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  • C Chris Losinger

    anybody here know COBOL ? what does this do?

       01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE                           PIC X(2816).
    
       01  REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.          
          05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES             
                   INDEXED BY K01-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
          05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES           
                   INDEXED BY K02-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
    

    i thought i understood what redefine and occurs meant, but i can't figure out what this declaration does. (funny answers are welcome!)

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    Jim Crafton
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    That's a program fragment? It looks like the results a program run as opposed to actual syntax. Bizarre. Glad I never had to deal with COBOL. Makes FORTRAN look absolutely svelte in comparison!

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      You may want to call AARP[^], I am pretty sure 90% of cobol programmers are members. :)

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      Chris Losinger
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      :laugh:

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      • C Chris Losinger

        anybody here know COBOL ? what does this do?

           01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE                           PIC X(2816).
        
           01  REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.          
              05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES             
                       INDEXED BY K01-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
              05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES           
                       INDEXED BY K02-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
        

        i thought i understood what redefine and occurs meant, but i can't figure out what this declaration does. (funny answers are welcome!)

        image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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        Andy Brummer
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        I'm guessing that is a buffer for a transfer protocol or a binary file format. I had to deal with such things ages ago when I had to interface with a tandem mainframe. (1369+37)*2 = 2812 so I think it is a bunch of 2 byte integers with 4 bytes left over.

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        • C Chris Losinger

          anybody here know COBOL ? what does this do?

             01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE                           PIC X(2816).
          
             01  REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.          
                05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES             
                         INDEXED BY K01-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES           
                         INDEXED BY K02-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
          

          i thought i understood what redefine and occurs meant, but i can't figure out what this declaration does. (funny answers are welcome!)

          image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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          PIEBALDconsult
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          Chris Losinger wrote:

          MEMORY-AREA-ONE

          Nah, I forgot. :-D

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            That's a program fragment? It looks like the results a program run as opposed to actual syntax. Bizarre. Glad I never had to deal with COBOL. Makes FORTRAN look absolutely svelte in comparison!

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            Chris Losinger
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            yeah, it's amazingly verbose. i have to translate a bunch into C/C++ and i'm learning as i go. but this bit makes no sense to me.

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            • A Andy Brummer

              I'm guessing that is a buffer for a transfer protocol or a binary file format. I had to deal with such things ages ago when I had to interface with a tandem mainframe. (1369+37)*2 = 2812 so I think it is a bunch of 2 byte integers with 4 bytes left over.

              I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon

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              Chris Losinger
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              Andy Brummer wrote:

              a bunch of 2 byte integers with 4 bytes left over

              hmm... yeah, i suppose that could be it. the 'leftover bytes' feels stupid and wrong, but maybe i should just get over that... i'll give it a try!

              image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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              • C Chris Losinger

                anybody here know COBOL ? what does this do?

                   01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE                           PIC X(2816).
                
                   01  REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.          
                      05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES             
                               INDEXED BY K01-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                      05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES           
                               INDEXED BY K02-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                

                i thought i understood what redefine and occurs meant, but i can't figure out what this declaration does. (funny answers are welcome!)

                image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                Ian Shlasko
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                Chris Losinger wrote:

                anybody here know COBOL ?

                I'd learn it, but... well... Some things just aren't meant to be done without large amounts of illegal drugs, and I'm not into that.

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                • C Chris Losinger

                  anybody here know COBOL ? what does this do?

                     01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE                           PIC X(2816).
                  
                     01  REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.          
                        05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES             
                                 INDEXED BY K01-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                        05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES           
                                 INDEXED BY K02-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                  

                  i thought i understood what redefine and occurs meant, but i can't figure out what this declaration does. (funny answers are welcome!)

                  image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                  Joe Woodbury
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                  My eyes keep glazing over while trying to read this. I tried sending it through Babel Fish, but it didn't do any good. I'll just guess that it means:

                  int main()
                  {
                  puts("Hello World");
                  }

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                  • C Chris Losinger

                    yeah, it's amazingly verbose. i have to translate a bunch into C/C++ and i'm learning as i go. but this bit makes no sense to me.

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                    Pete OHanlon
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                    Chris Losinger wrote:

                    yeah, it's amazingly verbose.

                    Invented by a woman, don't you know? I'm just saying, that's all.

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                    • C Chris Losinger

                      anybody here know COBOL ? what does this do?

                         01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE                           PIC X(2816).
                      
                         01  REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.          
                            05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES             
                                     INDEXED BY K01-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                            05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES           
                                     INDEXED BY K02-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                      

                      i thought i understood what redefine and occurs meant, but i can't figure out what this declaration does. (funny answers are welcome!)

                      image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                      Pete OHanlon
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                      As far as I can tell, it means that the chances of you using COBOL to stop the nuclear countdown in 24 is going to be slim. Jack Bauer: "Dammit Chloe. I need aerial surveilance now." Chloe: "I'm trying Jack. I'm still only halfway through the declaration section."

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                      • C Chris Losinger

                        anybody here know COBOL ? what does this do?

                           01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE                           PIC X(2816).
                        
                           01  REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.          
                              05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES             
                                       INDEXED BY K01-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                              05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES           
                                       INDEXED BY K02-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                        

                        i thought i understood what redefine and occurs meant, but i can't figure out what this declaration does. (funny answers are welcome!)

                        image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                        Jeremy Falcon
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                        Might be worthwhile running it through a COBOL to C translator. Then maybe you can make sense of the C code.

                        Jeremy Falcon

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                        • C Chris Losinger

                          anybody here know COBOL ? what does this do?

                             01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE                           PIC X(2816).
                          
                             01  REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.          
                                05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES             
                                         INDEXED BY K01-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                                05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES           
                                         INDEXED BY K02-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                          

                          i thought i understood what redefine and occurs meant, but i can't figure out what this declaration does. (funny answers are welcome!)

                          image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                          Douglas Troy
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                          This is nothing more than a string (alphanumeric) 2816 characters

                          Chris Losinger wrote:

                          01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE PIC X(2816).

                          that second section

                          Chris Losinger wrote:

                          01 REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE. 05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES INDEXED BY K01-1-X PIC 9(04) COMP-5. 05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES INDEXED BY K02-1-X PIC 9(04) COMP-5.

                          Pic 9(04) COMP-5 is a 4 byte numeric stored in machine independent format Essentially, those two lines redefine the space originally defined by MEMORY-AREA-ONE into two blocks of unsigned 16-bit integers. I cannot recall what the INDEXED allows you to do anymore ... Not sure any of that helps you ... [edit] You might also considering hitting up the COBOL User Groups[^] for help with this, and/or other COBOL related issues you might have. Just a thought.


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                          • C Chris Losinger

                            anybody here know COBOL ? what does this do?

                               01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE                           PIC X(2816).
                            
                               01  REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.          
                                  05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES             
                                           INDEXED BY K01-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                                  05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES           
                                           INDEXED BY K02-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                            

                            i thought i understood what redefine and occurs meant, but i can't figure out what this declaration does. (funny answers are welcome!)

                            image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                            Luc Pattyn
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                            Hi Chris, you are aware there are a couple of .NET COBOL compilers around? you might be lucky and have a look at the IL your source generates; and reflector might be willing to show you equivalent C# or VB.NET code. And maybe you don't need to translate it after all, just run it... :)

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                            • C Chris Losinger

                              anybody here know COBOL ? what does this do?

                                 01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE                           PIC X(2816).
                              
                                 01  REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.          
                                    05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES             
                                             INDEXED BY K01-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                                    05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES           
                                             INDEXED BY K02-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                              

                              i thought i understood what redefine and occurs meant, but i can't figure out what this declaration does. (funny answers are welcome!)

                              image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                              CPallini
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                              No cookie for you: COBOL is the only computer language invented by the Etrurians. :)

                              If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
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                              • L Luc Pattyn

                                Hi Chris, you are aware there are a couple of .NET COBOL compilers around? you might be lucky and have a look at the IL your source generates; and reflector might be willing to show you equivalent C# or VB.NET code. And maybe you don't need to translate it after all, just run it... :)

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                                Getting an article published on CodeProject should be easier and faster for Bronze and Silver authors.


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                                CPallini
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                                Luc Pattyn wrote:

                                you are aware there are a couple of .NET COBOL compilers around?

                                Their authors should be flamed, immediately. :rolleyes:

                                If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                                This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
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                                • C Chris Losinger

                                  anybody here know COBOL ? what does this do?

                                     01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE                           PIC X(2816).
                                  
                                     01  REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.          
                                        05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES             
                                                 INDEXED BY K01-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                                        05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES           
                                                 INDEXED BY K02-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                                  

                                  i thought i understood what redefine and occurs meant, but i can't figure out what this declaration does. (funny answers are welcome!)

                                  image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                                  Steve Mayfield
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                                  Isn't that part of the start up code for Cylons...oh wait, that's "Lords of Kobol" :laugh:

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                                  • C Chris Losinger

                                    anybody here know COBOL ? what does this do?

                                       01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE                           PIC X(2816).
                                    
                                       01  REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.          
                                          05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES             
                                                   INDEXED BY K01-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                                          05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES           
                                                   INDEXED BY K02-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                                    

                                    i thought i understood what redefine and occurs meant, but i can't figure out what this declaration does. (funny answers are welcome!)

                                    image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                                    martin_hughes
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                                     01 SORRY-CHRIS                                          PIC YOUR-NAME(LANCELOT).
                                     
                                     01 I-DON'T-KNOW.
                                       05 IDK OCCURS 100 TIMES
                                              INDEXED BY I-REALLY-DON'T-KNOW                 PIC A-COLOUR(BLUE).
                                       05 IDK-2 OCCURS 1520 TIMES
                                              INDEXED BY WHAT-IS-THE-CAPITAL-OF-ASSYRIA      I-DON'T-KNOW-THAT(NONE).  
                                    

                                    Output is apparently "Arrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!"

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                                    • C Chris Losinger

                                      Andy Brummer wrote:

                                      a bunch of 2 byte integers with 4 bytes left over

                                      hmm... yeah, i suppose that could be it. the 'leftover bytes' feels stupid and wrong, but maybe i should just get over that... i'll give it a try!

                                      image processing toolkits | batch image processing

                                      modified on Friday, April 9, 2010 4:38 PM

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                                      Steve Mayfield
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                                      4 bytes left over Maybe the 4 extra bytes are for the array index variables (K01-1-X & K02-1-X)

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                                      • C Chris Losinger

                                        anybody here know COBOL ? what does this do?

                                           01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE                           PIC X(2816).
                                        
                                           01  REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.          
                                              05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES             
                                                       INDEXED BY K01-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                                              05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES           
                                                       INDEXED BY K02-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                                        

                                        i thought i understood what redefine and occurs meant, but i can't figure out what this declaration does. (funny answers are welcome!)

                                        image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                                        Steve Mayfield
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                                        01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE PIC X(2816).
                                        01 REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.
                                        05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES
                                        INDEXED BY K01-1-X PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                                        05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES
                                        INDEXED BY K02-1-X PIC 9(04) COMP-5.

                                        maybe becomes :confused:

                                        union {
                                        {
                                        PIC MEMORY-AREA-ONE X[2816];
                                        struct {
                                        PIC K01-1-X;
                                        PIC K01-1[37];
                                        PIC K02-1-X;
                                        PIC K02-1[1369];
                                        } COMP-5
                                        };

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                                        • C Chris Losinger

                                          Andy Brummer wrote:

                                          a bunch of 2 byte integers with 4 bytes left over

                                          hmm... yeah, i suppose that could be it. the 'leftover bytes' feels stupid and wrong, but maybe i should just get over that... i'll give it a try!

                                          image processing toolkits | batch image processing

                                          modified on Friday, April 9, 2010 4:38 PM

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                                          JimmyRopes
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                                          Chris Losinger wrote:

                                          'leftover bytes' feels stupid

                                          COBOL programmers were never known to be sticklers for programming best practices. COBOL, like VB, allows non-programmers to think they can program. I have many years of experience in technical support (we programmed in assembler on IBM mainframes) supporting COBOL shops, and I have the scars to prove it.

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