Sexism in the forums
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Michel Godfroid wrote:
I'm at odds to determine a person's sex from his/her name when it's an African or Asian name.
Google image search. Could get you in trouble if the poster shares her name with a pr*n star (or is one herself, although I doubt we'll find too many pr*n stars posting on CP :laugh: ).
Cheers, Vikram. (Got my troika of CCCs!)
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
Google image search.
To be honest, in some cases, it makes it even more difficult to determine the gender. Now THAT would be embarrassing :-)
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You mean I've been wasting my time? :(( :mad: I'm going to expertsexchange.com!
aspdotnetdev wrote:
I'm going to expertsexchange.com!
Too right, nothing worse than a amateur sexchange!
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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aspdotnetdev wrote:
I'm going to expertsexchange.com!
Too right, nothing worse than a amateur sexchange!
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
If I get one of those, I figure that opens up a world of possibilities for me here at Code Project. :rolleyes:
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If you don't know someone's gender, then "he" is the correct address, because it is (and always has been) gender neutral, as well as the masculine pronoun. PC alternatives sicken me. Language is for communication, not wheedling. I'm sure that the ladies amongst us are quite capable of letting you know you should use the feminine pronoun (if indeed they want a bunch of devs to know that they're girls).
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Girls? We got Girls? Real Girls? Real Girls with girly hair and skirts type girls? MMMMMMmmmmm!
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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When answering questions, I find myself always referring to other OP's as 'he' or 'him'. Now if I see the person's full name (and it's a Western Name), that may be all right. However, lots of OP's use aliases, and to be honest, I'm at odds to determine a person's sex from his/her name when it's an African or Asian name. On the other hand, I don't want to write he/she or her/him all the time, as it cramps my style, and wears out the keyboard. Would it be a good idea to add this information to the OP's profile, and maybe overlay the OP's icon with a little symbol that allows us to address people politely and correctly? (Chris, and think of the data mining possibilities: statistics on the battle of the sexes, who gets the most 5's, who writes the most crap articles? :-D )
How about addressing people as 'it'?!? ;P
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When answering questions, I find myself always referring to other OP's as 'he' or 'him'. Now if I see the person's full name (and it's a Western Name), that may be all right. However, lots of OP's use aliases, and to be honest, I'm at odds to determine a person's sex from his/her name when it's an African or Asian name. On the other hand, I don't want to write he/she or her/him all the time, as it cramps my style, and wears out the keyboard. Would it be a good idea to add this information to the OP's profile, and maybe overlay the OP's icon with a little symbol that allows us to address people politely and correctly? (Chris, and think of the data mining possibilities: statistics on the battle of the sexes, who gets the most 5's, who writes the most crap articles? :-D )
Solving such 'sexism' problem is easy: let's remove all accounts of 'females' from CodeProject. :rolleyes:
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Solving such 'sexism' problem is easy: let's remove all accounts of 'females' from CodeProject. :rolleyes:
If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
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When answering questions, I find myself always referring to other OP's as 'he' or 'him'. Now if I see the person's full name (and it's a Western Name), that may be all right. However, lots of OP's use aliases, and to be honest, I'm at odds to determine a person's sex from his/her name when it's an African or Asian name. On the other hand, I don't want to write he/she or her/him all the time, as it cramps my style, and wears out the keyboard. Would it be a good idea to add this information to the OP's profile, and maybe overlay the OP's icon with a little symbol that allows us to address people politely and correctly? (Chris, and think of the data mining possibilities: statistics on the battle of the sexes, who gets the most 5's, who writes the most crap articles? :-D )
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CPallini wrote:
let's remove all accounts of 'females' from CodeProject
You'll have to find them before you shoot them... :laugh:
When in doubt, shoot! :-D
If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
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When answering questions, I find myself always referring to other OP's as 'he' or 'him'. Now if I see the person's full name (and it's a Western Name), that may be all right. However, lots of OP's use aliases, and to be honest, I'm at odds to determine a person's sex from his/her name when it's an African or Asian name. On the other hand, I don't want to write he/she or her/him all the time, as it cramps my style, and wears out the keyboard. Would it be a good idea to add this information to the OP's profile, and maybe overlay the OP's icon with a little symbol that allows us to address people politely and correctly? (Chris, and think of the data mining possibilities: statistics on the battle of the sexes, who gets the most 5's, who writes the most crap articles? :-D )
Sexism, a term coined in the mid-20th century,[1] is the belief or attitude that one gender or sex is inferior to, less competent, or less valuable than the other. Calling an anonymous poster "him" on this forum is, basically, good old statistics. I don't say "him" because I think a girl can't program, I say "him" because it's right significantly more often. Feel free to downvote me for my next statement: If she feels discriminated by having to point out my mistake to receive the correct attribution, it's not my problem. Get help, or at least learn to ask for it. If there are 5 girls on this world who won't enter CompSci because they have been called "he" on a forum two times in a row, get lost. You ego is in the way, not your gender.
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When answering questions, I find myself always referring to other OP's as 'he' or 'him'. Now if I see the person's full name (and it's a Western Name), that may be all right. However, lots of OP's use aliases, and to be honest, I'm at odds to determine a person's sex from his/her name when it's an African or Asian name. On the other hand, I don't want to write he/she or her/him all the time, as it cramps my style, and wears out the keyboard. Would it be a good idea to add this information to the OP's profile, and maybe overlay the OP's icon with a little symbol that allows us to address people politely and correctly? (Chris, and think of the data mining possibilities: statistics on the battle of the sexes, who gets the most 5's, who writes the most crap articles? :-D )
Use (s)he. Regarding his/her, I'm still thinking.
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aspdotnetdev wrote:
I'm going to expertsexchange.com!
Too right, nothing worse than a amateur sexchange!
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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Girls? We got Girls? Real Girls? Real Girls with girly hair and skirts type girls? MMMMMMmmmmm!
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
Yes, with and guns and claws and compilers and all that other girly stuff. As you said, real girls.
Agh! Reality! My Archnemesis![^]
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When answering questions, I find myself always referring to other OP's as 'he' or 'him'. Now if I see the person's full name (and it's a Western Name), that may be all right. However, lots of OP's use aliases, and to be honest, I'm at odds to determine a person's sex from his/her name when it's an African or Asian name. On the other hand, I don't want to write he/she or her/him all the time, as it cramps my style, and wears out the keyboard. Would it be a good idea to add this information to the OP's profile, and maybe overlay the OP's icon with a little symbol that allows us to address people politely and correctly? (Chris, and think of the data mining possibilities: statistics on the battle of the sexes, who gets the most 5's, who writes the most crap articles? :-D )
Put a disclaimer in your sig, something like: "Dear reader, since I do not know your gender and because I think it is irrelevant to our discussion. I will henceforth address everybody, male or female, with a male attribution to make my writing more enjoyable to read. I appologise for any inconvenience I may have caused you or your momma."
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When answering questions, I find myself always referring to other OP's as 'he' or 'him'. Now if I see the person's full name (and it's a Western Name), that may be all right. However, lots of OP's use aliases, and to be honest, I'm at odds to determine a person's sex from his/her name when it's an African or Asian name. On the other hand, I don't want to write he/she or her/him all the time, as it cramps my style, and wears out the keyboard. Would it be a good idea to add this information to the OP's profile, and maybe overlay the OP's icon with a little symbol that allows us to address people politely and correctly? (Chris, and think of the data mining possibilities: statistics on the battle of the sexes, who gets the most 5's, who writes the most crap articles? :-D )
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Girls? We got Girls? Real Girls? Real Girls with girly hair and skirts type girls? MMMMMMmmmmm!
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
Dalek Dave wrote:
Girls? We got Girls? Real Girls?
Only the one's that rightly believe that "Once you've had geek, you've reached your peak!!!"
Steve Jowett ------------------------- Real programmers don't comment their code. If it was hard to write, it should be hard to read.
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When answering questions, I find myself always referring to other OP's as 'he' or 'him'. Now if I see the person's full name (and it's a Western Name), that may be all right. However, lots of OP's use aliases, and to be honest, I'm at odds to determine a person's sex from his/her name when it's an African or Asian name. On the other hand, I don't want to write he/she or her/him all the time, as it cramps my style, and wears out the keyboard. Would it be a good idea to add this information to the OP's profile, and maybe overlay the OP's icon with a little symbol that allows us to address people politely and correctly? (Chris, and think of the data mining possibilities: statistics on the battle of the sexes, who gets the most 5's, who writes the most crap articles? :-D )
Michel Godfroid wrote:
I don't want to write he/she or her/him all the time, as it cramps my style, and wears out the keyboard.
Have you not realised that words 'He' and 'She' both contain H and E and that 'Him' and 'Her' are 3 characters in length. So I think you're mistaken about wearing out your keyboard. In fact refering to someone as 'He' and 'Him' would prolong the life of your keyboard. I love being a smart-arse :-D
Steve Jowett ------------------------- Real programmers don't comment their code. If it was hard to write, it should be hard to read.
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Michel Godfroid wrote:
to add this information to the OP's profile,
Holding this piece of information in a database is illegal in France.
Rage wrote:
Holding this piece of information in a database is illegal in France
I think it's illegal in most European Countries, if your database is held in the confines of the EU. (you have to register your database with the authorities) However you must also allow people to change the information you keep about them, so gender changers, welcome :-)
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aspdotnetdev wrote:
I'm going to assume you're a man
Was last time I looked, but I find myself sitting down on the toilet more and more often, due to my advanced age :-D
Live gets tough after 30 :)
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When answering questions, I find myself always referring to other OP's as 'he' or 'him'. Now if I see the person's full name (and it's a Western Name), that may be all right. However, lots of OP's use aliases, and to be honest, I'm at odds to determine a person's sex from his/her name when it's an African or Asian name. On the other hand, I don't want to write he/she or her/him all the time, as it cramps my style, and wears out the keyboard. Would it be a good idea to add this information to the OP's profile, and maybe overlay the OP's icon with a little symbol that allows us to address people politely and correctly? (Chris, and think of the data mining possibilities: statistics on the battle of the sexes, who gets the most 5's, who writes the most crap articles? :-D )
If a woman here wants it known that's she's not man, and her user ID doesn't actually suggest her gender (like "Trollslayer"), she'll say something when she gets tired of being referred to as he/him. Given that an overwhelming percentage of programmers are male, I would say that putting too much time into being politically correct is a huge waste of time.
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