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  • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

    Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

    primarily web design/development

    lol. yeah, and how many of those are there?? give me a break.

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    Rama Krishna Vavilala
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    Surprisingly, a lot. I could not believe it myself till we were looking for help to redesign our website.

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    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

      Surprisingly, a lot. I could not believe it myself till we were looking for help to redesign our website.

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      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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      Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

      Surprisingly, a lot

      that still doesn't prove anything. nor does it prove your statement that they're all using MACs.

      Fight Big Government:
      http://obamacareclassaction.com/
      http://obamacaretruth.org/

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      • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

        Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

        Surprisingly, a lot

        that still doesn't prove anything. nor does it prove your statement that they're all using MACs.

        Fight Big Government:
        http://obamacareclassaction.com/
        http://obamacaretruth.org/

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        Rama Krishna Vavilala
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        ahmed zahmed wrote:

        it prove your statement that they're all using MACs.

        I never said that they are all using MACs. Nor there is a way to know they are all using MACs. But whoever I have came in contact with were all using MACs. That's why I am not surprised with the survey results.

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          You've not tried Coda[^] have you? You'll see why the overwhelming majority of web developers prefer Mac. I'd pay for it if it were available on Linux or Windows.

          If the post was helpful, please vote, eh! Current activities: Book: Devils by Fyodor Dostoyevsky Project: Hospital Automation, final stage Learning: Image analysis, LINQ Now and forever, defiant to the end. What is Multiple Sclerosis[^]?

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          Rama Krishna Vavilala
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          +1 for Coda. It is really cool.

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          • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

            ahmed zahmed wrote:

            it prove your statement that they're all using MACs.

            I never said that they are all using MACs. Nor there is a way to know they are all using MACs. But whoever I have came in contact with were all using MACs. That's why I am not surprised with the survey results.

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            TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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            ok, no, you didn't say ALL, but you did say "Most of them use Mac over a PC." there's no way you could know that.

            Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

            But whoever I have came in contact with were all using MACs

            lol. I can believe that, but are you saying you've come in contact with "Most of them?"

            Fight Big Government:
            http://obamacareclassaction.com/
            http://obamacaretruth.org/

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            • R Rutvik Dave

              The result says OS of choice, Mac OS 51% vs Windows 41%... Looks like 'web designers' survey instead of 'web developers' :)

              Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

              1. jQuery is the king of JavaScript libraries.

              For me AJAX Control tool kit is enough until I learn JQuery...

              Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

              2. FireFox is preferred browser for development. I think it is mainly due to FireBug.

              We have IE as supported browser for all the products, so F12 in IE replaces Firebug...

              Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

              4. PHP still rules

              Is this a joke ? :-D

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              Jeremy Falcon
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              Rutvik Dave wrote:

              We have IE as supported browser for all the products, so F12 in IE replaces Firebug...

              :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Thanks for the laugh. I needed it.

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              • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                I came across this survey: http://www.webdirections.org/sotw10/[^] It is pretty interesting and it seems lot of hard work went into presenting the details. The results I am not surprised about: 1. jQuery is the king of JavaScript libraries. 2. FireFox is preferred browser for development. I think it is mainly due to FireBug. 3. Webkit is gaining grounds. 4. PHP still rules Other than that, it is anybody's guess on how seriously this survey should be taken. I wonder if Kent has not posted this in Insider. Unfortunately, I am not getting Insider emails even though I am subscribed to it.

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                Jeremy Falcon
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                Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                1. jQuery is the king of JavaScript libraries.

                No surprise there.

                Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                2. FireFox is preferred browser for development. I think it is mainly due to FireBug.

                That's the main reason I even use FireFox. FireBug has me way too spoiled to dev in anything else. IE's dev tools suck in comparison.

                Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                3. Webkit is gaining grounds.

                I'm actually glad to see that. As much as I like Mozilla, I think having the competition back is good for innovation.

                Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                4. PHP still rules

                And it will for a long time out too. I just hope the PHP guys will be able to keep up with MS now since they've taken a real interest in web languages.

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                • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                  ok, no, you didn't say ALL, but you did say "Most of them use Mac over a PC." there's no way you could know that.

                  Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                  But whoever I have came in contact with were all using MACs

                  lol. I can believe that, but are you saying you've come in contact with "Most of them?"

                  Fight Big Government:
                  http://obamacareclassaction.com/
                  http://obamacaretruth.org/

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                  Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                  Well at some time you have to extrapolate based on your experience. It may or may not true. But at least this survey and experience of some other people validates what I extrapolated.

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                    Rutvik Dave wrote:

                    For me AJAX Control tool kit is enough until I learn JQuery...

                    Not gonna happen by osmosis, you have to start using it. :)

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                    Rutvik Dave
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                    Yes, you are right.

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                    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                      Well at some time you have to extrapolate based on your experience. It may or may not true. But at least this survey and experience of some other people validates what I extrapolated.

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                      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                      Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                      extrapolate based on your experience

                      You have no accurate basis for extrapolation. Or you can word things more accurately. If you had said, "All of the ones I came in contact with" or "Most of the ones I came in contact with" blah blah blah. Then I would have had no argument.

                      Fight Big Government:
                      http://obamacareclassaction.com/
                      http://obamacaretruth.org/

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                      • R Rutvik Dave

                        Yes, you are right.

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                        Brady Kelly
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                        I spent one Saturday writing jQuery code to manage an order item table 100% clientside. I pretty much learnt enough jQuery to accomplish most common tasks that day.

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                        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                          Well at some time you have to extrapolate based on your experience. It may or may not true. But at least this survey and experience of some other people validates what I extrapolated.

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                          Johann Gerell
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                          It's trolling. Don't feed it. :suss:

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                          • B blackjack2150

                            Are you shitting me?! What a joke of a survey. :laugh: OS of choice: Mac OS X - 51% Windows (all versions) - 41 %

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                            Alexander DiMauro
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                            I agree. I've only worked at one company that even had Macs. Then again, it said they asked designers and developers, but didn't say how many of each...many designers do use Macs. But, programmers? No way! Mac has <10% of the market, there is NO WAY that >50% of web developers use them! They must have been very biased in who they asked. X|

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                            • B Brady Kelly

                              Rutvik Dave wrote:

                              For me AJAX Control tool kit is enough until I learn JQuery...

                              Not gonna happen by osmosis, you have to start using it. :)

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                              Justincc
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                              "I'm excited today to announce that Microsoft will be shipping jQuery with Visual Studio going forward." http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2008/09/28/jquery-and-microsoft.aspx[^]

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                                "I'm excited today to announce that Microsoft will be shipping jQuery with Visual Studio going forward." http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2008/09/28/jquery-and-microsoft.aspx[^]

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                                Brady Kelly
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                                That's very big of Microsoft, seeing how hard to was to get hold of jQuery before this arrangement. It is kind of cool that MS are effectively pushing jQuery.

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