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    Michel Godfroid
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    When answering questions, I find myself always referring to other OP's as 'he' or 'him'. Now if I see the person's full name (and it's a Western Name), that may be all right. However, lots of OP's use aliases, and to be honest, I'm at odds to determine a person's sex from his/her name when it's an African or Asian name. On the other hand, I don't want to write he/she or her/him all the time, as it cramps my style, and wears out the keyboard. Would it be a good idea to add this information to the OP's profile, and maybe overlay the OP's icon with a little symbol that allows us to address people politely and correctly? (Chris, and think of the data mining possibilities: statistics on the battle of the sexes, who gets the most 5's, who writes the most crap articles? :-D )

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      When answering questions, I find myself always referring to other OP's as 'he' or 'him'. Now if I see the person's full name (and it's a Western Name), that may be all right. However, lots of OP's use aliases, and to be honest, I'm at odds to determine a person's sex from his/her name when it's an African or Asian name. On the other hand, I don't want to write he/she or her/him all the time, as it cramps my style, and wears out the keyboard. Would it be a good idea to add this information to the OP's profile, and maybe overlay the OP's icon with a little symbol that allows us to address people politely and correctly? (Chris, and think of the data mining possibilities: statistics on the battle of the sexes, who gets the most 5's, who writes the most crap articles? :-D )

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      AspDotNetDev
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      Meh, just pick "he" or "she" and live with it. If somebody asks about you, I'll just say "she was worried over nothing". :rolleyes: EDIT: I suppose you could be a female, but I'm going to assume you're a man and that I correctly incorrectly called you a woman. :)

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      • M Michel Godfroid

        When answering questions, I find myself always referring to other OP's as 'he' or 'him'. Now if I see the person's full name (and it's a Western Name), that may be all right. However, lots of OP's use aliases, and to be honest, I'm at odds to determine a person's sex from his/her name when it's an African or Asian name. On the other hand, I don't want to write he/she or her/him all the time, as it cramps my style, and wears out the keyboard. Would it be a good idea to add this information to the OP's profile, and maybe overlay the OP's icon with a little symbol that allows us to address people politely and correctly? (Chris, and think of the data mining possibilities: statistics on the battle of the sexes, who gets the most 5's, who writes the most crap articles? :-D )

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        Dalek Dave
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        Unless it is someone you know to be a girly, assume male. If they aint they will correct you, and most will be male anyway. The standard letter format in business is Sir.

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        • A AspDotNetDev

          Meh, just pick "he" or "she" and live with it. If somebody asks about you, I'll just say "she was worried over nothing". :rolleyes: EDIT: I suppose you could be a female, but I'm going to assume you're a man and that I correctly incorrectly called you a woman. :)

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          Michel Godfroid
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          aspdotnetdev wrote:

          I'm going to assume you're a man

          Was last time I looked, but I find myself sitting down on the toilet more and more often, due to my advanced age :-D

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          • M Michel Godfroid

            When answering questions, I find myself always referring to other OP's as 'he' or 'him'. Now if I see the person's full name (and it's a Western Name), that may be all right. However, lots of OP's use aliases, and to be honest, I'm at odds to determine a person's sex from his/her name when it's an African or Asian name. On the other hand, I don't want to write he/she or her/him all the time, as it cramps my style, and wears out the keyboard. Would it be a good idea to add this information to the OP's profile, and maybe overlay the OP's icon with a little symbol that allows us to address people politely and correctly? (Chris, and think of the data mining possibilities: statistics on the battle of the sexes, who gets the most 5's, who writes the most crap articles? :-D )

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            Vikram A Punathambekar
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            Michel Godfroid wrote:

            I'm at odds to determine a person's sex from his/her name when it's an African or Asian name.

            Google image search. Could get you in trouble if the poster shares her name with a pr*n star (or is one herself, although I doubt we'll find too many pr*n stars posting on CP :laugh: ).

            Cheers, Vikram. (Got my troika of CCCs!)

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            • M Michel Godfroid

              When answering questions, I find myself always referring to other OP's as 'he' or 'him'. Now if I see the person's full name (and it's a Western Name), that may be all right. However, lots of OP's use aliases, and to be honest, I'm at odds to determine a person's sex from his/her name when it's an African or Asian name. On the other hand, I don't want to write he/she or her/him all the time, as it cramps my style, and wears out the keyboard. Would it be a good idea to add this information to the OP's profile, and maybe overlay the OP's icon with a little symbol that allows us to address people politely and correctly? (Chris, and think of the data mining possibilities: statistics on the battle of the sexes, who gets the most 5's, who writes the most crap articles? :-D )

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              Mark_Wallace
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              If you don't know someone's gender, then "he" is the correct address, because it is (and always has been) gender neutral, as well as the masculine pronoun. PC alternatives sicken me. Language is for communication, not wheedling. I'm sure that the ladies amongst us are quite capable of letting you know you should use the feminine pronoun (if indeed they want a bunch of devs to know that they're girls).

              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                Michel Godfroid wrote:

                I'm at odds to determine a person's sex from his/her name when it's an African or Asian name.

                Google image search. Could get you in trouble if the poster shares her name with a pr*n star (or is one herself, although I doubt we'll find too many pr*n stars posting on CP :laugh: ).

                Cheers, Vikram. (Got my troika of CCCs!)

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                AspDotNetDev
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                You mean I've been wasting my time? :(( :mad: I'm going to expertsexchange.com!

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                • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                  Michel Godfroid wrote:

                  I'm at odds to determine a person's sex from his/her name when it's an African or Asian name.

                  Google image search. Could get you in trouble if the poster shares her name with a pr*n star (or is one herself, although I doubt we'll find too many pr*n stars posting on CP :laugh: ).

                  Cheers, Vikram. (Got my troika of CCCs!)

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                  Michel Godfroid
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                  Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                  Google image search.

                  To be honest, in some cases, it makes it even more difficult to determine the gender. Now THAT would be embarrassing :-)

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                    You mean I've been wasting my time? :(( :mad: I'm going to expertsexchange.com!

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                    Dalek Dave
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                    aspdotnetdev wrote:

                    I'm going to expertsexchange.com!

                    Too right, nothing worse than a amateur sexchange!

                    ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                      If you don't know someone's gender, then "he" is the correct address, because it is (and always has been) gender neutral, as well as the masculine pronoun. PC alternatives sicken me. Language is for communication, not wheedling. I'm sure that the ladies amongst us are quite capable of letting you know you should use the feminine pronoun (if indeed they want a bunch of devs to know that they're girls).

                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      Dalek Dave
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                      Girls? We got Girls? Real Girls? Real Girls with girly hair and skirts type girls? MMMMMMmmmmm!

                      ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                        aspdotnetdev wrote:

                        I'm going to expertsexchange.com!

                        Too right, nothing worse than a amateur sexchange!

                        ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                        AspDotNetDev
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                        If I get one of those, I figure that opens up a world of possibilities for me here at Code Project. :rolleyes:

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                        • M Michel Godfroid

                          When answering questions, I find myself always referring to other OP's as 'he' or 'him'. Now if I see the person's full name (and it's a Western Name), that may be all right. However, lots of OP's use aliases, and to be honest, I'm at odds to determine a person's sex from his/her name when it's an African or Asian name. On the other hand, I don't want to write he/she or her/him all the time, as it cramps my style, and wears out the keyboard. Would it be a good idea to add this information to the OP's profile, and maybe overlay the OP's icon with a little symbol that allows us to address people politely and correctly? (Chris, and think of the data mining possibilities: statistics on the battle of the sexes, who gets the most 5's, who writes the most crap articles? :-D )

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                          Super Lloyd
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                          How about addressing people as 'it'?!? ;P

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                            When answering questions, I find myself always referring to other OP's as 'he' or 'him'. Now if I see the person's full name (and it's a Western Name), that may be all right. However, lots of OP's use aliases, and to be honest, I'm at odds to determine a person's sex from his/her name when it's an African or Asian name. On the other hand, I don't want to write he/she or her/him all the time, as it cramps my style, and wears out the keyboard. Would it be a good idea to add this information to the OP's profile, and maybe overlay the OP's icon with a little symbol that allows us to address people politely and correctly? (Chris, and think of the data mining possibilities: statistics on the battle of the sexes, who gets the most 5's, who writes the most crap articles? :-D )

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                            Solving such 'sexism' problem is easy: let's remove all accounts of 'females' from CodeProject. :rolleyes:

                            If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
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                              Solving such 'sexism' problem is easy: let's remove all accounts of 'females' from CodeProject. :rolleyes:

                              If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                              This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
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                              Michel Godfroid
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                              CPallini wrote:

                              let's remove all accounts of 'females' from CodeProject

                              You'll have to find them before you shoot them... :laugh:

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                                CPallini wrote:

                                let's remove all accounts of 'females' from CodeProject

                                You'll have to find them before you shoot them... :laugh:

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                                CPallini
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                                When in doubt, shoot! :-D

                                If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                                This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
                                [My articles]

                                In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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                                • M Michel Godfroid

                                  When answering questions, I find myself always referring to other OP's as 'he' or 'him'. Now if I see the person's full name (and it's a Western Name), that may be all right. However, lots of OP's use aliases, and to be honest, I'm at odds to determine a person's sex from his/her name when it's an African or Asian name. On the other hand, I don't want to write he/she or her/him all the time, as it cramps my style, and wears out the keyboard. Would it be a good idea to add this information to the OP's profile, and maybe overlay the OP's icon with a little symbol that allows us to address people politely and correctly? (Chris, and think of the data mining possibilities: statistics on the battle of the sexes, who gets the most 5's, who writes the most crap articles? :-D )

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                                  Lost User
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                                  Unless you go to the bother of using gender neutral pronouns this would cause more trouble that it's worth. If someone is actually sexist it gets dealth with. Trust me. ;) Signed The Tigress :laugh:

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                                    When answering questions, I find myself always referring to other OP's as 'he' or 'him'. Now if I see the person's full name (and it's a Western Name), that may be all right. However, lots of OP's use aliases, and to be honest, I'm at odds to determine a person's sex from his/her name when it's an African or Asian name. On the other hand, I don't want to write he/she or her/him all the time, as it cramps my style, and wears out the keyboard. Would it be a good idea to add this information to the OP's profile, and maybe overlay the OP's icon with a little symbol that allows us to address people politely and correctly? (Chris, and think of the data mining possibilities: statistics on the battle of the sexes, who gets the most 5's, who writes the most crap articles? :-D )

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                                    Sexism, a term coined in the mid-20th century,[1] is the belief or attitude that one gender or sex is inferior to, less competent, or less valuable than the other. Calling an anonymous poster "him" on this forum is, basically, good old statistics. I don't say "him" because I think a girl can't program, I say "him" because it's right significantly more often. Feel free to downvote me for my next statement: If she feels discriminated by having to point out my mistake to receive the correct attribution, it's not my problem. Get help, or at least learn to ask for it. If there are 5 girls on this world who won't enter CompSci because they have been called "he" on a forum two times in a row, get lost. You ego is in the way, not your gender.

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                                      When answering questions, I find myself always referring to other OP's as 'he' or 'him'. Now if I see the person's full name (and it's a Western Name), that may be all right. However, lots of OP's use aliases, and to be honest, I'm at odds to determine a person's sex from his/her name when it's an African or Asian name. On the other hand, I don't want to write he/she or her/him all the time, as it cramps my style, and wears out the keyboard. Would it be a good idea to add this information to the OP's profile, and maybe overlay the OP's icon with a little symbol that allows us to address people politely and correctly? (Chris, and think of the data mining possibilities: statistics on the battle of the sexes, who gets the most 5's, who writes the most crap articles? :-D )

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                                      Amarnath S
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                                      Use (s)he. Regarding his/her, I'm still thinking.

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                                      • D Dalek Dave

                                        aspdotnetdev wrote:

                                        I'm going to expertsexchange.com!

                                        Too right, nothing worse than a amateur sexchange!

                                        ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                                        KenBonny
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                                        You mean the guy who wanted to be a Eunichs Developer? (Saw his sig and found it funny, can't remember who's sig that is though.)

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                                          Girls? We got Girls? Real Girls? Real Girls with girly hair and skirts type girls? MMMMMMmmmmm!

                                          ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                                          peterchen
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                                          Yes, with and guns and claws and compilers and all that other girly stuff. As you said, real girls.

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