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  • D Dalek Dave

    Closer than 20 feet, man beat gun!

    ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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    Jorgen Andersson
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    Which by coincidence happens to be the most common distance for a policeman to fire a gun.

    "When did ignorance become a point of view" - Dilbert

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    • P Pete OHanlon

      Unlike Americans, here in the UK, we don't measure the size of our penis by the size of our guns. We're secure enough in our manhood not to need to use firearms. Firearms don't make you more virile; it's a Phallusy.

      "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

      As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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      Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

      Unlike Americans, here in the UK, we don't measure the size of our penis by the size of our guns.

      Hey, take that back! In America, we measure our penises by the size of our SUV's!

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      • D devvvy

        just a random thought - I think on average Kung Fu don't work, at least for the avg 120 skinny. The body builder with 180lbs of muscle always (well almost) win I think Kung Fu is overrated (no offense and me no exopert), or am i mistaken?

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        Speaking from 25+ years of experience in KungFu, you are indeed very much mistaken


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        • J Jeremy Hutchinson

          I took Karate from a ~135lbs female about a decade back. We sparred a few times and I'm pretty sure she'd kick the crap out of my 220lbs. She could put a solid block on pretty much anything I threw at her, and the time we worked with kicking and punching the heavy bag, she was able to put quite a bit more power in to it than anyone there. So yes, it makes you a better fighter. Now ~135lb black belt vs a 220lb black belt, I'd put my money on the big guy.

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          I wouldn't put money on the either. One may be bigger but if the smaller one is skilled and knows how to use his size effectively, and just as important, use his opponents size against him, it would be an even bet.


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          • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

            Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

            Unlike Americans, here in the UK, we don't measure the size of our penis by the size of our guns.

            Hey, take that back! In America, we measure our penises by the size of our SUV's!

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            Ian Shlasko
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            SUV? Bah... My ride[^] would flatten your SUV :)

            Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
            Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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            • D devvvy

              just a random thought - I think on average Kung Fu don't work, at least for the avg 120 skinny. The body builder with 180lbs of muscle always (well almost) win I think Kung Fu is overrated (no offense and me no exopert), or am i mistaken?

              dev

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              Andy Brummer
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              Hitting is like any sports related skill. It's a complex motion that has to be learned like anything else. Avoiding getting hit is even harder. All things being equal being stronger gives you a big advantage though. However, there are at least 3 different kinds of strength: maximal, explosive, endurance. How hard you can punch depends on what kinds of strength you have throughout your body; Roughly 60% of the force comes from core and legs, 40% from your upper body. Your speed is governed by practice, and learning to keep a clear head makes a huge difference. So, when it comes down to it, when you fight you never know what is going to happen. Anyone can get a lucky shot in and when one of those connects you are toast. The more you learn about fighting the less you want to do it for real, especially when you throw guns and knives into the mix.

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              • P Pete OHanlon

                drothe wrote:

                so I can't say anything as to the particular style.

                This is actually a common misconception. Kung fu is not the martial art - like many, I experimented with different martial arts (I started off with Wushu; particularly Chang Chuan) and Wushu is the martial aspect. Kung fu very roughly translates to "time and energy" and can relate to any discipline that takes time and effort to learn, e.g. piano. There are many styles of Wushu.

                "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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                Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                Kung fu is not the martial art

                sounds like the whole "evolution is xyz ... no! It's abc" argument when we all know that when scientists, media, what-not are talking "evolution" they mean a specific thing. Likewise, your statement about Kung Fu, while it may be "true", really serves to confuse the subject. When it's clear that when most western people speak of Kung Fu they're talking of that thing that Bruce Lee[^] was famous for doing.

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                  SUV? Bah... My ride[^] would flatten your SUV :)

                  Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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                  I lived where the subway became the elevated train on one of the busiest lines in Chicago. You heard a train come up every 1-2 minutes. This area was protected by huge concrete walls and a 20+ ft tall barb wire fence. Why was this? A car had driven into the subway one day. Poof. Like literally...

                  If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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                  • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                    Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                    Kung fu is not the martial art

                    sounds like the whole "evolution is xyz ... no! It's abc" argument when we all know that when scientists, media, what-not are talking "evolution" they mean a specific thing. Likewise, your statement about Kung Fu, while it may be "true", really serves to confuse the subject. When it's clear that when most western people speak of Kung Fu they're talking of that thing that Bruce Lee[^] was famous for doing.

                    Fight Big Government:
                    http://obamacareclassaction.com/
                    http://obamacaretruth.org/

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                    Pete OHanlon
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                    Just because most people know it incorrectly doesn't make it right.

                    "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                    As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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                    • P Pete OHanlon

                      Just because most people know it incorrectly doesn't make it right.

                      "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                      As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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                      Yes and no. Language is a fluid thing.

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                      • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                        Yes and no. Language is a fluid thing.

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                        Pete OHanlon
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                        Chinese especially. It's a wonderful, complex language that combines ideas together to create new ideas but the basic idea doesn't change.

                        "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                        As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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                        • R realJSOP

                          Any physical activity that exceeds the effort to aim a pistol and squeeze a trigger is overrated. I'll give you 5 seconds to run 50 yards to kick my ass, but I'm sure my pistol will still kill you before you can touch me, and I won't even have to drop my beer to do it. (And if you're only 120 pounds - or even a body builder - you'll probably be completely winded before you've managed to run 20 of those yards.) FWIW, if it looks like you might get to me before the end of the five seconds, I'll just cheat and shoot you anyway. It's not that I want to win at all costs - I just don't want to take a chance on dropping my beer.

                          .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                          Jeremy Falcon
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                          5 for the laugh, but in all fairness physical training (including reflex training) does indeed help the odds. Say for instance, since most people don't start a gun fight 100 yards away at high noon anymore, a properly trained person in close proximity can in fact get that gun away from you - breaking your trigger finger in the process - before you even have time to pull the trigger.

                          Jeremy Falcon

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                            Any physical activity that exceeds the effort to aim a pistol and squeeze a trigger is overrated. I'll give you 5 seconds to run 50 yards to kick my ass, but I'm sure my pistol will still kill you before you can touch me, and I won't even have to drop my beer to do it. (And if you're only 120 pounds - or even a body builder - you'll probably be completely winded before you've managed to run 20 of those yards.) FWIW, if it looks like you might get to me before the end of the five seconds, I'll just cheat and shoot you anyway. It's not that I want to win at all costs - I just don't want to take a chance on dropping my beer.

                            .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                            "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                            Nagy Vilmos
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                            Remember Kids - guns and beer are not toys! Leave them to the professionals, we're trained to use them.


                            Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

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                              Remember Kids - guns and beer are not toys! Leave them to the professionals, we're trained to use them.


                              Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

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                              Pete OHanlon
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                              Nagy Vilmos wrote:

                              Leave them to the professionals

                              You called?

                              "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                              As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

                              My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                              • J Jeremy Falcon

                                5 for the laugh, but in all fairness physical training (including reflex training) does indeed help the odds. Say for instance, since most people don't start a gun fight 100 yards away at high noon anymore, a properly trained person in close proximity can in fact get that gun away from you - breaking your trigger finger in the process - before you even have time to pull the trigger.

                                Jeremy Falcon

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                                Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                but in all fairness physical training (including reflex training) does indeed help the odds

                                It's more coordination than anything else. If you drop your beer in the process of shooting someone running at you at full speed, you deserve to have your ass kicked.

                                .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                  Remember Kids - guns and beer are not toys! Leave them to the professionals, we're trained to use them.


                                  Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. or "Drink. Get drunk. Fall over." - P O'H

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                                  When you've proved you can handle beer we'll see. ;P

                                  Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                                  • D devvvy

                                    just a random thought - I think on average Kung Fu don't work, at least for the avg 120 skinny. The body builder with 180lbs of muscle always (well almost) win I think Kung Fu is overrated (no offense and me no exopert), or am i mistaken?

                                    dev

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                                    ragnaroknrol
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                                    I saw my dad demolish a guy roughly twice his size once, a good 6'3" to my dad's 5'6" and probably a good 50lbs on him. "What you going to do about it, shorty?" "I'm going to punch you twice in the ribs, breaking 3 of them at least, knee you in the crotch, then when your hollow head dips down I will punch you in your throat, and shut your mouth with an uppercut that breaks your jaw. After that I am going to take the money for the burrito you stole from my store and leave you on the floor as a sign to everyone about what happens to shoplifters." He didn't lie. Martial arts > muscle. Martial arts + muscle = horrifying results.

                                    If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.

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                                    • P Pete OHanlon

                                      Unlike Americans, here in the UK, we don't measure the size of our penis by the size of our guns. We're secure enough in our manhood not to need to use firearms. Firearms don't make you more virile; it's a Phallusy.

                                      "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                                      As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

                                      My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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                                      Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                                      we don't measure the size of our penis by the size of our guns

                                      I'm not measuring anything, and I'm not questioning anyone's manhood. I'm simply saying that if I'm standing there shooting at someone and they get close enough to be swinging at me with a stick, I'll use that as a learning opportunity and practice more often. Would you feel better if I was using a bow/arrow? BTW, I agree. Guns don't make you more virile, but they do make great equalizers.

                                      .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                                      -----
                                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                      "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                      • R ricmil42

                                        The size of your penis has nothing to do with it. If I could kill someone at 100 yards with my penis, I wouldn't need a gun. :)

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                                        Word up.

                                        .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                        "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                        • R realJSOP

                                          Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                                          we don't measure the size of our penis by the size of our guns

                                          I'm not measuring anything, and I'm not questioning anyone's manhood. I'm simply saying that if I'm standing there shooting at someone and they get close enough to be swinging at me with a stick, I'll use that as a learning opportunity and practice more often. Would you feel better if I was using a bow/arrow? BTW, I agree. Guns don't make you more virile, but they do make great equalizers.

                                          .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                                          -----
                                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                          -----
                                          "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                          Pete OHanlon
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                                          While you're out at the range shooting blanks, I'll be at home firing live ones. ;P

                                          "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                                          As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

                                          My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Onyx

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