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  • X Xiangyang Liu

    You may want to call AARP[^], I am pretty sure 90% of cobol programmers are members. :)

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    Chris Losinger
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    :laugh:

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      anybody here know COBOL ? what does this do?

         01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE                           PIC X(2816).
      
         01  REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.          
            05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES             
                     INDEXED BY K01-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
            05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES           
                     INDEXED BY K02-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
      

      i thought i understood what redefine and occurs meant, but i can't figure out what this declaration does. (funny answers are welcome!)

      image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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      Andy Brummer
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      I'm guessing that is a buffer for a transfer protocol or a binary file format. I had to deal with such things ages ago when I had to interface with a tandem mainframe. (1369+37)*2 = 2812 so I think it is a bunch of 2 byte integers with 4 bytes left over.

      I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon

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        anybody here know COBOL ? what does this do?

           01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE                           PIC X(2816).
        
           01  REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.          
              05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES             
                       INDEXED BY K01-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
              05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES           
                       INDEXED BY K02-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
        

        i thought i understood what redefine and occurs meant, but i can't figure out what this declaration does. (funny answers are welcome!)

        image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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        PIEBALDconsult
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        Chris Losinger wrote:

        MEMORY-AREA-ONE

        Nah, I forgot. :-D

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        • J Jim Crafton

          That's a program fragment? It looks like the results a program run as opposed to actual syntax. Bizarre. Glad I never had to deal with COBOL. Makes FORTRAN look absolutely svelte in comparison!

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          Chris Losinger
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          yeah, it's amazingly verbose. i have to translate a bunch into C/C++ and i'm learning as i go. but this bit makes no sense to me.

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            anybody here know COBOL ? what does this do?

               01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE                           PIC X(2816).
            
               01  REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.          
                  05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES             
                           INDEXED BY K01-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                  05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES           
                           INDEXED BY K02-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
            

            i thought i understood what redefine and occurs meant, but i can't figure out what this declaration does. (funny answers are welcome!)

            image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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            Ian Shlasko
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            Chris Losinger wrote:

            anybody here know COBOL ?

            I'd learn it, but... well... Some things just aren't meant to be done without large amounts of illegal drugs, and I'm not into that.

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            • A Andy Brummer

              I'm guessing that is a buffer for a transfer protocol or a binary file format. I had to deal with such things ages ago when I had to interface with a tandem mainframe. (1369+37)*2 = 2812 so I think it is a bunch of 2 byte integers with 4 bytes left over.

              I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon

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              Andy Brummer wrote:

              a bunch of 2 byte integers with 4 bytes left over

              hmm... yeah, i suppose that could be it. the 'leftover bytes' feels stupid and wrong, but maybe i should just get over that... i'll give it a try!

              image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                anybody here know COBOL ? what does this do?

                   01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE                           PIC X(2816).
                
                   01  REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.          
                      05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES             
                               INDEXED BY K01-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                      05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES           
                               INDEXED BY K02-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                

                i thought i understood what redefine and occurs meant, but i can't figure out what this declaration does. (funny answers are welcome!)

                image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                Joe Woodbury
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                My eyes keep glazing over while trying to read this. I tried sending it through Babel Fish, but it didn't do any good. I'll just guess that it means:

                int main()
                {
                puts("Hello World");
                }

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                • C Chris Losinger

                  yeah, it's amazingly verbose. i have to translate a bunch into C/C++ and i'm learning as i go. but this bit makes no sense to me.

                  image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                  Pete OHanlon
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                  Chris Losinger wrote:

                  yeah, it's amazingly verbose.

                  Invented by a woman, don't you know? I'm just saying, that's all.

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                  • C Chris Losinger

                    anybody here know COBOL ? what does this do?

                       01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE                           PIC X(2816).
                    
                       01  REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.          
                          05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES             
                                   INDEXED BY K01-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                          05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES           
                                   INDEXED BY K02-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                    

                    i thought i understood what redefine and occurs meant, but i can't figure out what this declaration does. (funny answers are welcome!)

                    image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                    Pete OHanlon
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                    As far as I can tell, it means that the chances of you using COBOL to stop the nuclear countdown in 24 is going to be slim. Jack Bauer: "Dammit Chloe. I need aerial surveilance now." Chloe: "I'm trying Jack. I'm still only halfway through the declaration section."

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                    • C Chris Losinger

                      anybody here know COBOL ? what does this do?

                         01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE                           PIC X(2816).
                      
                         01  REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.          
                            05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES             
                                     INDEXED BY K01-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                            05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES           
                                     INDEXED BY K02-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                      

                      i thought i understood what redefine and occurs meant, but i can't figure out what this declaration does. (funny answers are welcome!)

                      image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                      Jeremy Falcon
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                      Might be worthwhile running it through a COBOL to C translator. Then maybe you can make sense of the C code.

                      Jeremy Falcon

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                      • C Chris Losinger

                        anybody here know COBOL ? what does this do?

                           01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE                           PIC X(2816).
                        
                           01  REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.          
                              05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES             
                                       INDEXED BY K01-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                              05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES           
                                       INDEXED BY K02-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                        

                        i thought i understood what redefine and occurs meant, but i can't figure out what this declaration does. (funny answers are welcome!)

                        image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                        Douglas Troy
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                        This is nothing more than a string (alphanumeric) 2816 characters

                        Chris Losinger wrote:

                        01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE PIC X(2816).

                        that second section

                        Chris Losinger wrote:

                        01 REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE. 05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES INDEXED BY K01-1-X PIC 9(04) COMP-5. 05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES INDEXED BY K02-1-X PIC 9(04) COMP-5.

                        Pic 9(04) COMP-5 is a 4 byte numeric stored in machine independent format Essentially, those two lines redefine the space originally defined by MEMORY-AREA-ONE into two blocks of unsigned 16-bit integers. I cannot recall what the INDEXED allows you to do anymore ... Not sure any of that helps you ... [edit] You might also considering hitting up the COBOL User Groups[^] for help with this, and/or other COBOL related issues you might have. Just a thought.


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                        modified on Friday, April 9, 2010 5:51 PM

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                          anybody here know COBOL ? what does this do?

                             01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE                           PIC X(2816).
                          
                             01  REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.          
                                05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES             
                                         INDEXED BY K01-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                                05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES           
                                         INDEXED BY K02-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                          

                          i thought i understood what redefine and occurs meant, but i can't figure out what this declaration does. (funny answers are welcome!)

                          image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                          Luc Pattyn
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                          Hi Chris, you are aware there are a couple of .NET COBOL compilers around? you might be lucky and have a look at the IL your source generates; and reflector might be willing to show you equivalent C# or VB.NET code. And maybe you don't need to translate it after all, just run it... :)

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                            anybody here know COBOL ? what does this do?

                               01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE                           PIC X(2816).
                            
                               01  REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.          
                                  05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES             
                                           INDEXED BY K01-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                                  05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES           
                                           INDEXED BY K02-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                            

                            i thought i understood what redefine and occurs meant, but i can't figure out what this declaration does. (funny answers are welcome!)

                            image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                            CPallini
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                            No cookie for you: COBOL is the only computer language invented by the Etrurians. :)

                            If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
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                              Hi Chris, you are aware there are a couple of .NET COBOL compilers around? you might be lucky and have a look at the IL your source generates; and reflector might be willing to show you equivalent C# or VB.NET code. And maybe you don't need to translate it after all, just run it... :)

                              Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]


                              Getting an article published on CodeProject should be easier and faster for Bronze and Silver authors.


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                              CPallini
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                              Luc Pattyn wrote:

                              you are aware there are a couple of .NET COBOL compilers around?

                              Their authors should be flamed, immediately. :rolleyes:

                              If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                              This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
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                              • C Chris Losinger

                                anybody here know COBOL ? what does this do?

                                   01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE                           PIC X(2816).
                                
                                   01  REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.          
                                      05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES             
                                               INDEXED BY K01-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                                      05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES           
                                               INDEXED BY K02-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                                

                                i thought i understood what redefine and occurs meant, but i can't figure out what this declaration does. (funny answers are welcome!)

                                image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                                Steve Mayfield
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                                Isn't that part of the start up code for Cylons...oh wait, that's "Lords of Kobol" :laugh:

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                                modified on Friday, April 9, 2010 5:55 PM

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                                  anybody here know COBOL ? what does this do?

                                     01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE                           PIC X(2816).
                                  
                                     01  REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.          
                                        05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES             
                                                 INDEXED BY K01-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                                        05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES           
                                                 INDEXED BY K02-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                                  

                                  i thought i understood what redefine and occurs meant, but i can't figure out what this declaration does. (funny answers are welcome!)

                                  image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                                   01 SORRY-CHRIS                                          PIC YOUR-NAME(LANCELOT).
                                   
                                   01 I-DON'T-KNOW.
                                     05 IDK OCCURS 100 TIMES
                                            INDEXED BY I-REALLY-DON'T-KNOW                 PIC A-COLOUR(BLUE).
                                     05 IDK-2 OCCURS 1520 TIMES
                                            INDEXED BY WHAT-IS-THE-CAPITAL-OF-ASSYRIA      I-DON'T-KNOW-THAT(NONE).  
                                  

                                  Output is apparently "Arrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!"

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                                    Andy Brummer wrote:

                                    a bunch of 2 byte integers with 4 bytes left over

                                    hmm... yeah, i suppose that could be it. the 'leftover bytes' feels stupid and wrong, but maybe i should just get over that... i'll give it a try!

                                    image processing toolkits | batch image processing

                                    modified on Friday, April 9, 2010 4:38 PM

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                                    4 bytes left over Maybe the 4 extra bytes are for the array index variables (K01-1-X & K02-1-X)

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                                    • C Chris Losinger

                                      anybody here know COBOL ? what does this do?

                                         01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE                           PIC X(2816).
                                      
                                         01  REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.          
                                            05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES             
                                                     INDEXED BY K01-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                                            05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES           
                                                     INDEXED BY K02-1-X               PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                                      

                                      i thought i understood what redefine and occurs meant, but i can't figure out what this declaration does. (funny answers are welcome!)

                                      image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                                      01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE PIC X(2816).
                                      01 REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE.
                                      05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES
                                      INDEXED BY K01-1-X PIC 9(04) COMP-5.
                                      05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES
                                      INDEXED BY K02-1-X PIC 9(04) COMP-5.

                                      maybe becomes :confused:

                                      union {
                                      {
                                      PIC MEMORY-AREA-ONE X[2816];
                                      struct {
                                      PIC K01-1-X;
                                      PIC K01-1[37];
                                      PIC K02-1-X;
                                      PIC K02-1[1369];
                                      } COMP-5
                                      };

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                                      • C Chris Losinger

                                        Andy Brummer wrote:

                                        a bunch of 2 byte integers with 4 bytes left over

                                        hmm... yeah, i suppose that could be it. the 'leftover bytes' feels stupid and wrong, but maybe i should just get over that... i'll give it a try!

                                        image processing toolkits | batch image processing

                                        modified on Friday, April 9, 2010 4:38 PM

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                                        JimmyRopes
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                                        Chris Losinger wrote:

                                        'leftover bytes' feels stupid

                                        COBOL programmers were never known to be sticklers for programming best practices. COBOL, like VB, allows non-programmers to think they can program. I have many years of experience in technical support (we programmed in assembler on IBM mainframes) supporting COBOL shops, and I have the scars to prove it.

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                                          This is nothing more than a string (alphanumeric) 2816 characters

                                          Chris Losinger wrote:

                                          01 MEMORY-AREA-ONE PIC X(2816).

                                          that second section

                                          Chris Losinger wrote:

                                          01 REDEFINES MEMORY-AREA-ONE. 05 K01-1 OCCURS 37 TIMES INDEXED BY K01-1-X PIC 9(04) COMP-5. 05 K02-1 OCCURS 1369 TIMES INDEXED BY K02-1-X PIC 9(04) COMP-5.

                                          Pic 9(04) COMP-5 is a 4 byte numeric stored in machine independent format Essentially, those two lines redefine the space originally defined by MEMORY-AREA-ONE into two blocks of unsigned 16-bit integers. I cannot recall what the INDEXED allows you to do anymore ... Not sure any of that helps you ... [edit] You might also considering hitting up the COBOL User Groups[^] for help with this, and/or other COBOL related issues you might have. Just a thought.


                                          :..::. Douglas H. Troy ::..
                                          Bad Astronomy |VCF|wxWidgets|WTL

                                          modified on Friday, April 9, 2010 5:51 PM

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                                          Douglas Troy wrote:

                                          I cannot recall what the INDEXED allows you to do anymore ..

                                          i think that defines an iterator/pointer that's initialized to the start of the subgroup.

                                          image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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