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  • P Pete OHanlon

    Real men, the outdoors types, work in vi. I miss some of the things I used to be able to do in vi.

    "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

    As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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    Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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    Ah vi! That's going back a while!

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    • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

      إيه عال. ضيفنا لكن يا زلمه m dot i dot mustafa at gmail dot com

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      Bassam Abdul Baki
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      Steve?

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      • B Bassam Abdul Baki

        Steve?

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        Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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        Yeah? My full name on my Jordanian passport is "Steve-Mustafa Ismail Mustafa" and on my Canadian is "Steve Mustafa". Comes with the territory of being a half-breed :) بعدين الصلعة مبينة عربية :)

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        • D DaveX86

          ...you can develop for PHP in Visual Studio with VS.PHP[^] ...why use Java at all if you can get .Net goodness with Mono? :) ...never heard of Cython...Python derivative? ...Grasshopper[^] seems to let you develop for Java for Linux in Visual Studio

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          Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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          Well, I'm not too sure about VS.PHP and I don't know of a single commercial grade application that's been written in Mono; till then its still amateur stuff as far as work is concerned. Cython is THE standard Python dialect :) Grasshopper. We tried it a few years back and it wasn't so hot. Frankly, cross compiling like that is akin to a cross-dresser, crossing back to "normal" by wearing their clothes backwards and upside down. Cannot be comfortable. I'd rather code it directly. But thanks in every case :)

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          • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

            Yeah? My full name on my Jordanian passport is "Steve-Mustafa Ismail Mustafa" and on my Canadian is "Steve Mustafa". Comes with the territory of being a half-breed :) بعدين الصلعة مبينة عربية :)

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            Bassam Abdul Baki
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            Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

            بعدين الصلعة مبينة عربية

            That explains it.

            Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

            Comes with the territory of being a half-breed

            I take it your dad is Jordanian and your mom is?

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            • B Bassam Abdul Baki

              Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

              بعدين الصلعة مبينة عربية

              That explains it.

              Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

              Comes with the territory of being a half-breed

              I take it your dad is Jordanian and your mom is?

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              Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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              Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

              I take it your dad is Jordanian and your mom is?

              بابا فلسطيني مجنس أردني و من أهلو لاجئين بلبنان )صيدا ' بس مش عين الحلوة( و ماما كندية من أصل لبناني بس كندية أكتر فبتلائي كتير من أرايبيني "بيض" و أنجلو-ساكسون I'm surprised you didn't know... its been mentioned often enough here. I have a question. UBMC? University of "the Bridges of Madison County" ? I laughed when I read that :)

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              • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                I take it your dad is Jordanian and your mom is?

                بابا فلسطيني مجنس أردني و من أهلو لاجئين بلبنان )صيدا ' بس مش عين الحلوة( و ماما كندية من أصل لبناني بس كندية أكتر فبتلائي كتير من أرايبيني "بيض" و أنجلو-ساكسون I'm surprised you didn't know... its been mentioned often enough here. I have a question. UBMC? University of "the Bridges of Madison County" ? I laughed when I read that :)

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                Bassam Abdul Baki
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                I may have read it, but it's been a while since I came here regularly. UMBC stands for U Must Be Crazy, and I was. :)

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                • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                  Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                  Eclipse bites

                  If not for Java development yes, it might.

                  Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                  Aptana

                  Aptana was the only IDE for a long time where JavaScript Intellisense actually worked correctly. It can recognize Prototype, ExtJs and jQuery. I used Aptana on windows to some extent to write JavaScript code even though I had VS 2008.

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                  Alexander DiMauro
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                  Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                  Aptana was the only IDE for a long time where JavaScript Intellisense actually worked correctly. It can recognize Prototype, ExtJs and jQuery. I used Aptana on windows to some extent to write JavaScript code even though I had VS 2008.

                  I agree, I still use Aptana today for (X)HTML, CSS, and JavaScript. Once I get the UI laid out, I port it over to Visual Studio. Of course, the real power of Aptana does not come from Aptana itself, but the Zen Coding plug-in[^]. If you can find it for your IDE, not THAT is what I HIGHLY recommend...

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                  • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                    I'm a very big fan of VIM/GVIM and my .vimrc file has been quite heavily customized to suit my programming needs. However, there comes the time when you need a good IDE as much as the need for a lightweight [primarily] text editor.

                    • Eclipse bites (sorry Rama, I tried the latest and it still sucks) YMMV.
                    • Aptana is Eclipse in a banana skin (as opposed to a wolf in a sheep's skin...)
                    • Netbeans 6.8 is actually quite decent, though, and this is by feel only with no concrete data, feels sluggish at times.
                    • Geany is just a glorified text editor.
                    • gedit/gPHPedit is not bad, VIM is better though.
                    • I'm liking the beta of Jetbrains Webstorm[^]. Quite a nice IDE and so far my favorite on Linux (but its Java and platform independent but quite good actually)

                    If you can offer some more suggestions, I'd be very grateful.

                    If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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                    Squirrel Hacker
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                    Surprised that no one has mentioned Netbeans...

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                    • S Squirrel Hacker

                      Surprised that no one has mentioned Netbeans...

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                      CurtainDog
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                      It was mentioned in the original post... but yes, netbeans is quite good and has improved by leaps and bound in recent iterations. For Java development Eclipse is still king, but you need to set aside half a day to get it set up. I use Netbeans for PHP and Javascript and it's usable right out of the box. (I have only run these two under Windows though so YMMV)

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                      • C CurtainDog

                        It was mentioned in the original post... but yes, netbeans is quite good and has improved by leaps and bound in recent iterations. For Java development Eclipse is still king, but you need to set aside half a day to get it set up. I use Netbeans for PHP and Javascript and it's usable right out of the box. (I have only run these two under Windows though so YMMV)

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                        Squirrel Hacker
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                        Oops, gotta learn to do that reading thing... Netbeans does keep improving though, 6.9 has some really nice features that I don't think are part of Eclipse (granted I abandoned Eclipse a long time ago, so they may be part of it now). I have used it in both environments and it does seem a little slower in linux than in Windows, but for the features, and the fact that I don't have to go spelunking for useful plugins to make it work... I am willing to put up with a little bit of slowness once in a while (I find this is usually because it is doing its initial scan of a project).

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                        • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                          I'm a very big fan of VIM/GVIM and my .vimrc file has been quite heavily customized to suit my programming needs. However, there comes the time when you need a good IDE as much as the need for a lightweight [primarily] text editor.

                          • Eclipse bites (sorry Rama, I tried the latest and it still sucks) YMMV.
                          • Aptana is Eclipse in a banana skin (as opposed to a wolf in a sheep's skin...)
                          • Netbeans 6.8 is actually quite decent, though, and this is by feel only with no concrete data, feels sluggish at times.
                          • Geany is just a glorified text editor.
                          • gedit/gPHPedit is not bad, VIM is better though.
                          • I'm liking the beta of Jetbrains Webstorm[^]. Quite a nice IDE and so far my favorite on Linux (but its Java and platform independent but quite good actually)

                          If you can offer some more suggestions, I'd be very grateful.

                          If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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                          deostroll
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                          Don't do anything professionally with linux. At home I use Bluefish editor, and at times Screem too. Hate the latter tho.

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                          • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                            I'm a very big fan of VIM/GVIM and my .vimrc file has been quite heavily customized to suit my programming needs. However, there comes the time when you need a good IDE as much as the need for a lightweight [primarily] text editor.

                            • Eclipse bites (sorry Rama, I tried the latest and it still sucks) YMMV.
                            • Aptana is Eclipse in a banana skin (as opposed to a wolf in a sheep's skin...)
                            • Netbeans 6.8 is actually quite decent, though, and this is by feel only with no concrete data, feels sluggish at times.
                            • Geany is just a glorified text editor.
                            • gedit/gPHPedit is not bad, VIM is better though.
                            • I'm liking the beta of Jetbrains Webstorm[^]. Quite a nice IDE and so far my favorite on Linux (but its Java and platform independent but quite good actually)

                            If you can offer some more suggestions, I'd be very grateful.

                            If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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                            destynova
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                            I don't do much web development at all, so I just use (Aquamacs) Emacs with that thingy that lets you access files via SSH... tramp, I think it's called :) For bigger stuff, I would probably check out Netbeans too, since it's been surprisingly good as a Ruby IDE (coming from Eclipse for Java, which is fantastic but... monstrous in some ways). I believe you can also use Zen Coding[1][2] with Netbeans - it seems pretty astonishingly useful, if you haven't come across it yet! [1] http://code.google.com/p/zen-coding/ [2] http://vimeo.com/7405114

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                            • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                              I'm a very big fan of VIM/GVIM and my .vimrc file has been quite heavily customized to suit my programming needs. However, there comes the time when you need a good IDE as much as the need for a lightweight [primarily] text editor.

                              • Eclipse bites (sorry Rama, I tried the latest and it still sucks) YMMV.
                              • Aptana is Eclipse in a banana skin (as opposed to a wolf in a sheep's skin...)
                              • Netbeans 6.8 is actually quite decent, though, and this is by feel only with no concrete data, feels sluggish at times.
                              • Geany is just a glorified text editor.
                              • gedit/gPHPedit is not bad, VIM is better though.
                              • I'm liking the beta of Jetbrains Webstorm[^]. Quite a nice IDE and so far my favorite on Linux (but its Java and platform independent but quite good actually)

                              If you can offer some more suggestions, I'd be very grateful.

                              If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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                              dootzky
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                              dude you must try QUANTA, that's the best web IDE for Linux. I've been using them all, but Quanta beats them all, even if it's totally old (KDE 4.3.2) cheers

                              www.duneprog.com www.dootzky.com

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                              • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                                For fear of misunderstanding the question, I'm giving you two answers. 1. My work is a combination of Javascript, Java, C++, Cython and PHP. Javascript is the only one that I know of that can be developed on VS. 2. VS doesn't run on Linux unless under a VM or WINE

                                If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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                                grizzlyb
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                                AFAIK Visual Studio does support C/C++/Visual C+++/Visual C++.NET :)

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