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  • C Chris Losinger

    anybody here know COBOL ? what does this do?

       01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE                           PIC X(2816).
    
       01  REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.          
          05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES             
                   INDEXED BY K01-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
          05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES           
                   INDEXED BY K02-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
    

    i thought i understood what redefine and occurs meant, but i can't figure out what this declaration does. (funny answers are welcome!)

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    Jeremy Falcon
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    Might be worthwhile running it through a COBOL to C translator. Then maybe you can make sense of the C code.

    Jeremy Falcon

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    • C Chris Losinger

      anybody here know COBOL ? what does this do?

         01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE                           PIC X(2816).
      
         01  REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.          
            05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES             
                     INDEXED BY K01-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
            05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES           
                     INDEXED BY K02-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
      

      i thought i understood what redefine and occurs meant, but i can't figure out what this declaration does. (funny answers are welcome!)

      image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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      Douglas Troy
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      This is nothing more than a string (alphanumeric) 2816 characters

      Chris Losinger wrote:

      01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE PIC X(2816).

      that second section

      Chris Losinger wrote:

      01 REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE. 05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES INDEXED BY K01-1-X PIC 9(04) COMP-5. 05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES INDEXED BY K02-1-X PIC 9(04) COMP-5.

      Pic 9(04) COMP-5 is a 4 byte numeric stored in machine independent format Essentially, those two lines redefine the space originally defined by MEMORY-AREA-ONE into two blocks of unsigned 16-bit integers. I cannot recall what the INDEXED allows you to do anymore ... Not sure any of that helps you ... [edit] You might also considering hitting up the COBOL User Groups[^] for help with this, and/or other COBOL related issues you might have. Just a thought.


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      • C Chris Losinger

        anybody here know COBOL ? what does this do?

           01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE                           PIC X(2816).
        
           01  REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.          
              05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES             
                       INDEXED BY K01-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
              05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES           
                       INDEXED BY K02-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
        

        i thought i understood what redefine and occurs meant, but i can't figure out what this declaration does. (funny answers are welcome!)

        image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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        Luc Pattyn
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        Hi Chris, you are aware there are a couple of .NET COBOL compilers around? you might be lucky and have a look at the IL your source generates; and reflector might be willing to show you equivalent C# or VB.NET code. And maybe you don't need to translate it after all, just run it... :)

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        • C Chris Losinger

          anybody here know COBOL ? what does this do?

             01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE                           PIC X(2816).
          
             01  REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.          
                05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES             
                         INDEXED BY K01-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES           
                         INDEXED BY K02-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
          

          i thought i understood what redefine and occurs meant, but i can't figure out what this declaration does. (funny answers are welcome!)

          image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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          CPallini
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          No cookie for you: COBOL is the only computer language invented by the Etrurians. :)

          If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
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          • L Luc Pattyn

            Hi Chris, you are aware there are a couple of .NET COBOL compilers around? you might be lucky and have a look at the IL your source generates; and reflector might be willing to show you equivalent C# or VB.NET code. And maybe you don't need to translate it after all, just run it... :)

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            Getting an article published on CodeProject should be easier and faster for Bronze and Silver authors.


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            Luc Pattyn wrote:

            you are aware there are a couple of .NET COBOL compilers around?

            Their authors should be flamed, immediately. :rolleyes:

            If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
            This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
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            • C Chris Losinger

              anybody here know COBOL ? what does this do?

                 01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE                           PIC X(2816).
              
                 01  REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.          
                    05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES             
                             INDEXED BY K01-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                    05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES           
                             INDEXED BY K02-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
              

              i thought i understood what redefine and occurs meant, but i can't figure out what this declaration does. (funny answers are welcome!)

              image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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              Steve Mayfield
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              Isn't that part of the start up code for Cylons...oh wait, that's "Lords of Kobol" :laugh:

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              modified on Friday, April 9, 2010 5:55 PM

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              • C Chris Losinger

                anybody here know COBOL ? what does this do?

                   01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE                           PIC X(2816).
                
                   01  REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.          
                      05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES             
                               INDEXED BY K01-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                      05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES           
                               INDEXED BY K02-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                

                i thought i understood what redefine and occurs meant, but i can't figure out what this declaration does. (funny answers are welcome!)

                image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                 01 SORRY-CHRIS                                          PIC YOUR-NAME(LANCELOT).
                 
                 01 I-DON'T-KNOW.
                   05 IDK OCCURS 100 TIMES
                          INDEXED BY I-REALLY-DON'T-KNOW                 PIC A-COLOUR(BLUE).
                   05 IDK-2 OCCURS 1520 TIMES
                          INDEXED BY WHAT-IS-THE-CAPITAL-OF-ASSYRIA      I-DON'T-KNOW-THAT(NONE).  
                

                Output is apparently "Arrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!"

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                • C Chris Losinger

                  Andy Brummer wrote:

                  a bunch of 2 byte integers with 4 bytes left over

                  hmm... yeah, i suppose that could be it. the 'leftover bytes' feels stupid and wrong, but maybe i should just get over that... i'll give it a try!

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                  modified on Friday, April 9, 2010 4:38 PM

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                  4 bytes left over Maybe the 4 extra bytes are for the array index variables (K01-1-X & K02-1-X)

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                  • C Chris Losinger

                    anybody here know COBOL ? what does this do?

                       01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE                           PIC X(2816).
                    
                       01  REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.          
                          05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES             
                                   INDEXED BY K01-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                          05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES           
                                   INDEXED BY K02-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                    

                    i thought i understood what redefine and occurs meant, but i can't figure out what this declaration does. (funny answers are welcome!)

                    image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                    Steve Mayfield
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                    01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE PIC X(2816).
                    01 REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.
                    05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES
                    INDEXED BY K01-1-X PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                    05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES
                    INDEXED BY K02-1-X PIC 9(04) COMP-5.

                    maybe becomes :confused:

                    union {
                    {
                    PIC MEMORY-AREA-ONE X[2816];
                    struct {
                    PIC K01-1-X;
                    PIC K01-1[37];
                    PIC K02-1-X;
                    PIC K02-1[1369];
                    } COMP-5
                    };

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                    • C Chris Losinger

                      Andy Brummer wrote:

                      a bunch of 2 byte integers with 4 bytes left over

                      hmm... yeah, i suppose that could be it. the 'leftover bytes' feels stupid and wrong, but maybe i should just get over that... i'll give it a try!

                      image processing toolkits | batch image processing

                      modified on Friday, April 9, 2010 4:38 PM

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                      Chris Losinger wrote:

                      'leftover bytes' feels stupid

                      COBOL programmers were never known to be sticklers for programming best practices. COBOL, like VB, allows non-programmers to think they can program. I have many years of experience in technical support (we programmed in assembler on IBM mainframes) supporting COBOL shops, and I have the scars to prove it.

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                      • D Douglas Troy

                        This is nothing more than a string (alphanumeric) 2816 characters

                        Chris Losinger wrote:

                        01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE PIC X(2816).

                        that second section

                        Chris Losinger wrote:

                        01 REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE. 05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES INDEXED BY K01-1-X PIC 9(04) COMP-5. 05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES INDEXED BY K02-1-X PIC 9(04) COMP-5.

                        Pic 9(04) COMP-5 is a 4 byte numeric stored in machine independent format Essentially, those two lines redefine the space originally defined by MEMORY-AREA-ONE into two blocks of unsigned 16-bit integers. I cannot recall what the INDEXED allows you to do anymore ... Not sure any of that helps you ... [edit] You might also considering hitting up the COBOL User Groups[^] for help with this, and/or other COBOL related issues you might have. Just a thought.


                        :..::. Douglas H. Troy ::..
                        Bad Astronomy |VCF|wxWidgets|WTL

                        modified on Friday, April 9, 2010 5:51 PM

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                        Douglas Troy wrote:

                        I cannot recall what the INDEXED allows you to do anymore ..

                        i think that defines an iterator/pointer that's initialized to the start of the subgroup.

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                        • C Chris Losinger

                          anybody here know COBOL ? what does this do?

                             01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE                           PIC X(2816).
                          
                             01  REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.          
                                05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES             
                                         INDEXED BY K01-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                                05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES           
                                         INDEXED BY K02-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                          

                          i thought i understood what redefine and occurs meant, but i can't figure out what this declaration does. (funny answers are welcome!)

                          image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                          Sean Cundiff
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                          Chris Losinger wrote:

                          01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE PIC X(2816).

                          Allocate a block of memory 2816 bytes in size and fill with 'X'. Name the block of memory 'MEMORY-AREA-ONE'.

                          Chris Losinger wrote:

                          01 REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.
                          05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES
                          INDEXED BY K01-1-X PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                          05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES
                          INDEXED BY K02-1-X PIC 9(04) COMP-5.

                          Reallocate the array for a different purpose. K01-1 is an array that contains 37 elements. The index to the array is K01-1-X. Each element is a 4-byte numeric. 'PIC 9(04)' Each element is stored as a 2's complement big-endian number in machine-dependant format. 'COMP-5' When I say big-endian I mean that when the number is displayed it will be displayed as 4 digits from left to right with most significant to least significant order. Whether it's big-endian in memory depends on the implementation. K02-1 is a 1369 element array with similar properties. K01-1-X and K02-1-X are the variables used to index the arrays. Each one belongs to it's respective array and can't be used for the other one. p-code example: for K01-1-X in {1 .. 37} do something with K01-1[K01-1-X]

                          -Sean ---- Fire Nuts

                          modified on Friday, April 9, 2010 6:58 PM

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                          • D Douglas Troy

                            This is nothing more than a string (alphanumeric) 2816 characters

                            Chris Losinger wrote:

                            01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE PIC X(2816).

                            that second section

                            Chris Losinger wrote:

                            01 REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE. 05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES INDEXED BY K01-1-X PIC 9(04) COMP-5. 05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES INDEXED BY K02-1-X PIC 9(04) COMP-5.

                            Pic 9(04) COMP-5 is a 4 byte numeric stored in machine independent format Essentially, those two lines redefine the space originally defined by MEMORY-AREA-ONE into two blocks of unsigned 16-bit integers. I cannot recall what the INDEXED allows you to do anymore ... Not sure any of that helps you ... [edit] You might also considering hitting up the COBOL User Groups[^] for help with this, and/or other COBOL related issues you might have. Just a thought.


                            :..::. Douglas H. Troy ::..
                            Bad Astronomy |VCF|wxWidgets|WTL

                            modified on Friday, April 9, 2010 5:51 PM

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                            Douglas Troy wrote:

                            Pic 9(04) COMP-5 is a 4 byte numeric stored in machine independent format

                            Machine-dependent format if I'm not mistaken. COMP-4 is machine independent.

                            -Sean ---- Fire Nuts

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                              Chris Losinger wrote:

                              01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE PIC X(2816).

                              Allocate a block of memory 2816 bytes in size and fill with 'X'. Name the block of memory 'MEMORY-AREA-ONE'.

                              Chris Losinger wrote:

                              01 REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.
                              05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES
                              INDEXED BY K01-1-X PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                              05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES
                              INDEXED BY K02-1-X PIC 9(04) COMP-5.

                              Reallocate the array for a different purpose. K01-1 is an array that contains 37 elements. The index to the array is K01-1-X. Each element is a 4-byte numeric. 'PIC 9(04)' Each element is stored as a 2's complement big-endian number in machine-dependant format. 'COMP-5' When I say big-endian I mean that when the number is displayed it will be displayed as 4 digits from left to right with most significant to least significant order. Whether it's big-endian in memory depends on the implementation. K02-1 is a 1369 element array with similar properties. K01-1-X and K02-1-X are the variables used to index the arrays. Each one belongs to it's respective array and can't be used for the other one. p-code example: for K01-1-X in {1 .. 37} do something with K01-1[K01-1-X]

                              -Sean ---- Fire Nuts

                              modified on Friday, April 9, 2010 6:58 PM

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                              how can they be 4 byte integers ? that's twice the size of the MEMORY-AREA-ONE's 2816 bytes. (37 + 1369) * 4 = 5624 i'm thinking the 4 is the number of places allowed for the value. 9(4) is a 4 digit integer (0-9999) ? you can fit that in a two byte integer, which would fit in the 2816 bytes. make sense ?

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                              • C Chris Losinger

                                how can they be 4 byte integers ? that's twice the size of the MEMORY-AREA-ONE's 2816 bytes. (37 + 1369) * 4 = 5624 i'm thinking the 4 is the number of places allowed for the value. 9(4) is a 4 digit integer (0-9999) ? you can fit that in a two byte integer, which would fit in the 2816 bytes. make sense ?

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                                yeah I updated my post after I realized I put the wrong info in it. 4 byte 'numeric'. the numeric is stored in memory as a 2's complement number, big-endian and machine-dependent format. So 37 * 2 + 2 for the first array, and 1369 * 2 + 2 for the second array. ==> 76 + 2740 = 2816 bytes.

                                -Sean ---- Fire Nuts

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                                • C Chris Losinger

                                  anybody here know COBOL ? what does this do?

                                     01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE                           PIC X(2816).
                                  
                                     01  REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.          
                                        05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES             
                                                 INDEXED BY K01-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                                        05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES           
                                                 INDEXED BY K02-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                                  

                                  i thought i understood what redefine and occurs meant, but i can't figure out what this declaration does. (funny answers are welcome!)

                                  image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                                  Dan Mos
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                                  It throws an exception!! Either a System_TerrorException or a System_LiquidNitro one.

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                                    It throws an exception!! Either a System_TerrorException or a System_LiquidNitro one.

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                                    AspDotNetDev
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                                    Or a Dumber_Than_Baboon_Exception.

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                                      Or a Dumber_Than_Baboon_Exception.

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                                      Dan Mos
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                                      My bad. I totally forgat about it. Forgime me pls!!! URGENT!!!

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                                      • C Chris Losinger

                                        anybody here know COBOL ? what does this do?

                                           01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE                           PIC X(2816).
                                        
                                           01  REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.          
                                              05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES             
                                                       INDEXED BY K01-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                                              05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES           
                                                       INDEXED BY K02-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                                        

                                        i thought i understood what redefine and occurs meant, but i can't figure out what this declaration does. (funny answers are welcome!)

                                        image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                                        I knew cobol in another long ago and far away life.

                                        01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE PIC X(2816).

                                        01 REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.
                                        05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES
                                        INDEXED BY K01-1-X PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                                        05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES
                                        INDEXED BY K02-1-X PIC 9(04) COMP-5.

                                        If I remember right, that corresponds to :

                                        struct numeric_arrays
                                        {
                                        short k01_1_x;
                                        short k01_1[37];
                                        short k02_1_x;
                                        short k02_1[1369];
                                        };

                                        union mem_area
                                        {
                                        char memory_area_one[2816];
                                        numeric_arrays k01_and_k02;
                                        };

                                        As others have said, the PIC 9(04) is 4 numeric digits and the comp-5 packs it to 2 bytes. I believe the indices map to mem preceding the array parts in mem, but I'm not 100% sure.

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                                           01 SORRY-CHRIS                                          PIC YOUR-NAME(LANCELOT).
                                           
                                           01 I-DON'T-KNOW.
                                             05 IDK OCCURS 100 TIMES
                                                    INDEXED BY I-REALLY-DON'T-KNOW                 PIC A-COLOUR(BLUE).
                                             05 IDK-2 OCCURS 1520 TIMES
                                                    INDEXED BY WHAT-IS-THE-CAPITAL-OF-ASSYRIA      I-DON'T-KNOW-THAT(NONE).  
                                          

                                          Output is apparently "Arrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!"

                                          Books written by CP members

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                                          Hahaha. Excellent dude. Best Holy Grail reference I've seen yet.

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