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Are recruitment agencies to full of them selves?

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  • M Manique

    I just had to turn down a software developer job offer with a large American Company (but based in the uk), I won't say who they are but they make normally printers. I originally said yes, but my current employer gave me an offer I could not afford to refuse. The reply from the agency tried to pour on the guilt, "they are very disapointed" and "they had been very patient waiting for my paper work" were some of the things said. What tripe. They made we wait months after the interview and they have made masses of people redundant in the past. I just think the agency miss the commision. And how can the whole of a large corp be disappointed? - are they the Borg? A flexible work force has to work both ways, not just in favour of employers. Anyway I going to watch Pompey Vs. Tottenham on Sunday (FA Cup Semi Final), so that will take my mind of it.

    Manique

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    Jim Crafton
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    Well they're certainly full of something...

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    • M Manique

      Maybe, but my loyality is to my family, and if have have a better quality of life by taking the counter offer than so be it. Any way, the way a lot of the lay-offs in the recession can hardly be said to have been done in a profesional manner - most where knee-jerk reactions.

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      Bassam Saoud
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      Manique wrote:

      Maybe, but my loyality is to my family

      Your current employer gave you a raise under pressure. You told them you are leaving, they wanted you to stay so they toped the offer. Depending on the quaility of your employer, that may back fire at you when the pressure is gone. They may ask you train an associate or hire a new developer and when the pressure is gone, give you the pink slip. It is for your interst to never ever accept an exit offer.

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        Manique wrote:

        Maybe, but my loyality is to my family

        Your current employer gave you a raise under pressure. You told them you are leaving, they wanted you to stay so they toped the offer. Depending on the quaility of your employer, that may back fire at you when the pressure is gone. They may ask you train an associate or hire a new developer and when the pressure is gone, give you the pink slip. It is for your interst to never ever accept an exit offer.

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        Spot on in my opinion.

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        • R ragnaroknrol

          Ames. And believe it or not, the cost of living in Chicago is roughly twice that of DesMoines. Combine it with my former (and hopefully soon higher) income and we were doing okay.

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          Having gone on weekend trips to Chicago I'm fully aware of the cost to live there. I have friends who live there and when their one bedroom condo costs twice what I paid for my three bedroom house I laugh at them. Plus I wouldn't be surprised if the schools were a touch better here but then again I'm biased :-D Unlike some I feel there's plenty to do in the Des Moines area if you know where to look and if there isn't we can always go up to Ames.

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          • M Manique

            I just had to turn down a software developer job offer with a large American Company (but based in the uk), I won't say who they are but they make normally printers. I originally said yes, but my current employer gave me an offer I could not afford to refuse. The reply from the agency tried to pour on the guilt, "they are very disapointed" and "they had been very patient waiting for my paper work" were some of the things said. What tripe. They made we wait months after the interview and they have made masses of people redundant in the past. I just think the agency miss the commision. And how can the whole of a large corp be disappointed? - are they the Borg? A flexible work force has to work both ways, not just in favour of employers. Anyway I going to watch Pompey Vs. Tottenham on Sunday (FA Cup Semi Final), so that will take my mind of it.

            Manique

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            Nemanja Trifunovic
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            Manique wrote:

            I originally said yes, but my current employer gave me an offer I could not afford to refuse.

            Don't know about your particular case, but I consider that a bad idea in general. If you are leaving, leave and don't look back.

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              Having gone on weekend trips to Chicago I'm fully aware of the cost to live there. I have friends who live there and when their one bedroom condo costs twice what I paid for my three bedroom house I laugh at them. Plus I wouldn't be surprised if the schools were a touch better here but then again I'm biased :-D Unlike some I feel there's plenty to do in the Des Moines area if you know where to look and if there isn't we can always go up to Ames.

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              There is nothing in Ames. It's a black hole. :P

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              • M Manique

                I just had to turn down a software developer job offer with a large American Company (but based in the uk), I won't say who they are but they make normally printers. I originally said yes, but my current employer gave me an offer I could not afford to refuse. The reply from the agency tried to pour on the guilt, "they are very disapointed" and "they had been very patient waiting for my paper work" were some of the things said. What tripe. They made we wait months after the interview and they have made masses of people redundant in the past. I just think the agency miss the commision. And how can the whole of a large corp be disappointed? - are they the Borg? A flexible work force has to work both ways, not just in favour of employers. Anyway I going to watch Pompey Vs. Tottenham on Sunday (FA Cup Semi Final), so that will take my mind of it.

                Manique

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                Manique wrote:

                Anyway I going to watch Pompey Vs. Tottenham on Sunday (FA Cup Semi Final), so that will take my mind of it.

                As an arsenal fan with family in Southampton this is one of those games where you wish that both sides could somehow lose

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                • M Manique

                  I am in a very different situation to most. It is a small company and as part of the deal, I get a sizable stake in the company I work for. You do not get that in most places.

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                  Again, if you are that valuable to them why did it take a threat to leave to get such a deal?


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                  • R ragnaroknrol

                    There is nothing in Ames. It's a black hole. :P

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                    Oh come now you have ISU women's basketball and pretty soon you'll have football. It's a college town, parties everywhere! (If I were a younger unattached man anyhow) :-D

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                    • D Dr Walt Fair PE

                      I think the professional thing to do would have been to talk to your management before looking for a job! If you couldn't do that, then what would the point of staying be? Look at it from the corporate point of view: 1) Your company now knows you can be bought easily. 2) The agency did spend time on you, whether you appreciate that or not. 3) If the company you were going to work with now knows you'll go back on your word and can't be trusted. Sounds like everyone loses to me. But hopefully the corporate memories will be short enough not to hurt you in the long run. Me? I have this game I play to see how many head hunters I can get to take me to lunch before I tell them I'm not interested in finding a job. I never do it under false pretenses, but so far I've had a couple dozen lunches over the years.

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                      Bassam Saoud
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                      Great points

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