad++. I was talking to him about the importance of having good tools. After visiting their home page I'm simply not sure if Notepad++ is just a bit more powerful than Notepad or it's a true programmer's editor in its own right and an equal to all the other ones (both mentioned and not mentioned). Anyone here have enough experience with it to offer comparisons?

                              Christopher Duncan
                              www.PracticalUSA.com
                              Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                              Copywriting Services

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                              mrt_doulaty
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                              I'm using it as an editor for typesetting TeX and LaTeX documents. It is better than any other editor for TeX, including commercial ones, like WinEdit.

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                              • C Christopher Duncan

                                I've been hauling around my trusty Codewright long after its commercial demise because I have it wired up just the way I like it. However, other viable alternatives that I know of in terms of horsepower are Multi Edit and Visual Slick Edit. I mention this because a guy I know who's just getting into some html / javascript coding (and doesn't use Visual Studio of any stripe) is using Notepad++. I was talking to him about the importance of having good tools. After visiting their home page I'm simply not sure if Notepad++ is just a bit more powerful than Notepad or it's a true programmer's editor in its own right and an equal to all the other ones (both mentioned and not mentioned). Anyone here have enough experience with it to offer comparisons?

                                Christopher Duncan
                                www.PracticalUSA.com
                                Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                                Copywriting Services

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                                Charles Keepax
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                                Personally, I have always favoured Notepad++ and Ultraedit; they are both great editors. Lately I have been getting into Vim and finding it quite awesome. The learning curve is a nightmare, but its shaping up to be quite powerful. Still haven't decided if I would make it my go to editor yet though.

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                                • C Christopher Duncan

                                  I've been hauling around my trusty Codewright long after its commercial demise because I have it wired up just the way I like it. However, other viable alternatives that I know of in terms of horsepower are Multi Edit and Visual Slick Edit. I mention this because a guy I know who's just getting into some html / javascript coding (and doesn't use Visual Studio of any stripe) is using Notepad++. I was talking to him about the importance of having good tools. After visiting their home page I'm simply not sure if Notepad++ is just a bit more powerful than Notepad or it's a true programmer's editor in its own right and an equal to all the other ones (both mentioned and not mentioned). Anyone here have enough experience with it to offer comparisons?

                                  Christopher Duncan
                                  www.PracticalUSA.com
                                  Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                                  Copywriting Services

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                                  Nagy Vilmos
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                                  I use notepad++ day in, day out. You'll need to get it configured to suit you, but it is not a hard chore. Once you have it set up it is a very good code editor, WITH NO INTELISENSE! Woo hoo!


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                                  • C Christopher Duncan

                                    I've been hauling around my trusty Codewright long after its commercial demise because I have it wired up just the way I like it. However, other viable alternatives that I know of in terms of horsepower are Multi Edit and Visual Slick Edit. I mention this because a guy I know who's just getting into some html / javascript coding (and doesn't use Visual Studio of any stripe) is using Notepad++. I was talking to him about the importance of having good tools. After visiting their home page I'm simply not sure if Notepad++ is just a bit more powerful than Notepad or it's a true programmer's editor in its own right and an equal to all the other ones (both mentioned and not mentioned). Anyone here have enough experience with it to offer comparisons?

                                    Christopher Duncan
                                    www.PracticalUSA.com
                                    Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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                                    MannatWork
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                                    I've been using Multi-Edit since before Windows - I'm actually still using a pre Win95 16-bit version :-\ and except for Visual Studio I have managed to stay pretty much ignorant of other editors. Having said that, I think it's the bee's knees, but of course, this old version is really showing its age. Even at that, the worst thing I can say about it is that an upgrade to the current version would cost $200 (essentially the new purchase price). The other thing is that it's strictly a Windows program. I've wondered about Jedit, which looks like it might have a lot in common with Multi-Edit, including a built-in macro language, but is available cross-platform. I could be tempted into using a program that works the same under both Windows and Mac OSX. Plus, it's even open-source and free. I just haven't had the motivation and time to dig into it. One big red flag for me with Jedit is is that it's written in Java, and most Java apps I've used exhibit some behaviors which are very jarring for a long-time Windows user (who hates having to reach for the mouse when editing text). Does anyone have any informed opinions on Jedit or any other similar cross-platform programmer's editors?

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                                    • K KoosFourie

                                      I Agree, UltraEdit is by far the best editor available. It is the best piece of software I have ever spend some money on.

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                                      Another vote for UltraEdit. Wonderful multi-programming-language tool. Great for simple text file viewing/editing on up to projects, development, custom highlighting, etc. They constantly add features yet responsiveness rarely diminishes. I paid for the "lifetime upgrade" years ago and have never regretted it nor looked back. -David

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                                      • C Christopher Duncan

                                        I've been hauling around my trusty Codewright long after its commercial demise because I have it wired up just the way I like it. However, other viable alternatives that I know of in terms of horsepower are Multi Edit and Visual Slick Edit. I mention this because a guy I know who's just getting into some html / javascript coding (and doesn't use Visual Studio of any stripe) is using Notepad++. I was talking to him about the importance of having good tools. After visiting their home page I'm simply not sure if Notepad++ is just a bit more powerful than Notepad or it's a true programmer's editor in its own right and an equal to all the other ones (both mentioned and not mentioned). Anyone here have enough experience with it to offer comparisons?

                                        Christopher Duncan
                                        www.PracticalUSA.com
                                        Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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                                        John Perryn
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                                        TEXTPAD has the lot... http://www.textpad.com/

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